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Willa Rogers posted:
Voters don't care about a million very important issues. That doesn't mean they shouldn't have funding. What a stupid metric.
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Bottom Liner posted:Voters don't care about a million very important issues. That doesn't mean they shouldn't have funding. What a stupid metric. are we pretending that the president's budget is a real thing and not a messaging document again, I'm afraid I'm getting whiplash here
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Mar 29, 2022 20:23
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Willa Rogers posted:What's silly is emphasizing the spending for something voters have indicated they don't care about while not funding things they do care about, at a time when presidential ratings are wallowing in the crapper. This sounds like a terrible way to determine what to fund. Unless you don’t care about things such as education funding at all, since most people ranked its priority really low in this recent poll: https://graphics.reuters.com/USA-BIDEN/POLL/nmopagnqapa/
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theCalamity posted:https://twitter.com/danielmarans/status/1508830772446257160?s=21&t=yIVft7FiCik4Ae0iM4X3Ng He's trying to win as a Dem in Ohio. All he can do is run to the right, everyone else moves way.
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Mar 29, 2022 20:32
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Eric Cantonese posted:Sadly sounds like the dynamic plaguing the New York City specialized high school system too. There is no guarantee that socioeconomic advantages don't become greater when you take a test out of the equation. Did NYC eliminate all testing for those high schools? They are generally just public magnet schools or specialized tech schools that require some kind of math proficiency to enroll. Not sure how you would prove math proficiency without a test.
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Mar 29, 2022 20:36
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Some positive budget news for Indian Country- https://nativenewsonline.net/currents/president-biden-requests-historic-increase-in-bia-budget quote:The White House reports that it will direct $18.1 billion to the Department of Interior (DOI), an increase of $2.9 billion, or 19 percent, from the fiscal year 2022. The request for the DOI’s Indian Affairs programs is $4.5 billion, a $1.1 billion increase above the 2021 enacted level. This includes $2.8 billion for the Bureau of Indian Affairs, $1.6 billion for the Bureau of Indian Education, and $112.7 million for the Bureau of Trust Funds Administration. Interior Sec Haaland has been consulting directly with tribes and having an indigenous person in charge of Interior is hugely helpful in building better working relations. The additional funding for BIE and IHS are especially helpful since most funding for education and health in Indian Country is from those federal programs. The additional funding for Tribal police and courts is also badly needed. Tribal cops are almost universally required to be local tribal members themselves so there's less racialized police violence than typical for American cops. Tribal police and courts are chronically underfunded to the point that resources are triaged--a lot of domestic violence (as an example) doesn't get responded to because police are too busy dealing with other things. The court systems have huge delays because there aren't enough public defenders and judges so there's a backlog of people sitting in jails waiting for a court date. Stuff like that. edit: of course this is a wish list and not necessarily what will end up passing Congress.
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Harold Fjord posted:He's trying to win as a Dem in Ohio. All he can do is run to the right, everyone else moves way. The main problem Ohio Dems have is that they're incompetent, not that the voters are enormously right-wing. The last two Republican governors are pro-Biden (Kasich, who also said as governor that he can't face God when he dies and claim he is a good person if he also got in the way of healthcare) and pro-trans rights (DeWine). The last Democratic governor, Ted Strickland, took money meant to stop people from smoking and used it to cover the deficit, and basically every Democrat that's run for Governor or Senate since then (other than Sherrod Brown, who had the advantage of being defending a seat) has had connections to him (or literally been him), which is an easy way to lose because dunking on Strickland is basically an auto-win in statewide races in the general. It's a slightly Republican-leaning state with a well-run state party against an army of buffoons. The main positives for the Democrats going forward is that the Republicans are running out of Respectable 90s Politicians to coast to victory, and Democrats are running out of people with Strickland connections. rare Magic card l00k fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Mar 29, 2022 |
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Fritz the Horse posted:Some positive budget news for Indian Country- This appears to be another issue of trying to solve crime by pouring more money into law enforcement. The Tribal justice system may be overburdened, but having an apartheid-esque system with enforced, generational abject poverty is probably creating more issues than any amount of law enforcement funding can solve.
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Mar 29, 2022 21:01
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Kalit posted:This sounds like a terrible way to determine what to fund. Unless you don’t care about things such as education funding at all, since most people ranked its priority really low in this recent poll: https://graphics.reuters.com/USA-BIDEN/POLL/nmopagnqapa/ I see the economy and healthcare at the top, but nothing substantial is being done about those either. Education is probably pretty low on your list if you can't afford housing or to see a doctor.
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I'm fine with prosecuting 1/6 and am always surprised to see people here hand waving it and blowing it off as no big deal and a total joke
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Bishyaler posted:I see the economy and healthcare at the top, but nothing substantial is being done about those either. Education is probably pretty low on your list if you can't afford housing or to see a doctor. Ukraine is higher than healthcare and inequality is down near the bottom. I think the point is that claiming you shouldn't fund anything that only a small amount of Americans say is their top priority is a silly way to determine what has value.
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BiggerBoat posted:I'm fine with prosecuting 1/6 and am always surprised to see people here hand waving it and blowing it off as no big deal and a total joke if they were planning on prosecuting it, I'd have no issues, but as has been agonizingly clear since approximately 1/27, the Democrats have no interest in actually doing so the current strategy adopts a worst-of-both-worlds approach, mixing the Democrats making public shows of how terrified they were by the Capital Police letting a mob into the capital to do whatever they felt like, and the same party, in full control of the federal government, refusing to so much as lift a finger against the alleged coup plotters. as they were kind enough to demonstrate at the border, when some CIA dorks claimed the Russians were giving them tummyaches, and when the opportunity to move some guns into Ukraine presented itself: if the Democrats wanted to do something about this, they would have done something about it by now. they have not. they do not. they view it as a convenient thing to message on, and absolutely nothing more.
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Mar 29, 2022 21:20
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Eric Cantonese posted:Sadly sounds like the dynamic plaguing the New York City specialized high school system too. There is no guarantee that socioeconomic advantages don't become greater when you take a test out of the equation. When the rest of the equation is "legacies and sailing clubs", yeah. The fundamental problem is that the other factors are even MORE lovely, they could have substituted something better if they were willing to develop it. Turns out though, assigning a pass/fail value to 18-year-olds is basically bullshit, and regardless of how you choose to go about it you will end up making losers and winners on the basis of the miniscule amount of life experience and freedom that someone has at that age.
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Bishyaler posted:This appears to be another issue of trying to solve crime by pouring more money into law enforcement. The Tribal justice system may be overburdened, but having an apartheid-esque system with enforced, generational abject poverty is probably creating more issues than any amount of law enforcement funding can solve. Dept of Interior programs fund healthcare (IHS), education including through college (BIE), a wide variety of infrastructure, housing, and economic development (BIA) as well as directly supplying commodity foods (though that's FDPIR under USDA and not DoI). Yes, increasing funding for law enforcement doesn't address the underlying issues, however the proposed budget would also greatly increase funding to the above.
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Speaking of tribal issues, the state of NY has decided they've had enough of the Seneca nation not paying their bills and giving the state what they owe. https://buffalonews.com/news/local/...forts.%E2%80%9D quote:State officials are doubling down on efforts to collect more than $500 million they say the Seneca Nation owes New York under a casino revenue sharing agreement. Unrelated issue: https://sports.yahoo.com/bills-reach-deal-for-new-stadium-with-a-record-amount-of-taxpayer-money-funding-it-164653173.html quote:The staggering amount of public money going to the project “is far less than anyone had anticipated,” Hochul told the Buffalo News. The Buffalo News said there had been speculation taxpayers might need to give $1 billion to the project. The state of New York will give $600 million and Erie County will give $250 million to the project for Bills owners Terry and Kim Pegula.
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theCalamity posted:https://twitter.com/danielmarans/status/1508830772446257160?s=21&t=yIVft7FiCik4Ae0iM4X3Ng Oh good. Maybe we can copy things that China does such as nationalizations, five year plans, massive infrastructure spending, single payer healthcare, and abolish private land.
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theCalamity posted:https://twitter.com/danielmarans/status/1508830772446257160?s=21&t=yIVft7FiCik4Ae0iM4X3Ng Is I think you should leave already back?
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Jaxyon posted:Speaking of tribal issues, the state of NY has decided they've had enough of the Seneca nation not paying their bills and giving the state what they owe. $70 in tax from every citizen straight into the pockets of private capital. Wonder how big the kickback for that is.
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Willa Rogers posted:We can't even get up-to-date numbers on how many kids are still in the camps, much less media reportage on the conditions at the camps. Phoneposting rn so I'm not going to be able to do any fancy analysis, but to my surprise it turns out ORR has been releasing daily basic data on the children they're processing (by which I mean "number in facilities today and number discharged today) going back to March 2021. Don't know if they made it publicly accessible recently or if I just missed it last time. It's less important to me than the delayed monthly breakdown with more detailed info, but it's something. https://healthdata.gov/National/HHS-Unaccompanied-Children-Program/ehpz-xc9n fake edit: the orr data page has summarily keeled over and died on my phone for no discernable reason despite working fine the first time, so I guess I'll be glancing over the monthly data later then https://www.hhs.gov/programs/social-services/unaccompanied-children/index.html looks like you were correct that a couple hundred unaccompanied minors were housed at Fort Bliss as of December 2021 (reported by the el paso times), when I can look at the data I'll keep that in mind
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Jaxyon posted:Speaking of tribal issues, the state of NY has decided they've had enough of the Seneca nation not paying their bills and giving the state what they owe. It’s just straight privatization of public funds? We’re just peasants paying a tithe to the local lord for upgrades to his castle and so he can build a new coliseum.
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Thanks, GJB. I appreciate your research & look forward to your ongoing findings.
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th3t00t posted:I’ve never understood how public funding for privately owned sports teams works. The team owners still collect the revenue from the sale of tickets right? The state doesn’t get a cut, and they don’t charge enough rent for the teams use of the stadium to turn a surplus for the tax payers either right? The lie is that it brings enough tax revenue and jobs to the area to justify the payment. But most areas wised up to that lie and it largely doesn't work anymore.
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th3t00t posted:I’ve never understood how public funding for privately owned sports teams works. The team owners still collect the revenue from the sale of tickets right? The state doesn’t get a cut, and they don’t charge enough rent for the teams use of the stadium to turn a surplus for the tax payers either right? Stadiums and sports teams are very popular with voters. Teams can blackmail cities into funding the stadiums because other cities will legitimately offer to buy them for them if they don't and nobody wants to be the reason you lost your NFL team. Everyone also wants to open restaurants, stores, and businesses around the stadium to make money off of fans. There's evidence that stadiums generally have neutral or negative economic impacts on areas, but people want the sports and potential money from fans. That's it.
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Srice posted:https://twitter.com/CoreyRobin/status/1508602390240501769 The right is whining about his immigration budget. That does not of itself mean much, if he were turning 98% of immigrants into delicious sausage to alleviate the rise in meat prices they'd be complaining there were still 2% left, but it's entertaining.https://cis.org/Arthur/Biden-Moves-Cut-ICE-Detention The stuff emphasized in Mayorkas' summary statement is mostly good: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2022/03/28/statement-secretary-mayorkas-presidents-fiscal-year-2023-budget This summary thinks ICE is getting 8% less funding  seems... off https://www.boundless.com/blog/biden-requests-56-7-billion-dhs-2023-budget/Here's the Actual Detailed Budget Request: https://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/appendix/ Guess I have yet another immigration topic to pore over 
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The GOP will still shout about "Biden's Open Borders Policy" into the midterms and all the way to 2024. Biden will point out his budget increases for ICE. They will make fart noises with their mouth and win the 'discussion'. Then again, that's assuming the the DLC actually does this for theater, 'we can't look weak on immigration'. That's giving them a lot of credit. I'm starting to believe they are just on board with the Republicans on this topic, they'd just rather have the ugly part take place offscreen, while Ted Cruz must be about to introduce legislation legalizing shooting people at the border and selling pay-per-view of immigrant show trials as a way of balancing the budget.
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While I didn't dig into it terribly deeply, I did see a little discussion about the Alternatives To Detention the Biden admin seems to be pushing being overly invasive - ankle monitors and other surveillance. I'd be inclined to agree with that on first take, immigrants (and especially refugees) seem to have a really high probability of showing up for their review hearings. There was also a Montana DOJ case regarding Biden/Mayorkas shuttering a lot of deportations that led to a terrible injunction last week. e: at least some of the ICE funding is for Alternatives To Detention and staff to handle them, one thing that seems to definitely be consistent is that he wants to cut detention beds by a significant percentage, which is good there's no reason to incarcerate people awaiting their immigration review, even if we accept the current state of immigration court Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Mar 30, 2022 |
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I feel like there might be an impending misunderstanding about detention beds, so I'll get ahead of that. CBP detention is for new arrivals. It is terrible because CBP does not tend to select for people who give a drat about immigrants, never mind for people who want to make temporary detention centers as tolerable as possible. ORR facilities are for inprocessing of refugees, especially of unaccompanied children. They are vulnerable to the sorts of problems we're all familiar with at this point, including those similar to the foster care system, but notionally the staff are supposed to care about refugees. ICE detention facilities are mostly for detaining people awaiting their deportation hearings, and mostly shouldn't exist.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Phoneposting rn so I'm not going to be able to do any fancy analysis, but to my surprise it turns out ORR has been releasing daily basic data on the children they're processing (by which I mean "number in facilities today and number discharged today) going back to March 2021. Don't know if they made it publicly accessible recently or if I just missed it last time. It's less important to me than the delayed monthly breakdown with more detailed info, but it's something. https://healthdata.gov/National/HHS-Unaccompanied-Children-Program/ehpz-xc9n Your link shows only a 10% decrease from last year.
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Blaming china for why the US is ~~falling behined~~ is so hilarious. Maybe it's because the profit margin is held over all social duties other than law which stands as a guard to the capitalist?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Did NYC eliminate all testing for those high schools? They keep talking about adjusting the admissions criteria and transitioning away from the SHSAT, but nobody has a good alternative setup. (No one has a palatable explanation on why various ethnic groups do better on the SHSAT versus others and how to balance that out fairly since making the application more interview-centric seems to only advantage white children.) No matter what move you make, you're going to piss off a pretty substantial voting block. https://ny.chalkbeat.org/2022/3/4/22961972/nyc-high-school-admissions-changes-david-banks https://newyorkschooltalk.org/2022/02/finally-even-the-nyt-admits-whats-really-needed-to-diversify-specialized-high-schools/
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Blaming china for why the US is ~~falling behined~~ is so hilarious. That and the workers are essentially slaves and nobody has to give a poo poo about safety, pollution or jack poo poo relating to the environment. It's basically the GOP's and every CEO's wet dream for where to take capitalism.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Your link shows only a 10% decrease from last year. looks like available monthly-breakdown data only goes up to december 2021, so as compared to my previous look in november or whatever it's not terribly useful oh, there we go, i think i know what caused me to misapprehend the Fort Bliss situation: i was looking at Tender Age numbers, not the undisplayed absolute Unaccompanied Children numbers (which, in fairness, I noted as a possible source of error at the time  )looks like Fort Bliss (and the other remaining active emergency intake ORR facility as of December 2021) was / is? being used to house 13-18 year olds, then, and a negligible or zero number of younger kids... which is better than the alternative, i suppose
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Did NYC eliminate all testing for those high schools? Also: --Kids in NYC already have to take standardized state tests --Teachers are supposed to maintain portfolios --Kids have transcripts While it might require work, there absolutely are ways to gage student performance and mastery. The issue isn't also about basic math proficiency. The SHSAT math section will often have esoteric logical thinking questions like: Matthew was born March 2nd. His eleventh birthday is on a Wednesday this year, how many more birthdays will he have on a Wednesday before he's fifty? Or poo poo like that. The problem is a lot of these problem types get predictable and there are tutors who can really prepare you to make these problem types that are supposed to involve creative thinking more a matter of memorization like solving a Rubik's Cube. Meanwhile there are kids who just go in with their wits and just have to actually figure it out. Some of them figure it out, but proficiency is way underselling things. I teach at a high performing middle school, but only one of my students made into Stuyvesant and he was one of three Black children in the entire city to do so that year. It's incredibly, incredibly competitive and a lot of kids who are more than proficient in math, but not given the same resources at home or in school do not get in.
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there was also a spike in December from average time in care of 30 days (two weeks too long, imo) to 47 (statutorily unacceptable, never mind morally) e: average time in care is imo the single most important statistic, if i had to pick one; spending 24 hours in crummy conditions (say, a CBP outpost where the nicest person on the staff doesn't especially care whether you're alive except insofar as it impacts their metrics) sucks, but spending 30 days in somewhat better conditions is probably worse Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Mar 30, 2022 |
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Never has a former president asked a hostile foreign power to release information on a current president and his family. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/29/politics/trump-putin-hunter-biden/index.html
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Cimber posted:Never has a former president asked a hostile foreign power to release information on a current president and his family. I've mostly moved away from following politics for my mental health, but I happened to see this on Twitter and was literally screaming at my screen "HOW CAN ANYONE SUPPORT THIS GUY". We've become such a cartoon of hypocrisy since 2016.
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Cimber posted:Never has a former president asked a hostile foreign power to release information on a current president and his family. He didn't get in trouble when he secretly conspired with Russia, so he's going to try it out in the open. The fact that this won't affect his chance to become president really sucks.
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Main Paineframe posted:It's too early to say anything for sure, except that 2024 is going to suck no matter what, but at least there's a chance of it being funny. That article's narrative of "he's an absolute black hole of charisma who refuses to interact with human beings, but he checks all the right boxes, our loyalist media loves him, and party officials are excited for his middle-management energy" sounds eerily similar to what was being written about some of the more obviously sideshow candidates in the 2020 Dem primary. But if DeSantis ends up underperforming, he's going to flame out a lot more entertainingly than the likes of Buttigieg or Harris did. DeSantis is at best going to serve the role of Jeb!, Cruz, and the other assorted useless hobgoblins that Trump pulverised in the 2016 R primaries like a leadup to goddamn Wrestlemania.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:DeSantis is at best going to serve the role of Jeb!, Cruz, and the other assorted useless hobgoblins that Trump pulverised in the 2016 R primaries like a leadup to goddamn Wrestlemania. He mostly avoids personally getting involved in controversial issues and leaves it to underlings. But he’s been able to accomplish most of his goals here in FL. The courts have blocked some of it, but a lot of it succeeded.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Personally I think DeSantis is way more dangerous than Trump Also he's able to conduct himself in public in a way that is acceptable to people whose main objection to Trump was his aesthetics. That's another factor that definitely shouldn't be underestimated.
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