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It always surprises people when I tell them none of my degrees are in engineering. The only reason I'm an "engineer" is because my second CO made me ELECTRO and I've been in engineering ever since. Also, as Mr. Nice! said, I have practical experience that probably influences those decisions too. I don't necessarily mind it, but the way things are going, few and fewer people are going to be eligible to be CHENGs, and some recent decisions from PERS have made the job even less enticing for JOs. Edit: Oh god no. Don't bring that bad luck on me, Mr. Nice! Please just let me get this through tour first.
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It’ll always boggle my mind that the navy doesn’t have separate streams for engineering and deck officers. And I say this as a guy who went through merchant marine deck officer school fully cognizant of how much loving harder the engineering coursework was. Thermodynamics? Yeah cool I’ll be over there doing spherical trig.
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Mar 10, 2022 19:34
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The Valley Stared posted:It always surprises people when I tell them none of my degrees are in engineering. The only reason I'm an "engineer" is because my second CO made me ELECTRO and I've been in engineering ever since.  As someone who spent most of their working life on drill ships and ocean going oil rigs I simply cannot get my head round this at all. All the chief engineers I worked with had basically started from cadet and worked up for about 20 years. This is no way dissing you, I have read these threads long enough to know what you have done over the years, but how does it work in reality? Like how can you be standing watch one ship then being expected to pull apart gas turbines the next?
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Mar 10, 2022 19:44
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Burt posted:
Engineering officers on navy ships aren't tearing engines apart themselves. She's supervising the entire engineroom and running that half of the ship in case of disaster. Any specialized work is going to be done by contractors or the people who own the engines the ships are leasing. That isn't to say that she won't certainly be involved with basically everything that's broken everywhere, but she isn't in that job because she's an actual engineer. none of those people are on ships as a part of the crew.
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Mar 10, 2022 19:46
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The Valley Stared posted:Oh no. Still dumb enough to stay in. Just got an Ord-Mod regarding how long I'll be staying on my next ship too. On the one hand, Rota! On the other hand, several years as a CHENG. If it works for you, that's all that matters. And as Mr Nice pointed out, you still being in will probably be a huge plus for Sailors and JOs that end up working for you. I'm pretty comfortable saying the Navy is better off having you in it.
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Mar 10, 2022 19:49
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Mr. Nice! posted:Engineering officers on navy ships aren't tearing engines apart themselves. She's supervising the entire engineroom and running that half of the ship in case of disaster. Ah that makes a lot of sense! Thanks for that.
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Mar 10, 2022 19:50
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Also warships are packed with people compared to just about anything short of a cruise ship, and there still isn't enough manpower. Most of those are enlisted idiots who are specialized in one field or another, or will become specialized at some point in their career once they start developing useful skills. In the meantime there is always something to be painted or something that needs to be carried around.
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Mar 10, 2022 20:00
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A.o.D. posted:Battleship New Jersey still has doors that pass those tests. Wtf?! To be fair the New Jersey probably didn’t try to gently caress a reef in Hawaii.
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Mar 10, 2022 20:58
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vulturesrow posted:Oh hai guys, long time no post. Hope none of you are still dumb enough to be in (says the lifer). Can confirm being a civilian is still great, 4 years into it.  (52 days, job offer in hand)
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Mar 10, 2022 21:02
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I've got 6 guys to keep the engines turning. I'm also starting to get weekly calls for 1st jobs cause the number of people capable of making a 40 year old ship run is extremely limited. $1500/day, pension, medical, MPB + Feinberg, etc. Haven't even had to put in effort since I'm always following up incompetence, which makes it easy since the expectation was already "Just get the vessel home from China and you're good".
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Mar 10, 2022 22:44
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Well, got my verbals for my shore tour, managed to snag my #1, an instructor slot at the FRS teaching Tritons, so back to Jax in August.  Best part is, my buddy/ roomate whose been stuck with me our whole time in the Navy (we swore in at the same NRD, did OCS, flight school and the FRS together and got the same squadron) is also going to the FRS to teach P-8s. 
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Mar 11, 2022 07:22
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FrozenVent posted:It’ll always boggle my mind that the navy doesn’t have separate streams for engineering and deck officers. The Navy seems hellbent on doing things the hard, inconvenient and personnel-hostile way 
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Mar 11, 2022 07:30
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Wibla posted:The Navy seems hellbent on doing things the hard, inconvenient and personnel-hostile way Tradition.
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ded posted:Tradition. 
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vulturesrow posted:Oh hai guys, long time no post. Hope none of you are still dumb enough to be in (says the lifer). Can confirm being a civilian is still great, 4 years into it. I have been out for 18 years and sometimes i wish i was back in??
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Mar 11, 2022 09:09
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titties posted:I have been out for 18 years and sometimes i wish i was back in?? I miss being on the flight deck during flight ops. The thrill and loving around with buddies was some of the best experiences of my life. But that’s about it and being a civilian definitely out ways that one thing.
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Mar 11, 2022 10:28
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Well, got my verbals for my shore tour, managed to snag my #1, an instructor slot at the FRS teaching Tritons, so back to Jax in August. Congrats. Enjoy that golden path!
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Mar 11, 2022 12:46
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Well, got my verbals for my shore tour, managed to snag my #1, an instructor slot at the FRS teaching Tritons, so back to Jax in August. how are you an instructor you're been in like, four days...oh my god is time moving that fast? :| nice work getting that slot though, should be pretty fun 
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Mar 11, 2022 18:29
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That was 2017 
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Congrats Jimmy, welcome back to the craziest place I've ever been, and I grew up in Nola. Well have to grab a beer some time.
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Thanks guys! I'm still amazed I got this opportunity, super pumped to be learning a new platform! M_Gargantua posted:That was 2017 Times flying that's for sure, I still feel like I just checked in, but I'm now one of the senior JOs, it feels really weird. Thronde posted:Congrats Jimmy, welcome back to the craziest place I've ever been, and I grew up in Nola. Well have to grab a beer some time. Oh absolutely! Can't wait to see if Jax added more stops to the Ale Trail!
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Mar 12, 2022 18:34
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you'll never stop being a JO hope this helps that goes for every Sailor past and present
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:It’s just Ukraine. Not “The Ukraine”. I’m cycling back to this because over the past few days I’ve been watching CNN and they’ve been saying The Ukraine on a pretty regular basis. Wolf blitzer also said it multiple times. It’s definitely the way some people speak and not intended as a slight against the country. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Thanks guys! I'm still amazed I got this opportunity, super pumped to be learning a new platform! Welcome back to Jax and enjoy frs.
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Thanks guys! I'm still amazed I got this opportunity, super pumped to be learning a new platform! Dahlias Pour House closed sadly. Not sure about others since COVID, it hit a lot of smaller businesses hard. But there is a badass arvade/bar on king now, and Kickbacks is always good for beer choices. Murray Hill has some decent food and brew spots now too. Town center is like twice the size it was pre-Rona it seems.
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Mar 13, 2022 18:27
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JAX has the Officers Club right outside base too!
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Crab Dad posted:JAX has the Officers Club right outside base too! You mean Mayport or is there another one by NAS?
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King of Bees posted:You mean Mayport or is there another one by NAS? Oh my bad! Only went to Mayport.
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I'm looking for my next orders as well, I've been told I have a spot at the new MQ-25 squadron if I want it. And maybe even if I don't, our commodore seemed really excited to get me in there. Seems like a cool gig, albeit based in Pax River.  The El Centro Air Show was pretty nuts. Not a very big aircraft showing, but tons of people. We were the centerpiece of the static displays (and a welcome source of shade for people to park their chairs under). Blue Angels show was cool; one of the diamond jets went down in the line so it was a 3-plane formation, but they adapted very well.
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Atlantic beach is great, used to just get a bottle of wine and get smashed with tinder dates on the beach at night
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Wingnut Ninja posted:I'm looking for my next orders as well, I've been told I have a spot at the new MQ-25 squadron if I want it. And maybe even if I don't, our commodore seemed really excited to get me in there. Seems like a cool gig, albeit based in Pax River. Would you actually have aircraft?
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Red Crown posted:Would you actually have aircraft? A few, but the virtue of UAV's is you don't need a lot of airframes for operator training, especially on the tactical side. Simulators will probably be a real hoot to get up and running though.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:I'm looking for my next orders as well, I've been told I have a spot at the new MQ-25 squadron if I want it. And maybe even if I don't, our commodore seemed really excited to get me in there. Seems like a cool gig, albeit based in Pax River. What's the billet?
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vulturesrow posted:What's the billet? Don't know the details yet, it was just a quick heads up. Something involving syllabus development and training.
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https://twitter.com/LeeHudson_/status/1504511053039874050?t=pW2aeLlB4GWU-WswDf2uxw&s=19 What a dumb period post-9/11 was when we thought we'd never deal with peer or near peer again
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At least y'all are getting some decent frigates soon, right? 
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Wibla posted:At least y'all are getting some decent frigates soon, right? Define soon and define decent. The preproduction meetings I've been in don't give me a ton of hope. ALTHOUGH switching from cfe to mostly gfe program of record type stuff is a great change. I mean the engines won't constantly fall apart. Probably.
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They'll lay down a displacement and what senors and weapons they want. After 10 years they'll come up with something twice as large and with 4 times the sensors and weapons, they'll authorize one to be built and then cancel it. Then the process starts over.
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Woo found some AT orders to fleet week NYC!
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https://jobs.smartrecruiters.com/CityAndCountyOfSanFrancisco1/743999810118794-h110-marine-engineer-of-fire-boats Doesn't even require an unlimited, just some Cummins and some big rear end fire pumps so not like there's a lot to know.
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