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Fritz the Horse posted:The Ukrainian-Canadian population is not a monolith. A couple of the (Canadian) CSPAM mods have mentioned that Ukrainian immigrants played important roles in the labor movement in Canada and a chunk are/were pretty left-wing. There is of course a large Ukrainian nationalist segment which has ties to the Ukrainian far-right and Banderite elements. It's important however not to generalize support of SS Galizien monuments and Azov battalion to the entire Canadian diaspora. yup. it's a lot of why there was that weird effort by the Canadian government to import ones like the aforementioned Minister of Finance's grandfather, who was the proud editor of a Nazi propaganda newspaper, because before that effort Ukranians were viewed as a dangerously left-wing bloc in Canadian labor politics
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Willa Rogers posted:Yeah, the lack of "access to affordable" treatment was a factor in the spike in alcohol-related deaths, as was the delay of treatment for alcohol-related conditions like liver disease & mental illness. There's also the thing where if you need to see a shrink, go to rehab type visits or what have you that a LOT of employers will not work with you and any of these types of interruptions in building cogs for them count against you. I have psychiatrist and pain management doctors that I absolutely have to legally see every legally defined period of time or else I cannot refill my medication. And I can't usually pick and choose what times they have available. I have a special needs child that I co-parent with my ex. He has ADHD, mild autism and epilepsy. Now, being a responsible parent, this involves meeting with his teachers, doctors and therapists - in addition to tending to his different schedules depending on where we are on the school year calendar. Younger and parentless goons might be surprised how often this poo poo is used against you. I have worked places that WILL give you the time, but they have some weird "points system" where missing x amount of time or whatever adds to your total and if you accumulate y amount in 6 months or something, it fucks up your review or whatever and can also get you written up. It's some real 5th grade demerit type poo poo. Say an order is due late Friday afternoon, it's Wednesday and they want you to work overtime but you have to pick up your kid that night. They WON'T allow you to come in early on Thursday and stay late then come in Friday early because everyone has to work 8-5 or whatever it is because we are a machine and treat everyone like robots. Like, I can't stay late tonight but I can be here at 5am tomorrow and work til 6pm. I HAVE to see my doctor Thursday at 9am but I can stay late that night and come in super early the next day. I can come in every other Saturday when I don't have my kid. Companies say "no one wants to work" but don't understand or accommodate the idea that working on yourself is also work. I have had to turn down several jobs simply because I cannot make it work with my parenting schedule and mandatory doctor visits. "Nope. Here, everyone has to work from 7:30 to 4 with a half hour lunch at exact;y 11:30. If that makes sense. I've worked places that said you couldn't take a poo poo unless it was break time (assuming you get a work break). This leads to people sacrificing and postponing health treatment - mental or otherwise - because middle management and GM's (who somehow are able to hit the golf course every friday afternoon) have determined that we are all robots, 4th graders and ants. Also, there's no real reason I need to see my psychiatrist for the meds I take except for laws passed that say I do.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Per capita and median calculations by definition factor inequality into the count. Mean or average calculations are subject to outlier skews. Your link is locked behind a paywall. Finding an alternative source for what’s likely the same data, I find these numbers difficult to believe that they take everything into account. I highly doubt Americans have twice the amount of income to play around with compared to EU members or third more than Canadians. For example, the majority of Americans can’t afford $1000 emergency. With Canadians that number is less than 40%.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Your link is locked behind a paywall. They do take all transfers into account. It's been true forever. You can find it hard to believe, but it has been true for many years. The median U.S. citizen doesn't have twice as much disposable income as the average E.U. citizen. Just some countries in the E.U. The median citizen of Latvia, Hungary, and Portugal aren't the median representatives of the E.U. as a whole. You also have to factor in PPP adjustments. In many E.U. countries, you have large amounts of the population living in a single central urban environment with higher costs of living. ~16% of England's population lives in London. For the U.S., the largest city is NYC and only 2.5% of Americans live there.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Your link is locked behind a paywall. I think our very rich skew those averages but the basics of "Americans have few services but more opportunities to get filthy rich and Europeans have more services but less opportunities to get filthy rich" seem to be backed by the numbers. I'd personally like more services and less chances to get filthy rich.
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Gumball Gumption posted:I think our very rich skew those averages but the basics of "Americans have few services but more opportunities to get filthy rich and Europeans have more services but less opportunities to get filthy rich" seem to be backed by the numbers. I'd personally like more services and less chances to get filthy rich. Our very rich don't skew per capita and median measures. Mean/Average is not the same as Median.
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Gumball Gumption posted:I think our very rich skew those averages but the basics of "Americans have few services but more opportunities to get filthy rich and Europeans have more services but less opportunities to get filthy rich" seem to be backed by the numbers. I'd personally like more services and less chances to get filthy rich. Think again. The US is 27th on the Global Social Mobility index, behind most European nations
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BiggerBoat posted:There's also the thing where if you need to see a shrink, go to rehab type visits or what have you that a LOT of employers will not work with you and any of these types of interruptions in building cogs for them count against you. I have psychiatrist and pain management doctors that I absolutely have to legally see every legally defined period of time or else I cannot refill my medication. And I can't usually pick and choose what times they have available. oh yah, that pain-management bullshit is another reason people turn to the bottle these days: for pain relief. I think I read a nyt story recently about how even the government realizes that they overstepped on the regulations required now for pain management, such as restricting opioids for people dying of cancer. and yes: you make a lot of sense about the vagaries of scheduling & trying to balance it with a special-needs child. Good thing the Democratic congressional majority & a Democratic president have now passed
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Manager Hoyden posted:Think again. The US is 27th on the Global Social Mobility index, behind most European nations Yeah, mobility is actually lower in the U.S. than in Canada or (most) E.U. countries. The standard deviation of income distribution in the U.S. is wider than those countries. So, even though the median American has more disposable income than the median E.U. citizen, the absolute poorest 12.5% of U.S. citizens have about equal or even less disposable income than the poorest 12.5% of French citizens; and the richest 12.5% of Americans have significantly more disposable income than the richest 12.5% of French citizens.
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BiggerBoat posted:There's also the thing where if you need to see a shrink, go to rehab type visits or what have you that a LOT of employers will not work with you and any of these types of interruptions in building cogs for them count against you. I have psychiatrist and pain management doctors that I absolutely have to legally see every legally defined period of time or else I cannot refill my medication. And I can't usually pick and choose what times they have available. Just FYI, they can't actually hold it against you in your review or penalize you financially for medical appointments under FMLA. Sometimes, you might have to invoke FMLA yourself if your employer doesn't want to let you know about it. They don't have to pay you for FMLA time, but they can't mark it against you and if there is any perception that they fired you or penalized you for FMLA-eligible time, then they can have major problems. Ongoing maintenance or recurring treatment for a mental or physical illness (addiction is considered a illness) will always be covered under FMLA. You just can't exceed 12 weeks in a year. And your employer has to be bound by it, so it doesn't apply to small businesses with only a dozen people. I doubt a factory would ever fall under that, though.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Our very rich don't skew per capita and median measures. E: worded up my mixes Mellow Seas fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Mar 24, 2022 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Just FYI, they can't actually hold it against you in your review or penalize you financially for medical appointments under FMLA. Sometimes, you might have to invoke FMLA yourself if your employer doesn't want to let you know about it. What they can actually do is find every other acceptable excuse to harass you. And often they do. Many people can't afford to get fired even if they might eventually win a lawsuit about it.
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Mellow Seas posted:I gotcha loud and clear on median but isn’t “per capita” usually a straight expression of total $/population? I think that eg Bezos WOULD add $10 to the per capita disposable figure income. Yes, I meant "purchasing power parity" and not per capita. Autocorrect got me. Edit: My Android phone also wants to autocorrect "PPP" to "FBI" despite there being no common letters in either. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Mar 24, 2022 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:The general consensus is that it’s roughly 1/5th to 1/3rd of Americans who can’t afford care at all. And even if you can "afford it" you can't really in most cases. I mean, the coverage I have now is pretty good for the doctor visits and prescriptions I take but, like most people, god loving help me when it's time to go to the ER, I get diabetes or need chemo. I keep a .45 handy for when that "coverage" kicks in. E Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Just FYI, they can't actually hold it against you in your review or penalize you financially for medical appointments under FMLA. Sometimes, you might have to invoke FMLA yourself if your employer doesn't want to let you know about it. Thanks, I'll look into it. But it sounds like one of those things that "they can't do" that they'll just loving do anyway and, also, if I'm up front about this poo poo in an interview or something it can lead to a hard pass right there because it's just too much trouble and complicates the mold they've built. All these Sales Managers and GM's I've worked for that tell us to knuckle down and stay late for last minute orders and poo poo are always the first ones out the door on a Friday to hit the links or attending to a personal matter for 3 hours during a sunny afternoon. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Mar 24, 2022 |
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Harold Fjord posted:What they can actually do is find every other acceptable excuse to harass you. And often they do. FMLA is pretty ironclad and there actually aren't that many violations annually. They absolutely can harass you about other "legit" violations, though.
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NutShellBill posted:Hi. Third generation Ukrainian-Canadian here. The US government doesn't care about genocide at all, and claiming that's why the US is getting involved is obviously not true, so looking suspiciously at what they're upto seems sensible. Not sure how your grandparents being Ukrainian contradicts that point?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They do take all transfers into account. It's been true forever. You can find it hard to believe, but it has been true for many years. I find there to be a stark contradiction between data saying Americans are living on the edge more than Canadians yet at the same time having more money to throw around.
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some plague rats posted:The US government doesn't care about genocide at all, and claiming that's why the US is getting involved is obviously not true, so looking suspiciously at what they're upto seems sensible. Not sure how your grandparents being Ukrainian contradicts that point? I think the US government cares about some genocides, and cares about some genocides more than others. We clearly care about the genocide Putin is trying to enact in Ukraine. We care enough about the genocide the CCP is enacting in Xinjiang enough to make some noise about it, but not enough to do more than that at the moment. We don't care enough about a genocide we have already enacted ourselves, the genocide of the Native Indigenous peoples of North America at our hands, to spend the required resources to ameliorate the legacy of such (although that has started to change a little bit under Biden's ARPA and IIJA!).
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some plague rats posted:The US government doesn't care about genocide at all, and claiming that's why the US is getting involved is obviously not true, so looking suspiciously at what they're upto seems sensible. Not sure how your grandparents being Ukrainian contradicts that point? Shocking two things can be bad, and in this case I suspect Russia's actions and intentions are overwhelmingly more bad and suspect than the US's actions in this, and frankly its tiring to pretend otherwise.
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punk rebel ecks posted:I mean does "disposable income" really matter if people can't afford healthcare, housing, education, and the like where U.S. lags compared to it's Canadian or EU counterparts? When it includes transfers for healthcare and education, they are factored in already. And the U.S. does not lag Canada in affordable housing. Canada's real estate market is currently insane and worse than the U.S. The average home price in the U.S. is ~$322k USD (~$403,683 Canadian dollars) The average home price in Canada is ~$748k Canadian dollars (~$596,645 USD) https://globalnews.ca/news/8620883/...%20CREA%20said.
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How are u posted:I think the US government cares about some genocides, and cares about some genocides more than others. We clearly care about the genocide Putin is trying to enact in Ukraine. We care enough about the genocide the CCP is enacting in Xinjiang enough to make some noise about it, but not enough to do more than that at the moment. We don't care enough about a genocide we have already enacted ourselves, the genocide of the Native Indigenous peoples of North America at our hands, to spend the required resources to ameliorate the legacy of such (although that has started to change a little bit under Biden's ARPA and IIJA!). Or the ones our allies currently commit or the ones we are currently committing unless choosing to restrict access to food to intentionally starve and kill a group of people is no longer considered a genocide. CommieGIR posted:Shocking two things can be bad, and in this case I suspect Russia's actions and intentions are overwhelmingly more bad and suspect than the US's actions in this, and frankly its tiring to pretend otherwise. Pointing out that the US doesn't care about genocide and uses it as an excuse to rally sympathy around it's own motives is not saying that you love Russia and don't think they're doing anything and frankly it's tiring to pretend otherwise. Russia is committing a genocide, the US government has no interest in stopping genocides so that can't be their motive here. It might be your motive, it's a good one. You're a good person for not wanting genocide to happen. The US government doesn't care. Gumball Gumption fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Mar 24, 2022 |
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Gumball Gumption posted:Pointing out that the US doesn't care about genocide and uses it as an excuse to rally sympathy around it's own motives is not saying that you love Russia and don't think they're doing anything and frankly it's tiring to pretend otherwise. Russia is committing a genocide, the US government has no interest in stopping germicides so that can't be their motive here. It might be your motive, it's a good one. You're a good person for not wanting genocide to happen. The US government doesn't care. Okay framed like that, I can agree with that statement. Yes, the US is not likely involved because of Russian genocide against Ukrainians. But preventing it as a side effect is something I can support.
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How are u posted:I think the US government cares about some genocides, and cares about some genocides more than others. We clearly care about the genocide Putin is trying to enact in Ukraine. We care enough about the genocide the CCP is enacting in Xinjiang enough to make some noise about it, but not enough to do more than that at the moment. We don't care enough about a genocide we have already enacted ourselves, the genocide of the Native Indigenous peoples of North America at our hands, to spend the required resources to ameliorate the legacy of such (although that has started to change a little bit under Biden's ARPA and IIJA!). putin is trying to enact a genocide in ukraine? first I've heard of it, but it's possible I missed something. wouldn't put it past him by a long shot, but to my knowledge only one of America and Russia is currently actively engaged in a program of ethnic cleansing at its borders
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:wouldn't put it past him by a long shot, but to my knowledge only one of America and Russia is currently actively engaged in a program of ethnic cleansing at its borders I've got some bad news for you.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:putin is trying to enact a genocide in ukraine? first I've heard of it, but it's possible I missed something. When Putin says "Denazification" he doesn't mean Azov. He mean's Ukrainian culture in general. https://twitter.com/olgatokariuk/status/1507037472005443591?s=20&t=i0rHdwLG9pgOLxcPlXF_yw
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Willa Rogers posted:Also, this chart for lols since I came across it while looking for the med-cost survey: I realize Medicaid is not Medicare, but you're aware that was at least part of the reason for limiting Medicare to olds right? Same reason why SS was initially much more limited.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:When it includes transfers for healthcare and education, they are factored in already. How does it "factor in" when less Americans can afford emergency payments and a third of them aren't getting any type healthcare due to cost?
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Not surprising given her views on gays and lesbians, but Tulsi has officially crossed over into TERF territory. https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1506937567337345030 Weirdly, Tucker also announced that he considers himself a TERF (although he didn't use the word) because his main problem with trans rights are that it is anti-science and that opportunities for women are being erased by "men" taking their spots in sports, jobs, and politics; and he wants to promote women in those roles. https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1506783469581578241 Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Mar 24, 2022 |
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That's interesting because when I try to talk science with TERFs they don't want to talk science.
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CommieGIR posted:When Putin says "Denazification" he doesn't mean Azov. ...you say this, and then when you click through to the Facebook (?) link, the actual crime russian soldiers stand accused of is removing schoolbooks about Great Hero Bandera, which makes me raise an eyebrow. the Russian invasion is a tremendous number of extremely terrible things. Saddam was not throwing Kuwaiti children out of incubators, Fallujah was not an entire city willing to fight Americans to the death, and as yet, it does not look like our geopolitical rival's goal is genocide. traditionally the American people really enjoy gassing themselves up by saying so though
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:putin is trying to enact a genocide in ukraine? first I've heard of it, but it's possible I missed something. In addition to the start of overt action we've been seeing, Putin's been troublingly vocal (most notably in The Rant that had some people on the fence about Russian invasion go "well balls guess it's happening") about buying into a pretty unpleasant far right narrative on Ukraine. - Ukraine isn't a real country, it's part of Russia - Ukrainian isn't a real language, it's a Russian dialect - Ukrainians aren't a real culture, they're confused Russians - We need to abolish these fake delineations and bring them back into the loving embrace of their real country - They've also been brainwashed by decadent westernness so we should do something about that too In the event of a total Russian victory, he's not going to wipe out Ukrainians en masse unless they could be described as dissidents or journalists. A dedicated campaign of Russification by a far right occupying power is still, you inow, bad.
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Jaxyon posted:I realize Medicaid is not Medicare, but you're aware that was at least part of the reason for limiting Medicare to olds right? I meant liberals who say that single-payer will never ever happen bc those guys over there don't want people of color to get it, when liberals themselves are the emperors of means-testing and other gate-keeping that ends up hurting people of color. (See KFF charts above about who's impacted the most when it comes to medical costs.)
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punk rebel ecks posted:How does it "factor in" when less Americans can afford emergency payments and a third of them aren't getting any type healthcare due to cost? Because when you are measuring outlays and payments and include transfers for education and health, then you are factoring in taxes and monetary transfers. Very simplified example: Two people make 50k. Person A pays 10k in taxes and pays 3k for medical care. That is a net negative of 13k from your gross income and Person A has 37k in disposable income. Person B pays 20k in taxes and receives 5k in in-kind contributions for healthcare from the government. That is a net negative of 15k from your gross income and Person B has 35k in disposable income. You're also confusing self-reported survey data with actual data from bank accounts and expenditures.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:In addition to the start of overt action we've been seeing, Putin's been troublingly vocal (most notably in The Rant that had some people on the fence about Russian invasion go "well balls guess it's happening") about buying into a pretty unpleasant far right narrative on Ukraine. Indeed, it is genocide. Same thing as putting Native Americans in boarding schools to erase their culture, language, community, and identity.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:In addition to the start of overt action we've been seeing, Putin's been troublingly vocal (most notably in The Rant that had some people on the fence about Russian invasion go "well balls guess it's happening") about buying into a pretty unpleasant far right narrative on Ukraine. no argument here, I'm just having a hard time putting it higher on the ol' genocideometer than 'these vermin are a plague risk and as such must be purged from our borders, by men on horseback with whips if necessary,' which I have been assured rather than genocide is just a Pragmatic Compromise To Get Things Done.
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