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First time I listened to that new Boy Harsher track, I was like, “it’s fine.” But I keep getting it in my head and can’t listen to it enough. Good stuff!
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thotsky posted:Even with a poppy chorus Boy Harsher is the darkwave/ebm equivalent of edging with no finish. It's a good sound but it never goes anywhere. Nah they do great played "Lust" for nine hours on loop flying back from Canada coupla years ago while reading the J.G. Ballard interview book, for added industrial edit: I mean "Machina" is cheesy fun Italo revival and fundamentally lightweight, but they have a ton of stuff that does great divabot fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Jan 17, 2022 |
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Never been crazy about Stabbing Westward vocals. The music is cool. https://stabbingwestward.bandcamp.com/track/ghost-assemblage-23-remix
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The Project Pitchfork show in Berlin this month was postponed to August 13, so there's a good chance I can still make it. edit: poop. And my local Gary Numan show is just full on cancelled. teethgrinder fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Feb 2, 2022 |
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teethgrinder posted:
Mine got pushed from Nov to March. I'm hoping it stays, but my local gov decided covids over and venues no longer need to require vax/neg test. Sorry for your loss. G.N rules live.
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He rules period. I saw him at the same venue on the Splintered tour like five years ago or so... But I was so feverish I had to leave after 2.5 songs, and now I feel like a complete loving rear end in a top hat for having attended at all.
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The new Birthday Massacre is pretty good.
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I have recently discovered that I love manchego and a bottle of wine. being lactose intolerant is really making some of these lifestyle choices difficult
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Key just posted an update to social media essentially confirming some suspicions in the fan base that they are most definitely NOT playing those European festival dates (Hellfest and Sinnerfest). He does leave it on a somewhat positive note, as I fully expected it to end with a "thanks for the memories, we're out" statement.
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He does use the phrase 'final shows' so it sounds they're done after whatever they end up doing in 2023. Massive mega-bummer in my book, but I guess maybe doing something like Skinny Puppy starts to make less sense when you're almost 60.... Though it does kinda freak me out nonetheless, because a lot of artists I enjoy are getting to be about that old....
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Yeah. I always assumed we might get ONE more farewell tour from those two and then they would call it a day. Key will continue to churn out bleepity bloops and Ogilvie probably has one more album with Walk in him maybe? I don't know. As you mentioned, Ogre turns 60 in December and those live tours take a toll on the body for sure.
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cEvin is 61 and had a cancer scare in 2016 so I don’t blame him for taking it easy.
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I caught Plack Blague live the other day (they were supporting Adult., along with Red Meat) and they put on a great live show. Ignoring the two year pandemic gap, they're one of the most fun scene live acts I've seen in a fair while. Wasn't exactly a busy show, but just absolutely killed it, so fun. If you really don't want to see a dude's butt though, YMMV on that because There Will Be Butt
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man prick is so good. he didn't get super super famous because he looks like weird al, right?
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The Voice of Labor posted:man prick is so good. he didn't get super super famous because he looks like weird al, right? It's a really good album but it only had one minor hit, and then they just fell off the map entirely. They opened for NIN and David Bowie which is a bit of a poo poo gig because you're guaranteed to look like poo poo compared to that lineup. They made another album but it was mailorder only. Maybe they got dropped by the label. A lot of bands that were on Nothing seemed to have not really gone anywhere. I remember someone saying that if you weren't NIN or Marilyn Manson you weren't a priority for the record company.
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TOOT BOOT posted:It's a really good album but it only had one minor hit, and then they just fell off the map entirely. They opened for NIN and David Bowie which is a bit of a poo poo gig because you're guaranteed to look like poo poo compared to that lineup. They made another album but it was mailorder only. Maybe they got dropped by the label. They weren’t dropped exactly but were unable to secure a release date for the next album, so there was a legal dispute that ended up with Prickster having the songs but no label to release them on, so that’s why he went mail order with the next one. I also always thought that Animal was a pretty sick song but it maybe didn’t need the bit where he eats out(?) the woman(??) backed by Quake grunts edit: like I listen to lots of extreme stuff and I get it, but this is a very fun, catchy song… until you hear the sounds of someone slurping(?) an ogress(???) PinkoBastard fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Mar 12, 2022 |
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I don't get why people are down on Tin Omen. It's a Ministry tune in the style of their best work, with probably the best vocals and lyrics Skinny Puppy ever did on top.
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no wait, wrong date
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thotsky posted:I don't get why people are down on Tin Omen. It's a Ministry tune in the style of their best work, with probably the best vocals and lyrics Skinny Puppy ever did on top. It's not one of my favorite Puppy albums, but Tin Omen is a roaring track - I didn't know this was a thing.
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It was one of the first Puppy albums I truly got into back in High School. I had already drifted out of a comfort zone of Depeche Mode, The Smiths, New Order, and the Cure into things like Ministry's Land of Rape and Honey and Mind ... when a buddy from Journalism class let me borrow that record. It was so drat dense, but "Worlock" melted my seventeen year old brain. I'll always have a special place for it. "Rivers" and "Choralone" are top tier deep cuts.The Voice of Labor posted:it's going up against devo's automodown for lyrical subject matter which is an uphill battle Rabies may be the last time they got really specific in terms of poltics? TDP has more general condemnations of the environment, and Last Rights is its own personal hell. The post-reunion stuff has lyrics that are not even in the same ball park. But this is the Electro-Industrial thread. Are we supposed to assess lyrical content? hatelull fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Mar 13, 2022 |
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I tend to think of industrial as being inherently political music. "the fool does everything backwards so that, by juxtaposition, what is lasting and objective is revealed in contrast with what is subjective, indifferent and ephemeral" that p' much seems to describe throbbing gristle's musical transgressions, einstürzende neubauten's musical deconstruction, the not always ironic obsession with fascism in the genre, and sharkbait's dr. demento grade lyrics over scrapyard poundings. can't say I really pay close attention the lyrics on the post goettel/ogilvie puppy albums, but I would imagine an album titled the greater wrong of the right has some political content. the video for criminal age certainly does
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I was only being half sarcastic. I absolutely pay attention to lyrical content, especially for bands I adore like Puppy. Post Goettel, it gets even more abstract but he still pulls out some good lines.
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The Voice of Labor posted:I tend to think of industrial as being inherently political music. edit: "worst I've ever encountered" -- for a band that espouses the exact opposite values
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eternal september and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
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teethgrinder posted:The Facebook Skinny Puppy community is literally the worst I've ever encountered. Overrun with alt-right fascists. It's so bizarre. For real. I follow it for the random helpful updates from the band, but if it’s not “WHAT’S YOUR FAVORITE PUPPY TRACK” or “LOL NIN SUX” garbage it’s a lot of sketch opinions. It got even worse after Putin started to act out.
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teethgrinder posted:The Facebook Skinny Puppy community is literally the worst I've ever encountered. Overrun with alt-right fascists. It's so bizarre. for some reason, the same happens in the ministry and kmfdm groups, which is still loving hilarious to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTkywyKV-9U
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Yeah the latest Ministry album got some negative reviews from people for being political in a way they didn't like. I don't think these people were very perceptive if they thought Al was on their side this whole time. Imagine that, the guy that wrote a trilogy of albums to poo poo on GWB is left-wing, who knew?
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Future Days posted:for some reason, the same happens in the ministry and kmfdm groups, which is still loving hilarious to me Never was a fan of Ministry but I like their political stance
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jeeves, is boyd rice a real nazi or an ironic nazi?
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It's understandable, that's just where the counter culture went the last 15 years. Feels like we're seeing a larger variety of expression these days tho.
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I feel like most of the 00s and 10s, artists that formed part of or were popular in the euro goth/industrial scene were generally thoroughly disengaged with political themes other than a broad and non-specific "gently caress the government!" or "gently caress the establishment!" slogan shouted from the stage occasionally by someone with a comfortable IT job wearing tactical gear. There were a few notable exceptions but mostly it came down to some occasional fist in the air slogans that were often fairly non-specific. Like, in interviews artists would say "oh yeah our music is super political" or talk about their own political engagement but it wasn't borne out in the imagery, lyrics or much else. And then the artists and fans getting older has probably just increased that rightward drift. I think there was a comfortable and deliberately false 'industrial as a genre is anti-establishment and left wing' thing carried forward from the very early days which artists who weren't either of those were happy to wrap around themselves as they made aggrotech tracks glorifying war and celebrating misogyny. Feel like it's changing now with younger and more diverse artists and fans engaged with the scene and more overtly political artists and labels over the last five or so years, as well as less tolerance for artists/fans with lovely views from those who don't hold those views themselves. Obviously, I'm not saying all industrial music should be political, or that modern industrial as a genre is a radical act in itself - but it's nice to see that aspect in resurgence as a part of the genre particularly given all that's going on in the world. Edit: for me, the point where I realised I wanted this in the scene was when I thought about some of the more dubious neofolk/martial industrial artists that were or had been around scene events, the scene names who had either knowingly or unknowingly had links to the far right or shared their ideologies and the general complete lack of open anti-fascist sentiments during the 00s and early 10s. In the main, the only anti-fascist sentiment you'd hear was from Die Krupps, basically. If the far right are encroaching and no one in your scene is saying anything, then your scene has a problem. Different now to a degree, thankfully. Danger - Octopus! fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Mar 14, 2022 |
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 To avoid confusion, I would simply write "Don't be blind. This is not a pro-Faschist project" on the back of my aggrotech album that heavily borrows fascist imagery and lyrics, with absolutely no meaningful commentary.
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has anyone used goatse for their aggrotech album cover yet? also, what is aggrotech? is that the word for the invader zim access virus stuff that dominated the early 2000s and all sounded exactly the same?
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The Voice of Labor posted:also, what is aggrotech? is that the word for the invader zim access virus stuff that dominated the early 2000s and all sounded exactly the same? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81G9VGw2kCo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQHGjuOfojE
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