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Welp, I was supposed to get my Deck today, but Parcelforce are useless fucks and never even attempted to deliver it despite it being marked as out for delivery. Have to hope they'll actually try on Monday.
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Veotax posted:Welp, I was supposed to get my Deck today, but Parcelforce are useless fucks and never even attempted to deliver it despite it being marked as out for delivery. Have to hope they'll actually try on Monday. Sounds like they got the parcel, looked at it and said "Hey, this needs to go into the queue for 24 hours before we deliver". It's crazy considering how many packages these places have to sort through a day.
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Mar 18, 2022 22:36
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I dunno', maybe. But it was out for delivery the whole day, I was given an hour slot and could even track the truck on the map for that hour (it never moved from the spot).
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Mar 18, 2022 22:46
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Veotax posted:I dunno', maybe. But it was out for delivery the whole day, I was given an hour slot and could even track the truck on the map for that hour (it never moved from the spot). that means it caught a scan but didn't actually go out for delivery, the spot was probably the shipping center
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Mar 18, 2022 23:53
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"gamepass will never come to steam deck" About that: https://twitter.com/CJGluckstein/status/1504874456300154884?t=VOVpdhrhvJ-jpXPaHwgtnA&s=19
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Mar 19, 2022 02:43
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Harminoff posted:"gamepass will never come to steam deck" They mean gamepass where you install the game locally. Streaming was never going to be an issue because MS has worked on making sure the streaming part works on as many devices as possible.
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Mar 19, 2022 02:51
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Streaming runs on Azure so of course they want it everywhere. It's still an MS platform.
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From a video I saw of Halo Infinite running via Cloud Streaming, it looks like it only eats up like 8.5 Watts, so it's great on the battery and massively increases your library if you're okay with streaming games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slsqf3PyzcY
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My Deck has 20gb of the NVME taken up by “Other” and keeps growing. I think it’s games’ validation files, whatever that means, when games download bits of stuff after you play them? I guess it could be save files? I’m not sure but it’s kind of A Problem, or will be sooner than later. e: uninstalling a 20gb game from my SD card brought down the Other data on my internal NVME by like 750mb. What in the world. Is that save data? Some sort of drivers or something? Soul Glo fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Mar 19, 2022 |
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Soul Glo posted:My Deck has 20gb of the NVME taken up by “Other” and keeps growing. I think it’s games’ validation files, whatever that means, when games download bits of stuff after you play them? I guess it could be save files?
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JazzFlight posted:Could shaders take up that much space? Switch to desktop mode, install Filelight, and find out. Note that "shaders" also includes transcoded audio and video files for the games that use Microsoft codecs that Valve hasn't implemented because of patents.
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Soul Glo posted:My Deck has 20gb of the NVME taken up by “Other” and keeps growing. I think it’s games’ validation files, whatever that means, when games download bits of stuff after you play them? I guess it could be save files? This is pure speculation I don't know for sure, but could it have something to do with proton? I remember some companies releasing old NES games that should be less than 3 mb but ended up being 300 mb each due to how they were packaging and emulating them. Maybe there's a similar situation with proton where it has a bunch of duplicate files for each title it has to configure or something.
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Like, this is bad because if you go with the smallest system, a 64gb storage situation, with the idea that you will just throw a terabyte card into it and call it a day, each of those games you install on the SD will require some amount of space on the internal storage anyway.JazzFlight posted:Could shaders take up that much space? I have no earthly idea. It must be something to do with Proton/Steam OS if games on the expandable storage require data on the internal to run correctly though, I guess? Dramicus posted:This is pure speculation I don't know for sure, but could it have something to do with proton? I remember some companies releasing old NES games that should be less than 3 mb but ended up being 300 mb each due to how they were packaging and emulating them. Maybe there's a similar situation with proton where it has a bunch of duplicate files for each title it has to configure or something. I know dick about Proton or Steam OS but looking at the storage itself in the settings, the Proton installs show up as "games," and are accounted for in the breakdown of space. This Other poo poo is just in the ether somewhere in the storage.
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Fantastic, I received my Deck this morning and I need to RMA it. L3 doesn't work, the system doesn't register clicking the left stick in the system software (doesn't light up when pressed in control diagnostics) or in game. I've updated the system to the latest firmware, powered off and restarted the system, done a factory reset and then tried again without updating. Still not working. Also Steam Support is throwing up an error when I try to submit a ticket. Hopefully it's not going to take too long to get a replacement, once Steam lets me make a ticket. EDIT: Managed to make a ticket in Chrome rather than the steam app Veotax fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Mar 19, 2022 |
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Speaking of SD cards, the one I got causes the deck to not boot when it's inserted so that's fun. Just stays on the deck icon indefinitely. Pulled the card and hard reset and it works fine
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DoubleT2172 posted:Speaking of SD cards, the one I got causes the deck to not boot when it's inserted so that's fun. Just stays on the deck icon indefinitely. Pulled the card and hard reset and it works fine You could try reformating the sd card to some kind of linux file system like ext3 on another computer and see if that helps.
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Veotax posted:Fantastic, I received my Deck this morning and I need to RMA it. L3 doesn't work, the system doesn't register clicking the left stick in the system software (doesn't light up when pressed in control diagnostics) or in game. poo poo, sorry to hear that. I was able to lodge a ticket on the app when asking for them to clarify the deliver, so hopefully they will get you sorted out soon enough.
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Dramicus posted:You could try reformating the sd card to some kind of linux file system like ext3 on another computer and see if that helps. This has to be the problem, I'll look into it, thanks!
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JazzFlight posted:Could shaders take up that much space? Someone mentioned to me that their FF14 Proton shader cache is nearly 5GB It'll vary widely between different games depending on how the engine is designed though
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sounds like the system is a disaster. Time to cancel the preorder
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repiv posted:Someone mentioned to me that their FF14 Proton shader cache is nearly 5GB Are shaders something that can be optimized and shrunken down or is this just the nature of the beast? Because god drat, I have a 512GB in reserve and a 1TB MicroSD on hand but it would suck if a substantial amount of space is taken up by shaders. I guess I'll just have to learn to roll with the punches.
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Just play vampire survivors. No shaders, problem solved.
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Dramicus posted:Just play vampire survivors. No shaders, problem solved. It CHUUUUUGS in the last few minutes
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Soul Glo posted:It CHUUUUUGS in the last few minutes Does the "Play with Experimental Lag fix" launch option do anything to help that?
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Got mine yesterday and spent most of the time playing Elden Ring on my PS5 via Chiaki. Good news is it worked great over streaming and wasn't bad at all to get set up. I played for about 3 and a half hours over streaming and it looked like there was an hour and a half left, and I had my brightness maxed out, so this thing does streaming pretty well from a battery perspective (also felt better from a latency perspective than remote play on my iPad or other devices).
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Samopsa posted:After Q2 people should now get a Q3 date confirmed on the order page if they apply! Just got caught up on the thread and learned that I'm in the Q3 crew. Thank you!
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Golashes posted:Got mine yesterday and spent most of the time playing Elden Ring on my PS5 via Chiaki. Good news is it worked great over streaming and wasn't bad at all to get set up. I played for about 3 and a half hours over streaming and it looked like there was an hour and a half left, and I had my brightness maxed out, so this thing does streaming pretty well from a battery perspective (also felt better from a latency perspective than remote play on my iPad or other devices). Wait, so you're using the Steam Deck like a Vita for Playstation Remote Play? That loving owns.
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Volte posted:It's not really that true, Stack Ranking (the system that pitted employees against each other which I guess is what the comic is trying to show?) was Ballmer's galaxy brain idea that he copied from General Electric. It was dropped the second he left. https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/hr-topics/compensation/pages/stack-ranking-microsoft.aspx Which leads to all sorts of insanity, of course. You can search for complaints about Valve's stack ranking system.
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Looks like Valve really made the right choice in going for the weaker CPU + stronger GPU combo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3ZM4NXk9v8 The steam deck basically trounces the aya neo that has a CPU that's roughly twice as powerful. I'd imagine the Aya is going to be better at emulation though.
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sigher posted:Wait, so you're using the Steam Deck like a Vita for Playstation Remote Play? That loving owns. It's exactly like that and it kicks rear end. It's even better since the sticks are full size and you have full triggers/back buttons etc. The only very very minor downside is it doesn't play nice with the overlay so you have to launch it via desktop (I imagine this is probably going to be the case with a bunch of emulators and whatnot) Golashes fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Mar 20, 2022 |
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Dramicus posted:Looks like Valve really made the right choice in going for the weaker CPU + stronger GPU combo. Yeah I watched this last night and its pretty drat impressive how powerful the deck really is at such a lower TDP and price.
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Anyone else had issues getting the onscreen keyboard to show up in desktop mode? It works remarkably well when it appears, but sometimes it just refuses to open when pressing Steam+X.
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Haven’t games been gpu bound for the last 13 years? Why would a mobile device focus on the cpu 
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Nuts and Gum posted:Haven’t games been gpu bound for the last 13 years? Why would a mobile device focus on the cpu It’s easier, and cheaper, to flex with a cpu than engineer an affordable mobile gpu into your thing
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Yeah steam essentially came up with theirs on their own and the Neo is using an off the shelf part. It’s still a good part just not as good as the steam alternative.
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Nuts and Gum posted:Haven’t games been gpu bound for the last 13 years? Why would a mobile device focus on the cpu Because they literally don't have a choice. They cannot afford to commission AMD to design them a custom SoC like Valve did, so they're forced to use off-the-shelf parts, and are bound to whatever configuration those use. Intel and AMD both favor CPU over GPU in their products, so that's how it goes. Valve is really coming at the market with every unfair advantage they can leverage. Which is fine for the most part, it's certainly good for the consumer to have such a cheap and efficient option, but lol at Valve's claims that the steam deck will somehow help foster competition instead of bury it. There's really no way to compete with the steam deck at all as a third party except to rely on the fact that Valve can't make them fast enough. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Mar 21, 2022 |
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Because they literally don't have a choice. They cannot afford to commission AMD to design them a custom SoC like Valve did, so they're forced to use off-the-shelf parts, and are bound to whatever configuration those use. Intel and AMD both favor CPU over GPU in their products, so that's how it goes. Boutiques still won't be able to compete with the Deck on price, but won't the new mobile Rembrandt APUs outperform Van Gogh in both CPU and GPU?
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Ah okay; didn’t realize the only off the shelf options only come in that config. Valve must have spent so much money on this project it’s insane to think about what a gamble it must have been.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Because they literally don't have a choice. They cannot afford to commission AMD to design them a custom SoC like Valve did, so they're forced to use off-the-shelf parts, and are bound to whatever configuration those use. Intel and AMD both favor CPU over GPU in their products, so that's how it goes. The custom APU in the Steam Deck is really only 1 generation ahead of the off-the-shelf parts. In theory, we should see competitor models that match or out-perform the Steam deck by the end of 2022. I imagine Valve won't be sleeping and will continue to leverage their relationship with AMD, but in 6 or so months, the only real advantage of the Steam Deck will be price.
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