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Bugsy posted:Yep that was about ACA. Can there be any consequences for either Thomas?
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Ershalim posted:Sometimes harm reduction requires some harm to be done, in lieu of a perfect option. I get why people say harm reduction for electoral choices or global conflicts because it's a very literal use of the word. But specifically with global conflicts, anything can be described as harm reduction short of just killing every single Russian citizen because war can always be worse. So, the term becomes meaningless. It just frustrates me because we're throwing a good, progressive policy framework under the bus and making a phrase toxic. Hell, one of the big critiques people have fairly had around here is that Biden didn't pursue harm reduction polices in conjunction with his vaccine push.
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Residency Evil posted:Can there be any consequences for either Thomas? The consequences are Clarence Thomas being in the hospital with some rare Covid strain that sprung from the social milieu she runs in. Beyond that? Hahaha no my friend, what country do you think you are in?
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Mar 25, 2022 13:55
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selec posted:The consequences are Clarence Thomas being in the hospital with some rare Covid strain that sprung from the social milieu she runs in. Ah, right, I forgot about the first part. At least there's that. 
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Mar 25, 2022 14:00
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GreyjoyBastard posted:what i'm saying is, this is a man who when presented with "but if we followed your principles your marriage would have been illegal" responds with "yeah, so?" Wait, what? Someone said this to him and that's how he responded? Do you have a link?
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Mar 25, 2022 14:55
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Meatball posted:Wait, what? Someone said this to him and that's how he responded? Do you have a link? He is on the record as thinking Loving v. Virginia was wrongly decided. Edit: and if you know anything about his jurisprudence this is not remotely surprising
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Mar 25, 2022 15:12
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Residency Evil posted:Can there be any consequences for either Thomas? Yes. Biden and the democrats can recognize that the Supreme Court is illegitimate and ignore all rulings until the Supreme Court is fixed. To continue to believe in the legitimacy of the Supreme Court is to be complacent with (and I would argue even support) the recent rulings.
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Mar 25, 2022 15:18
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Yes. Biden and the democrats can recognize that the Supreme Court is illegitimate and ignore all rulings until the Supreme Court is fixed. selec posted:Hahaha no my friend, what country do you think you are in?
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Mar 25, 2022 15:24
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THe problem is that the Democrats actually follow the rules and laws even if it hurts them, while the republicans have realized that laws are more of...you know...guidelines to power.
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Mar 25, 2022 15:26
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I think VBC is correctly describing what is theoretically tenable in our current system if the Democrats were anything but controlled opposition. We can wait and see what actually happens and I agree with selec's take there that it is unlikely anything substantial will. If Biden did that I do think it would work I think Republicans would raise holy hell and everyone left or liberal would laugh in their face. I just really don't think the Democratic party has it in them.
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Mar 25, 2022 15:27
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So far, only 2 Republicans haven't totally ruled out voting to confirm KBJ. She will probably break the record for closest confirmation vote in history and possibly be the first to require the Vice President to vote. https://twitter.com/politico/status/1507365517065179137
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Harold Fjord posted:I think VBC is correctly describing what is theoretically tenable in our current system if the Democrats were anything but controlled opposition. We can wait and see what actually happens and I agree with selec's take there that it is unlikely anything substantial will. Yeah, bottom line is unless Democrats start wielding power effectively they're just fighting a war of attrition until they lose for good. Which is irresponsible foolishness or their goal for underdog fundraising depending on how cynical your view of them is. In either case there is no point in investing time, money, or effort in supporting the party.
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Mar 25, 2022 15:41
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Any noises from, e.g. Romney about how he could possibly, you know what never mind. I don't even care what their bullshit sounds like anymore.
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https://twitter.com/statuscoup/status/1506365122540978176?s=21&t=MO4NZJyqzHlkjlOjCzrudg https://twitter.com/diabeyonce/status/1506314684441546760?s=21&t=BL0cmtwWY_Ur5bEyZBtOZw Students in Florida have been protesting the Don’t Say Gay bill. In the first clip, the students being interviewed express disillusionment with the Democratic Party. At their age, I still believed in the Democratic Party and always voted for them. But over time, I saw them make promises but never fight for them. It’s interesting how these kids are seeing past the illusion now, either because they are smarter than I was at the time or because the Democratic Party is so poo poo nowadays, that it’s hard not to see the truth. Or both. The second flip is just documenting the walk out at a school. theCalamity fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Mar 25, 2022 |
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Mar 25, 2022 15:45
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Just in time for 4/20 month, Congress is doing a weed week today and next week. - They are voting on a bipartisan banking reform bill to allow banks to do business with legal marijuana retailers without violating money laundering laws. - They are voting on a legalization bill that is expected to fail to overcome the filibuster as well. https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1507085315953078273
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Mar 25, 2022 15:46
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Bishyaler posted:Yeah, bottom line is unless Democrats start wielding power effectively they're just fighting a war of attrition until they lose for good. Which is irresponsible foolishness or their goal for underdog fundraising depending on how cynical your view of them is. In either case there is no point in investing time, money, or effort in supporting the party. I don't _want_ to support the democrats, because I think a few of their core tenents are wrong. BUT, if I have to chose between the democrats and voting for the insanity party, I'm going to vote democrat.
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Mar 25, 2022 15:50
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Just in time for 4/20 month, Congress is doing a weed week today and next week. What's wild is that the cannabis industry has already adapted to unfavorable banking conditions. CanPay and other 3rd party payer services exist. It's almost like they waited until a boutique industry serving cannabis companies was allowed to flourish just for the sake of creating a new, bullshit industry out of whole cloth.
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Mar 25, 2022 15:54
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Lib and let die posted:What's wild is that the cannabis industry has already adapted to unfavorable banking conditions. CanPay and other 3rd party payer services exist. It's almost like they waited until a boutique industry serving cannabis companies was allowed to flourish just for the sake of creating a new, bullshit industry out of whole cloth. Payroll and taxes are still a nightmare for dispensaries. I don't know how much of a pain the retail payment aspect is right now, but it used to be bad.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Payroll and taxes are still a nightmare for dispensaries. I just walk into the dispensary and pay with my debit card. 
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Mar 25, 2022 16:06
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Lib and let die posted:I just walk into the dispensary and pay with my debit card. I meant on the business end in terms of paying/calculating the excise and sales tax and keeping sales records. For a while, they had to do it by hand because they didn't have access to business checking accounts and were operating primarily in cash (which also made them a huge target for crime).
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Mar 25, 2022 16:11
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Just in time for 4/20 month, Congress is doing a weed week today and next week. I would love for this to pass though I feel like considering Biden's stance on weed they might need a veto-proof majority to get it out there? Would be happy to be wrong about that though!
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Mar 25, 2022 16:16
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I meant on the business end in terms of paying/calculating the excise and sales tax and keeping sales records. For a while, they had to do it by hand because they didn't have access to business checking accounts and were operating primarily in cash (which also made them a huge target for crime). My heart bleeds for them. Meanwhile registered medical marijuana patients can't grow their own because that would interfere with profits.
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I'm still mad that as the only state with our own bank that we didn't pass a law to accept banking of cannabis related sales. Could've done a good thing and brought in an insane amount of revenue to do public works.
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Srice posted:I would love for this to pass though I feel like considering Biden's stance on weed they might need a veto-proof majority to get it out there? I don't think it's possible for the Senate to vote in a way that beats a filibuster (60) but doesn't beat a veto override (67). Either you attract all 50 republicans or zero of them. There is no issue that will attract more than 10 but fewer than 17, the Senate just doesn't work like that any more Not saying the bill will definitely pass, but I don't think we'll be in a situation where Biden's veto makes the difference
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Mar 25, 2022 16:21
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Srice posted:I would love for this to pass though I feel like considering Biden's stance on weed they might need a veto-proof majority to get it out there? He supports the medical research bill that passed and the banking reform bill. He said he would sign a bill that provided full federal decriminalization, but does not support federal legalization.
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Mar 25, 2022 16:21
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:He supports the medical research bill that passed and the banking reform bill. I'm probably courting the lines of "bring an original topic to discuss" with this one, but do we really want to start down the rabbit hole of what Biden said vs what he's delivered again? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Bishyaler posted:Yeah, bottom line is unless Democrats start wielding power effectively they're just fighting a war of attrition until they lose for good. Which is irresponsible foolishness or their goal for underdog fundraising depending on how cynical your view of them is. In either case there is no point in investing time, money, or effort in supporting the party. Exactly. Democrats (and their supporters) are likely to never recognize the illegitimacy of the Supreme Court because they are complicit with the lurch to the right and the path to a fascism. So I guess “lol”
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Lib and let die posted:I'm probably courting the lines of "bring an original topic to discuss" with this one, but do we really want to start down the rabbit hole of what Biden said vs what he's delivered again? He's not gonna veto the research or banking bill. And a legalization bill is never going to hit his desk.
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haveblue posted:I don't think it's possible for the Senate to vote in a way that beats a filibuster (60) but doesn't beat a veto override (67). Either you attract all 50 republicans or zero of them. There is no issue that will attract more than 10 but fewer than 17, the Senate just doesn't work like that any more Yea it'd definitely be a weird outlier for sure in that scenario but in light of how weird everything is all the time, at this point nothing would surprise me, y'know? I do agree it's very unlikely. Lib and let die posted:I'm probably courting the lines of "bring an original topic to discuss" with this one, but do we really want to start down the rabbit hole of what Biden said vs what he's delivered again? Yea this is absolutely a matter where I'd only believe him when he takes an action on it.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:He's not gonna veto the research or banking bill. Is this not something Biden could resolve with an EO?
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Mar 25, 2022 16:29
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I meant on the business end in terms of paying/calculating the excise and sales tax and keeping sales records. For a while, they had to do it by hand because they didn't have access to business checking accounts and were operating primarily in cash (which also made them a huge target for crime). Plus I'm pretty sure weed businesses aren't allowed to deduct business expenses from revenue for the purpose of federal taxes (at least as of a few years ago) and that's a bizarre accounting standard I've never seen levied on another business.
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Bishyaler posted:I'm still mad that as the only state with our own bank that we didn't pass a law to accept banking of cannabis related sales. Could've done a good thing and brought in an insane amount of revenue to do public works. the state bank may have had to comply with fdic rules or lose protections like insurance on accounts up to $250k.
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Willa Rogers posted:the state bank may have had to comply with fdic rules or lose protections like insurance on accounts up to $250k. If you consider the amount of revenue we would've brought in from handling all the cannabis sales in the US, I think at that point $250k of insurance is a bit more trivial. Plus the people in our state would love nothing more than an opportunity to tell the Federal Government to gently caress off.
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Mixed News for Biden, but I am somewhat surprised that most Americans aren't doing the "President Gas Lever Cartoon.jpeg" argument. Good for Biden: Less than half of Americans blame him for high gas prices. Bad for Biden: Most people think his spending and economic policies are causing inflation. - 69% of Americans say the economy is fair or poor. - Partisanship is overwhelmingly the driver of whether someone believes Biden's spending has hurt the economy. - Democrats are less loyal to Biden than Republicans are to Trump. - A majority of Americans say it is more important to effectively sanction Russia than it is to protect gas prices. Other surprising thing: - People are least concerned about housing costs' impact on their budget. Only 40% say they are very concerned. They are mostly concerned about gas prices, which 68% are very concerned about. Despite the fact that housing is the biggest chunk of everyone's spending and one of the sectors with the largest increases. https://twitter.com/AP/status/1507377277310578690 Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Mar 25, 2022 |
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Bishyaler posted:If you consider the amount of revenue we would've brought in from handling all the cannabis sales in the US, I think at that point $250k of insurance is a bit more trivial. Plus the people in our state would love nothing more than an opportunity to tell the Federal Government to gently caress off. Sure, but there might be other services affected, like ach transfers.
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Exactly. Democrats (and their supporters) are likely to never recognize the illegitimacy of the Supreme Court because they are complicit with the lurch to the right and the path to a fascism. As far as I’m concerned the Supreme Court should be completely ignored. Not only is it idiotic in practice (LIFE appointments? WTF?) but like most justices were put in over bullshit means. Gore won the popular vote in 2000, Hillary won in 2016, Obama should have picked his Supreme Court pick back in 2016. Bush and Trump appointments during their first terms shouldn’t apply.
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punk rebel ecks posted:As far as I’m concerned the Supreme Court should be completely ignored. Not only is it idiotic in practice (LIFE appointments? WTF?) but like most justices were put in over bullshit means. Gore won the popular vote in 2000, Hillary won in 2016, Obama should have picked his Supreme Court pick back in 2016. Bush and Trump appointments during their first terms shouldn’t apply. The naked illegitimacy of the Supreme Court and the senate are great reasons to doubt the legitimacy of the entire enterprise. We can see the edifice of state being nakedly corrupt over and over again, undeniably so. So where does the faith in the system come from? If an entire third of the substructure is an obvious partisan rubber stamp mechanism and half of another third is an antidemocratic institution designed to subvert popular will by deciding arbitrary units of population (states) all get equal representation, where is the legitimate work product we can point at? I get being scared of change, or just saying “well it’s not actually a democracy but it’s as close as we’ll ever get” but I couldn’t bring myself to accept that level of humiliation. How much of the government do we have to accept as illegitimate before the whole enterprise can be thrown out? Why bother with laws when they obviously don’t apply to the rich and famous, Eric?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Other surprising thing: I don't think 40 percent of respondents is an "only" situation when it comes to concern about being able to afford shelter, a human right. Plus it tracks almost identically with the percentage of 67 percent who own homes, instead of renting. I'd say it's a pretty dire stat as far as renters are concerned, and that's the group most likely to experience housing insecurity. Plus another 24 percent are "somewhat concerned." Altogether, 64 percent of respondents are experiencing some level of concern while 35 percent are not, which I consider pretty alarming--it's two out of every three respondents, and includes a hefty chunk of homeowners, to boot.
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Cimber posted:I don't _want_ to support the democrats, because I think a few of their core tenents are wrong. Well, that's pretty much everybody at least in my experience. Makes for a lovely bumper sticker though. I really really think that the dem's messaging and marketing needs a lot of work.
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