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cant cook creole bream posted:Did the Twitter person just not bother to list it, or did Germany manage to avoid that list. I think they are just sorted alphabetically by the names in Russian.
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steinrokkan posted:Third round of peace talks, I guess they are taking the dead guy along https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopRenk1oaQ
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steinrokkan posted:Third round of peace talks, I guess they are taking the dead guy along “I think this belongs to yous” *drops body bag on table
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steinrokkan posted:Third round of peace talks, I guess they are taking the dead guy That would be an interesting negotiation tactic
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steinrokkan posted:Third round of peace talks, I guess they are taking the dead guy along gay picnic defence posted:“I think this belongs to yous” "From Odessa with love" From the discussion of Odessa and it's "mobbed up" status: It occurs to me that I have never realized before how in fact hardcore Ukrainians are, and assumed probably like many that was part of Russia's cultural image. Because holy poo poo this seems like the exact opposite country culturally you ever want to invade.
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Chalks posted:Russia has finally revealed their plan to come back from these sanctions: tweeting the name of each country next to a frowny face emoji. That's not it, that's the implementation of the presidential decrees no 79 and 81 that implemented restrictions on certain transactions with persons and entities from these "unfriendly countries" (specifically, severe restrictions and bans on extending and paying back loans and credit, transactions with securities and immovable property). The first question everyone had was "what the gently caress are the "unfriendly countries", specifically?" Now, a week later, there's finally a list OddObserver posted:I think they are just sorted alphabetically by the names in Russian. This is the correct answer
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Logistics of having Polish Airforce Mi-8/17 (can't really tell them from a pic) flying to around Kiev, and then to Belarus/Ukraine border must be really crazy. Imagine all the heads-up needed so noone accidentally shots it down.
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gay picnic defence posted:This is Russia we’re talking about here. The same superpower sending troops into combat in civilian cars. Ground clearance and weight might be a bit of a problem on some pimped out luxury models, but put in the chains and engage diff locks and you can laugh and point at the Russians while driving from Kyiv to the Belarus border over the fields.
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steinrokkan posted:Third round of peace talks, I guess they are taking the dead guy along I've heard about dead cat strategy but this is taking things a bit far.
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Was it ever clarified what happened to him (how he died) and whether he was actually spying? There were some conflicting reports afterwards.
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Rinkles posted:(how he died) If the picture was indeed him, he was shot in the head.
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gay picnic defence posted:This is Russia we’re talking about here. The same superpower sending troops into combat in civilian cars. Unsure, but I keep seeing retweets about a donation drive that's buying up cheap 4x4 pickups, SUVs and vans in the Baltics and ferrying them to Ukraine for both medical evacuation duties and transformation into technicals apparently. No Hiluxes in the pics, but there are L200s, Pajeros and Rangers. I like the spirit, but it also feels there's a lot of opportunity for grift right now.
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https://twitter.com/garyseconomics/status/1500737852262518788 Well that's not great.
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Cugel the Clever posted:[*]contact your reps — demand of your elected officials support for refugees, aid to the government of Ukraine, a complete crackdown on Russian oligarchs, and advancement of nuclear energy What if your rep is potentially compromised by the Russians after a sham marriage set up by an American expat in a Russian casino that involved a fake crossfit competition back in Florida? Asking for me.
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TulliusCicero posted:If that Kherson airfield attack is remotely true why the gently caress would you move that much aircraft into a hostile warzone and not protect it properly? When the 2014 attack plan clashes with reality. 
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https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1500800443110281217 If those are the publicly stated demands by the Kremlin, their campaign must be going way worse than everyone thought. No longer talking about denazification and demilitarisation is a big loving deal.
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GaussianCopula posted:https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1500800443110281217 Really good news if it isn't some deception. That is so little gain for Russia, maybe a deal is on the table.
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GaussianCopula posted:https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1500800443110281217 https://www.reuters.com/world/kremlin-says-russian-military-action-will-stop-moment-if-ukraine-meets-2022-03-07/
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GaussianCopula posted:https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1500800443110281217 "Ukraine run out of nazis, we go home"
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GaussianCopula posted:If those are the publicly stated demands by the Kremlin, their campaign must be going way worse than everyone thought. Nah this is still a restatement of the demands they've always have, which has always included a 'if you agree to do this yourselves then we won't impose regime change' statement.
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GaussianCopula posted:https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1500800443110281217 Amend the constitution in regards to what exactly?
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If any kind of deal or cease fire is reached, it's a countdown until Ukraine's military is 4x larger than Russia's (after all the aid from the west pours in), even if NATO proper is off the table. That will be a weird timeline.
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theghostpt posted:Amend the constitution in regards to what exactly? The Ukrainian constitution sets joining (either NATO or the EU, I forget) as a goal of the state and also requires a nationwide referendum for any alteration of the borders. The big change from prior demands there is I don't see a demand for regime change or demilitarization.
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theghostpt posted:Amend the constitution in regards to what exactly? The current constitution states that joining EU and NATO as explicits goals for the country. Russia wants those provisions striken (and maybe include neutrality language?, not sure)
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theghostpt posted:Amend the constitution in regards to what exactly? Probably to allow the unilateral secession of Crimea and Donbas. "Not joining any bloc" is a non-starter again though.
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theghostpt posted:Amend the constitution in regards to what exactly? Yeah, that kind of is the important part. With the rest, I am not sure how the majority of Ukrainians feel about giving up Crimea and the Donbass. But I doubt Putin will offer better terms than that unless Ukrainian tanks are rolling through Moscow.
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Alchenar posted:Nah this is still a restatement of the demands they've always have, which has always included a 'if you agree to do this yourselves then we won't impose regime change' statement. I recall Russia demanding demilitarization as well, they didn't need to lose as many lives as they did to amend a constitution to prevent something that was not happening anytime soon. I am also curious if it's meant to prevent EU entry as well, or just NATO.
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Alchenar posted:Nah this is still a restatement of the demands they've always have, which has always included a 'if you agree to do this yourselves then we won't impose regime change' statement. Quote from the article quote:"We really are finishing the demilitarisation of Ukraine. We will finish it. But the main thing is that Ukraine ceases its military action. They should stop their military action and then no one will shoot," he said. How did a Russian-promised ceasefire work out for Ukrainians yesterday? Or the day before?
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GaussianCopula posted:The current constitution states that joining EU and NATO as explicits goals for the country. Russia wants those provisions striken (and maybe include neutrality language?, not sure) There's a potential alternate future universe where Ukraine agrees to neutrality and to Crimea / Donbas etc. in exchange for Russian withdrawal. But I don't think it's this universe because right now it looks like the Ukrainians would rather fight Russian tanks barehanded than submit to force, and the Ukrainians are far from barehanded.
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Trusting the country that just started a war of aggression against you and whose leader doesn't recognize you being an independent state to honor any deal seems ill-advised.
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Fame Douglas posted:Trusting the country that just started a war of aggression against you and whose leader doesn't recognize you being an independent state to honor any deal seems ill-advised. the country that set mines in the humanitarian evacuation corridors
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mobby_6kl posted:Probably to allow the unilateral secession of Crimea and Donbas. "Not joining any bloc" is a non-starter again though. Didn't Zelenskyy offer some sort of neutrality before the war started? Or am I misremembering?
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Concerned Citizen posted:Really good news if it isn't some deception. That is so little gain for Russia, maybe a deal is on the table. It wouldn't have come cheap for Russia, but that would enshrine the Ukrainian territorial losses with no legal recourse down the line, not to mention the forfeiture of any possible war reparations, leaving a ravaged and diminished country constitutionally bound to exist as a neutral buffer zone at the whim of its neighbour's "good will". And with Ukraine's acceptance of the terms, you'd expect most western sanctions to eventually be rolled back.
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coelomate posted:If any kind of deal or cease fire is reached, it's a countdown until Ukraine's military is 4x larger than Russia's (after all the aid from the west pours in), even if NATO proper is off the table. Yeah Ukraine will become one of the most heavily militarized states in the world. Also I personally feel recognizing Crimea as Russian and the "breakaway republics" as indeoedent is s no-go as those are also rightfully Ukraine and an illegal occupation, but Ukraine has a right to make that choive for themselves. The "you can't belong to any bloc" though is a complete violation of sovereignty and Russia can go gently caress itself trying to tell other countries what agreements they can be in, especially with this clownshoes military.
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Fame Douglas posted:Trusting the country that just started a war of aggression against you and whose leader doesn't recognize you being an independent state to honor any deal seems ill-advised. The alternative to a peace deal is mass death from urban fighting in Kyiv and generational destruction for Ukraine. You guys basically want to reject literally any peace deal. Russia isn't going home empty-handed, they just offered a deal that leaves Ukraine in basically the exact same spot it was in prior to the war. This is a good thing.
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Also regarding Ukrainian claims of destroying 30 helicopers at the Kherson airport - an independent source verifies that there were 49 helicopters on site so that number isn't out of the question. https://twitter.com/konrad_muzyka/status/1500796501886476290?s=20&t=TrEN7A1DtDWo7YH8MFAMUQ Rochan Consulting: quote:Rochan Consulting provides unparalleled depth and breadth of regional expertise in wargaming, open source intelligence, conflict reporting and analysis, the global defence and national security markets.
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theghostpt posted:Amend the constitution in regards to what exactly? Probably getting rid of the incredibly dumb amendments that require Ukraine to apply for EU and NATO membership by 2023. quote:The "you can't belong to any bloc" though is a complete violation of sovereignty and Russia can go gently caress itself trying to tell other countries what agreements they can be in, especially with this clownshoes military.
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Oh man, this guy and that meme format. https://twitter.com/uamemesforces/status/1500553922829824000
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