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KitConstantine posted:Ooof Russia struck a maternity hospital right before father negotiations. That looks really bad. The whole world is pissed! Better just sweep this under the rug and move o... their followup is to claim the whole ward was taken over by the azov battalion which is why they needed crisis actors i guess they've noticed the part of their propaganda that gets parroted most by tankies
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KitConstantine posted:Ooof Russia struck a maternity hospital right before father negotiations. That looks really bad. The whole world is pissed! Better just sweep this under the rug and move o... What the hell, they're digging in deeper in the replies: https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/1501919224201158656
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It is really striking how much the propaganda resembles a lot of the more out there far-right/conspiracy stuff we've been dealing with one the last number of years
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cinci zoo sniper posted:U.K. is saying they’ll eventually ban it - same as their other sanctions, with plenty of room for Londongrad residents to salvage anything of relevance. It's depressing as gently caress living in this country, because the lying and corruption from the government has become utterly shameless, but they keep getting away with it because "80 seat majority and another two years to an election, what the gently caress are you gonna do about it, huh?" [burns £50 note in front of homeless person] The invasion of Ukraine has actually been a massive help for Johnson, because it's swept the ongoing sleaze and lies of the massive covid fraud by chums of Tory politicians and Partygate (and the fact that we have a PM who's under police investigation for it) completely off the front pages.
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Bank for international settlements told Russia to gently caress off - this sounds big, but how big is it? https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1501931631740915715?t=D2GINEHO15qTiGT6m9z5uA&s=19 News link: https://www-trthaber-com.translate....=tr&_x_tr_tl=en
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William Bear posted:What the hell, they're digging in deeper in the replies: Its amazing Twitter allows Russia to blast this stuff still.
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KitConstantine posted:Bank for international settlements told Russia to gently caress off - this sounds big, but how big is it? That's pretty big. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_for_International_Settlements Basically Russia is going to have even more problems doing international monetary transactions. More importantly, countries that have not fully sanctioned Russia are going to have problems moving assets around too.
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Alctel posted:It is really striking how much the propaganda resembles a lot of the more out there far-right/conspiracy stuff we've been dealing with one the last number of years I'm sure its a pure coincidence!
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Wibla posted:Ukrainian farmers and their tractors are perfecting the art of tactical procurement of armored vehicles Not the usual Iron Harvest... but it's honest work.   
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Payndz posted:As with literally everything else Johnson and the Tories say, it's deliberate misrepresentation at best and (most often) an outright lie that the media is generally unwilling to call them on. The Good Law Project cross-checked the list of Russian oligarchs facing sanctions with those who'd made donations to the Tory party, and surprise! There was zero crossover! Remember way before this conflict kicked off and I think it was the US was briefing that in the event of Russian hostilities, they couldn't rely on the UK because of how in the pocket of Russian money London is lol.
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Lol Russia managed to turn the Russian partisans in Ukraine, even the oligarchs, against them so completely that some who have been running from justice for years are asking to come back so they can fight. https://twitter.com/darelasn/status/1501936052226854919?t=8wFvVZFEowFxRl4nciCfuw&s=19 https://twitter.com/darelasn/status/1501936065250136077?t=ibhoBN1rN4W9xHFP7G7ngg&s=19
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ShadowHawk posted:The US is a net oil exporter so this doesn't really have a huge impact by itself - are other countries banning Russian oil too? No. Europe is completely against the idea and the White House wanted to keep a united front but dems in congress wanted to look like they’re doing something and republicans want to flamboyantly switch sides now that ukraines the good guy/use the opportunity to kick the pro-Russia faction out of the party
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KitConstantine posted:Lol Russia managed to turn the Russian partisans in Ukraine, even the oligarchs, against them so completely that some who have been running from justice for years are asking to come back so they can fight. I'm not surprised seeing Akhmetov there. His club Shaktar Donetsk has suffered big time during the Crimea War already, this is just another stress added into his baby. And if there's anything Ukranians love more than money, it's football.
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Putin approved taking control of all the assets of businesses that have left Russia https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1501935937982373904?t=1oJuU-FReRL8U9lq4crymg&s=19 Rest of thread: It would be these organizations’ job to “repackage” seized businesses into new entities and then sell them at public auction. If no suitable buyer can be found, the state itself would act as the buyer. It’s going to be an absolute bonanza for corruption.
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KitConstantine posted:Putin approved taking control of all the assets of businesses that have left Russia Yeah these guys are just going to piecemeal this out to their buddies. This will likely leave Russia worse off than before these companies left.
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CommieGIR posted:Its amazing Twitter allows Russia to blast this stuff still. Reported them for targeted harassment or something like that.
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Deteriorata posted:Russia needs to get their poo poo together in the next week or so or they will effectively lose their ability to fight offensively. Their losses are quite unsustainable. Meanwhile we don't have a clue about Ukraine's losses and how long they are sustainable.
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If we all just replied "Kill yourself" to every Russian government tweet, do you think anyone would? Like if it was just a flood of it? Twitter should make an exception and allow it as an experiment. KitConstantine posted:Putin approved taking control of all the assets of businesses that have left Russia Gifts for Putin's most loyal retainers. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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CSM posted:That seems extreme wishful thinking, there's always more Russian troops and vehicles to throw in the meatgrinder. They couldn't maintain frontline vehicles, any vehicles brought forward now are likely from long term storage depot and will likely be in a worse state.
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CSM posted:That seems extreme wishful thinking, there's always more Russian troops and vehicles to throw in the meatgrinder. Very very true. We are seeing Ukrainian propaganda and we are eating it up. We see all the Russian losses, but we are not seeing the Ukrainian nearly as much. We have no idea how battered the Ukrainians are. But we can make some educated guesses. We see drone strikes on columns. Why are we not seeing artillery follow ups on those columns? Surely they would want to show that.
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Odesa is less hard hit than other cities, though bombing has been ramping up in recent days. Reports from Odesa: https://twitter.com/wleaming/status/1501934783701475343?t=lCTBgWacUM4mgbDRDcES0Q&s=19 https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1501904664127852545?t=RhacAHfp2LUlaen0lcCREg&s=19 A reference to their gangster-looking mayor and roots? https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1501813604034744321?t=ma3NX6ztJQ6_5wBE68mmEQ&s=19
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Cimber posted:Very very true. We are seeing Ukrainian propaganda and we are eating it up. We see all the Russian losses, but we are not seeing the Ukrainian nearly as much. We have no idea how battered the Ukrainians are. Because its good opsec: Showing destroyed Ukrainian units gives the Russia information on tracking where they need to hit. Yes, it results in somewhat of an echo chamber, but its neccessary to deny Russia that information if at all possible.
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CommieGIR posted:Its amazing Twitter allows Russia to blast this stuff still. Facebook allows it too - all sort of straight up bullshit on the various pages for the Russian Embassies around the world. The embassies in Netherlands and Ireland has turned off their comments. But feel free to harass the poo poo out of the others and report all their bullshit to FB en mass.
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Cimber posted:Very very true. We are seeing Ukrainian propaganda and we are eating it up. We see all the Russian losses, but we are not seeing the Ukrainian nearly as much. We have no idea how battered the Ukrainians are. Rasputitsa applies to all so i guess moving artillery only on contested roads might be problematic (i'm no general).
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Nice little thread about Russian elites: https://twitter.com/pevchikh/status/1501878715709632518
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If these last few weeks show anything, I'd say the current NATO GDP spending is probably much more than needed. Why are we spending so much money on defense against a country that is obviously incredibly bad at waging war.
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One green corridor that will likely be honored: the one offered by the Mykolayiv governor to Russian troops: https://twitter.com/TarasKuzio/status/1501941234335506438?t=YVlI28ieZyQZBTlO2nV7xg&s=19 Article: https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2022/03/10/7330094/ quote:Kim's direct speech : "I would like to address the Russian occupiers. We give a chance in any case. We know - they stand there on border of Kherson and the Nikolaev area, talk to ours. What is a problem at Russians? They don't want to attack, but also back they can't return, because they were told from the other side - from Kherson - that they will be shot during the retreat, and here they are in the villages, standing next to the villages - and neither here nor there. The article has a link to the Telegram video of his speech. Cool socks guy is hardcore
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fnox posted:That's...13 Republicans including some of the most far right ones, and 2 progressive democrats. Really bizarre to see. KitConstantine posted:Putin approved taking control of all the assets of businesses that have left Russia
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KitConstantine posted:One green corridor that will likely be honored: the one offered by the Mykolayiv governor to Russian troops: Annoying they are still repeating the "No POW for Artillery guys", its not a good look.
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CSM posted:That seems extreme wishful thinking, there's always more Russian troops and vehicles to throw in the meatgrinder. Russia has what, 120 BTGs deployed in and around Ukraine? That's essentially over 70% of what was supposed to be their highest readiness troops with their best equipment. With the amount of breakdowns and equipment issues seen so far with what is supposedly their most modern and well maintained units what state do you think some random conscript battalion with hand me down equipment is going to be in? Don't get me wrong Russia still has a bunch of poo poo they can throw at Ukraine but Russia isn't the Soviet Union and the Russian Army isn't the Red Army and neither have nearly the same resources the latter could throw at things.
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KitConstantine posted:Screenshot because the retweet is of a column of Russian armor getting smoked by airstrikes - it looks like the northeast offensive push in Kyiv is not doing so hot https://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/The-War-in-Ukraine/091194 Was the killing of the commander enough for them to poo poo themselves?
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Captain Kosmos posted:This shows that they are retreating. All the other red arrows going to Kyiv have also disappeared. possibly that and big armor loss and casualties.
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Mikojan posted:If these last few weeks show anything, I'd say the current NATO GDP spending is probably much more than needed. Why are we spending so much money on defense against a country that is obviously incredibly bad at waging war. "Here is a thing that is working at its intended purpose perfectly. We should dismantle it." That's some broken thinking, yes, lets reinforce success at the peak of it's usefulness by defunding it.
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Captain Kosmos posted:This shows that they are retreating. All the other red arrows going to Kyiv have also disappeared. The map says retreated, repulsed is probably a better word. Seems the author is Finnish and thus doesn't have English as their first language.
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Mikojan posted:If these last few weeks show anything, I'd say the current NATO GDP spending is probably much more than needed. Why are we spending so much money on defense against a country that is obviously incredibly bad at waging war. Because it's a proxy war and the NATO assets can't actually engage. I can't judge the spending, but you'll notice that Russia has engaged a non-NATO country rather than some of the NATO members it has territorial aspirations about. So in a way, that money is kind of doing its job...
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Murgos posted:"Here is a thing that is working at its intended purpose perfectly. We should dismantle it." That's some broken thinking, yes, lets reinforce success at the peak of it's usefulness by defunding it.
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CommieGIR posted:Yeah its like 300k barrels a year, out of 7.5 million we import. A drop in the bucket effectively. It's complicated, but we actively were producing a gently caress ton of oil during the height of fracking, it was a wild west and the wells were profitable as gently caress over 70 dollars a barrel. The saudis decided to dump prices to 30 a barrel which is what cratered the oil market. Things were ramping back up and covid dunked it again. Fracking will and likely is already on an upswing again. The issue is getting the initial funding to reopen wells, but it will open up, the issue will be if we have the capacity to make alot of the equipment right now, and much of that equipment is actually american made (I actually made a set of parts for Hyperion that were providers of haliburton weekly at my last job before going into the hospital, and it was parts that would never be outsourced due to complexity, material and patent protection.) Getting the machine shops and the pipe manufactories up and running will be the bottleneck.
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