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Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Cpt_Obvious posted:

I know I'm late to the "are humans innately evil" discussion, but if you've ever had kids I dunno how you can possibly hold that position. When a child is born, it literally doesn't even know how to eat or poo poo. A baby literally must learn how to suck titties and poop.

Kids are little sociopaths once they figure out enough body contro to do some damage though

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Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

Mr. Lobe posted:

Kids are little sociopaths once they figure out enough body contro to do some damage though

that's still not really human nature because you don't really develop the brain structure to be able to feel empathy until after 2 or so

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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Pentecoastal Elites posted:

that's still not really human nature because you don't really develop the brain structure to be able to feel empathy until after 25 or so

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
The dialectical of cooperation and competition something something

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

oh wait I didn't notice until now the OP was a racist troop trying to justify himself lol

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
there used to be these god awful beer commercials with a stupid song that went 🎵real men of genius🎵 followed by a spoken word parodic radio voice today we salute you, real men of genius and every time i see this thread now i read the title as 🎵strong men of color🎵

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

mycomancy posted:

It's Original Sin dogma repackaged for a secular capitalist world, OP.

and it serves the same purpose, to describe why what is is the best possible world

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

GalacticAcid posted:

there used to be these god awful beer commercials with a stupid song that went 🎵real men of genius🎵 followed by a spoken word parodic radio voice today we salute you, real men of genius and every time i see this thread now i read the title as 🎵strong men of color🎵

Ugh I remember those. Pre-9/11 they would actually sing "Real American Herooooooes!" and of course that poo poo got changed.

I heard those ads multiple times an hour for hours at a time when I was working in radio. Ugh

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
lmao

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC0Om8v8H7g

:rip:

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy


lmao

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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Stalin won WW2

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

tokin opposition posted:

Stalin won WW2

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



Stalin IS a strong man of color.

https://twitter.com/vijayprashad/status/1500145276413263876

PERPETUAL IDIOT
Sep 12, 2003

cenotaph posted:

Stalin IS a strong man of color.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N4wrrxgaWU

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

lol

https://twitter.com/stukhov/status/1500950829712363523?s=21

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012


The DSA communism understander

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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Communism is when u vote 4 Joe Biden op

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
People’s War in Ukraine :china:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SethGJones/status/1500626335970037765

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world
i mean do we think the russian and ukrainian soldiers collectively mutinying and combining into a pan-slavic people's army is a realistic solution to the conflict at this time

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
I can believe a lot of stupid things op

Lasting Damage
Feb 26, 2006

Fallen Rib

Ferrinus posted:

i mean do we think the russian and ukrainian soldiers collectively mutinying and combining into a pan-slavic people's army is a realistic solution to the conflict at this time

surely the more bizarre thing is the insistence there is no precedent?

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

dead gay comedy forums posted:

gradenko if you are enjoying that one, Karl Polanyi's The Great Transformation is going to be one hell of a read, you gonna love it

in fact that book is quite the loving answer to "humans are naturally assholes"

it's been a trend in history recently to emphasize that people are different over space and time. conceptions of every category you can think of differ and showing that change has been a project of a lot of historians, mainly because it's easy to do. continuity is harder.

all of that is to say that alternative development and shaping or societies is everywhere if you look for it, but a lot of it has been strangled and flattened over the past few hundred years of capitalism.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Ferrinus posted:

i mean do we think the russian and ukrainian soldiers collectively mutinying and combining into a pan-slavic people's army is a realistic solution to the conflict at this time

absolutely not lmao

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!

Ferrinus posted:

i mean do we think the russian and ukrainian soldiers collectively mutinying and combining into a pan-slavic people's army is a realistic solution to the conflict at this time

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
in a just world, we'd already have gotten the united socialist slavic republics in 1948, spanning from trieste to tokyo

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ferrinus posted:

i mean do we think the russian and ukrainian soldiers collectively mutinying and combining into a pan-slavic people's army is a realistic solution to the conflict at this time

Why not? Say something loud enough and often enough and reality will bend towards it given time.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Gene Hackman Fan posted:

Why not? Say something loud enough and often enough and reality will bend towards it given time.

there should be a word for this belief in the power of belief. beliefism? ideasism? we'll come up with something.

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Doc Hawkins posted:

there should be a word for this belief in the power of belief. beliefism? ideasism? we'll come up with something.

Pretty sure it's usually called gaslighting but I don't know if there's a term when it's done on a systemic scale.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Gaslighting used to have a useful definition and now it means whatever people want it to.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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Gene Hackman Fan posted:

Pretty sure it's usually called gaslighting but I don't know if there's a term when it's done on a systemic scale.

it's still gaslighting, words mean nothing op

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

tokin opposition posted:

it's still gaslighting, words mean nothing op

this is gaslighting

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

V. Illych L. posted:

this is gaslighting

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

GalacticAcid posted:

Gaslighting used to have a useful definition and now it means whatever people want it to.

it still means what it means, there's just a lot of people misusing it as a synonym for "lying"

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Spergin Morlock posted:

it still means what it means, there's just a lot of people misusing it as a synonym for "lying"

no they don't.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

no they don't.

now THIS is an excellent example of gaslighting lol

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

no they don't.

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i mean, yeah, there's making ad populum arguments and all but you have to keep in mind the average american is just what the ruling class wants. While the internet has enabled an unprecedented access to information the likes of which unseen since perhaps the printing press, it's also meant a much lower barrier to entry -- the wheat as well as the chaff is aimed full-bore at your brain like a firehose blasting a teacup.

Gene Hackman Fan has issued a correction as of 21:09 on Mar 8, 2022

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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Gene Hackman Fan posted:

i mean, yeah, there's ad populum and all, but the bigger the chorus the louder the tune.

gonna ad hominem your use of ad populum you loving nerd

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Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

tokin opposition posted:

gonna ad hominem your use of ad populum you loving nerd

it ain't ad hominem if it's the truth.

i am a loving nerd.

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