Star Trek: *hits blunt* The higher, the fewerrrrrr

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bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

The TV cut is the one that went even longer. It's what they cobbled together with all footage they had, including scenes with unfinished effects that they thought they could get away with because it was cropped to 4:3.

https://youtu.be/BfhYjOa13Dw

# ? Mar 25, 2022 14:09

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# ? May 20, 2024 17:49

jeeves: May 27, 2001; Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire

Honestly one of the best versions of TMP that I�ve seen was �Star Trek Legacy� on Vimeo where some dude did like a 25 minute cut of the film and set it pretty well to the Tron Legacy soundtrack.

Say what you want about the idea of doing that (and/or replacing the original rad soundtrack with another rad soundtrack), but that movie definitely benefits from heavy edits. I think 25 minutes is a bit much, especially since it removes stuff like the tension of Kirk wanting to be a captain again or the explanation of even the name V�GER, but the this movie would make a loving excellent 70 minute affair versus anything longer.

God that loving part with the warp wormhole asteroid slowmo is like the main offender.

TMP is so weird to me, as I age. I grew up on always knowing it existed and thinking it sucked, but as I got older I definitely have learned to appreciate it and the effort that went into it a lot more. Especially since ST3 is basically feels like a TV movie.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 15:58

Powered Descent: Jul 13, 2008; We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

jeeves posted:

Especially since ST3 is basically feels like a TV movie.

Yeah. I'm not sure how, but the exact same sets, costumes and props somehow look cheaper in ST3 than they did in ST2. I don't know enough about filmmaking to say exactly what makes the difference -- lighting? shot composition? film stock? -- but it's true.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 16:19

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

Powered Descent posted:

Yeah. I'm not sure how, but the exact same sets, costumes and props somehow look cheaper in ST3 than they did in ST2. I don't know enough about filmmaking to say exactly what makes the difference -- lighting? shot composition? film stock? -- but it's true.

It was a neophyte director in the chair in Nimoy which probably contributes to all those things.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 16:21

Lester Shy: May 1, 2002; Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

TMP should be six hours long.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 16:29

Arivia: Mar 17, 2011

Lester Shy posted:

TMP should be six hours long.

And like, a whole series. With an expanded role for Deckard and Ilia, maybe.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 16:56

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

Arivia posted:

And like, a whole series. With an expanded role for Deckard and Ilia, maybe.

Can we rework Illia so she has hair, maybe add a robot?

# ? Mar 25, 2022 17:03

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

Owlbear Camus posted:

Can we rework Illia so she has hair, maybe add a robot?

Why would you want to make Ilia less sexy?

# ? Mar 25, 2022 17:48

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

John Wick of Dogs posted:

Why would you want to make Ilia less sexy?

IDK. Maybe she could have an inconsistent accent she forgets to do in the movies?

I'm not sure what we do for chef engineer we'll sort it out in the second season.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 17:50

Angry_Ed: Mar 30, 2010; Grimey Drawer

Owlbear Camus posted:

IDK. Maybe she could have an inconsistent accent she forgets to do in the movies?

I'm not sure what we do for chef engineer we'll sort it out in the second season.

Chef Engineer Gordy Ramsey

# ? Mar 25, 2022 17:53

Admiralty Flag: Jun 7, 2007; to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

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Owlbear Camus posted:

I'm not sure what we do for chef engineer we'll sort it out in the second season.

The engineer who appears in the movie, Biff Yeager, is the epitome of a Starfleet engineer. Montgomery who? I look forward to seeing more of Biff in upcoming movies!

> letter is postmarked two days before first screening date of movie <

# ? Mar 25, 2022 17:55

Powered Descent: Jul 13, 2008; We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Owlbear Camus posted:

IDK. Maybe she could have an inconsistent accent she forgets to do in the movies?

I'm not sure what we do for chef engineer we'll sort it out in the second season.

But in the meantime, I've had this crazy idea -- hear me out, now -- what if the guy who's actually flying the ship... is blind?

# ? Mar 25, 2022 20:09

Timby: Dec 23, 2006; Your mother!

jeeves posted:

Especially since ST3 is basically feels like a TV movie.

This checks out, as 2, 3 and 4 were produced by Paramount's television division.

# ? Mar 25, 2022 21:39

Sash!: Mar 16, 2001

John Wick of Dogs posted:

Why would you want to make Ilia less sexy?

Hey, her oath of celibacy is on file, so what's the point?

# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:05

davidspackage: May 16, 2007; Nap Ghost

*writes on a cocktail napkin* ??4 tiddies??

# ? Mar 25, 2022 22:22

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

I would watch TSS three times in a row before rewatching TMP again

# ? Mar 26, 2022 00:19

Brawnfire: Jul 13, 2004; 🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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FlamingLiberal posted:

TSS

Toxic Spock Syndrome

# ? Mar 26, 2022 00:25

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

tmp is cool because you can go run some errands come back and it's still the same scene

# ? Mar 26, 2022 01:01

StashAugustine: Mar 24, 2013; Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Owlbear Camus posted:

tmp is cool because you can go run some errands come back and it's still the same scene

Yeah I'm a big Andrei Tarkovsky fan as well

# ? Mar 26, 2022 01:17

Drink-Mix Man: Mar 4, 2003; You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

Brawnfire posted:

Toxic Spock Syndrome

thread title nominee

# ? Mar 26, 2022 01:39

Powered Descent: Jul 13, 2008; We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Brawnfire posted:

Toxic Spock Syndrome

Is that too long for a username?

# ? Mar 26, 2022 01:42

Penitent: Jul 8, 2005; The Lemonade Man Can

Powered Descent posted:

Is that too long for a username?

Spocktopussy was :colbert:

# ? Mar 26, 2022 02:53

Sash!: Mar 16, 2001

I'm going to go out there and say it, but I've never liked TMP.

I swear it takes like 90 minutes for the movie to start, then you get to endure Spock's Face flying through a space anus for seemingly 30 minutes, and then the movie ends ten minutes later.

# ? Mar 26, 2022 05:16

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

I've never liked it either, it is just extremely sterile and incredibly overlong.

# ? Mar 26, 2022 05:25

bennyfactor: Nov 21, 2008

Sash! posted:

I'm going to go out there and say it, but I've never liked TMP.

I swear it takes like 90 minutes for the movie to start, then you get to endure Spock's Face flying through a space anus for seemingly 30 minutes, and then the movie ends ten minutes later.

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# ? Mar 26, 2022 05:26

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

It's clearly a space vagina, get that poo poo right

# ? Mar 26, 2022 05:27

Powered Descent: Jul 13, 2008; We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

I have made several attempts to watch TMP, both the original theatrical release and the director's cut. Of those, I have managed to stay awake through the whole thing one time, with the aid of a lot of caffeine.

I like the bit where they reveal the revamped Enterprise, even if it drags on a little long. And I really like the bit at the end with Voyager 6, into which most of the actual plot was compressed. The rest of it? :tootzzz:

# ? Mar 26, 2022 05:33

MikeJF: Dec 20, 2003

Yeah I recommend the legacy version instead then.

https://vimeo.com/217336882

# ? Mar 26, 2022 05:34

Khanstant: Apr 5, 2007

whatever happened to the race of bald space babes with clavicle lights? they always drag out spock but never the cool old times babes

# ? Mar 26, 2022 05:51

nine-gear crow: Aug 10, 2013

Khanstant posted:

whatever happened to the race of bald space babes with clavicle lights? they always drag out spock but never the cool old times babes

The Deltans showed up on Picard again for like five minutes in Episode 1 this year.

# ? Mar 26, 2022 06:15

Tighclops: Jan 23, 2008; Unable to deal with it; Grimey Drawer

TMP rules you drooling nerds

# ? Mar 26, 2022 06:46

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

Turn on your PADD

# ? Mar 26, 2022 07:06

Big Mean Jerk: Jan 27, 2009; Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Tighclops posted:

TMP rules you drooling nerds

You jabronis can complain about the pace all you want, but that�s genuinely my favorite part of the movie. I love how slow and deliberate every single thing in every scene is, it�s the perfect thing to watch when you just want to sink into a movie completely.

# ? Mar 26, 2022 07:06

Eimi: Nov 23, 2013; I will never ~~log off~~shut up.

Look you have to be able to pay attention so you get whiplash from them putting a scene making fun of McCoy's fear of transporters right next to a horrific transporter accident with the chilling line "Enterprise, what we got back didn't live long. Fortunately."

# ? Mar 26, 2022 07:07

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

I think TMP is a good movie but also cannot ever imagine watching it again.

# ? Mar 26, 2022 07:12

nine-gear crow: Aug 10, 2013

Grand Fromage posted:

I think TMP is a good movie but also cannot ever imagine watching it again.

I feel, much like 2001: A Space Odyssey, which it was desperately trying to emulate, it's not so much a movie as it is an experience. Just a series of Profound Things happening in sequence. It takes until Wrath of Khan for Star Trek to finally figure out how to make an actual goddamn movie.

# ? Mar 26, 2022 07:45