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OddObserver posted:Everyday upper middle class Russians may have to vacation in Turkey and not France! Fun fact Turkey has a vested interest in weakening Russia to bolster itself as a regional power and get enough leverage to renegotiate the straits agreement it's in so it can rent seek.
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Inferior Third Season posted:
I would hotglue paracord to each one, unwind it 100m and attach the other end to a vehicle and then slowly drag them all off the road.
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CommieGIR posted:We know they have excellent coverage over Poland and Ukraine because the radar can be detected by satellite. I'm sure they do but it's not gonna help against low-flying helicopters. And supposedly russian SAMs have been getting chewed up by TB2s as well lol.
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Apr 1, 2022 15:32
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Russia sends Mi-28s and get shot in the balls. Ukraine sends Mi-24s and shoots Russian balls. God drat it's a fucken Tom Clancy novel if they actually used downed Russian aircrafts IFF systems... Most likely 'just' a cheeky 50km rush into invaders borders to do a classic resource strike and get out. Ghost of Kyiv lives!
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CommieGIR posted:We know they have excellent coverage over Poland and Ukraine because the radar can be detected by satellite. I expect it's being jammed, spoofed, startled, hacked and threatened 24/7 by western forces. It was fun seeing the Patriot radar blasting Ukraine air space when it got set up a few weeks ago, but the posts seems to have stopped.
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CommieGIR posted:Its more suprising because Russia supposedly has really good radar and AA coverage, but apparently didn't expect Helicopters vs medium to high altitude aircraft. Whatever happened to Matthias Rust, by the way?
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Just Another Lurker posted:I would hotglue paracord to each one, unwind it 100m and attach the other end to a vehicle and then slowly drag them all off the road. Or loop a rope around them and only pull it into contact with the mines when you are way the gently caress away from them.
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After he was pardoned and released from Soviet prison: Wikipedia posted:While doing his obligatory community service (Zivildienst) in a West German hospital in 1989, Rust stabbed a female co-worker who had rejected him. The victim barely survived. He was convicted of injuring her and sentenced to two and a half years in prison, but was released after 15 months.[15] Since then he has lived a fragmented life, describing himself as a "bit of an oddball".[16] After being released from court, he converted to Hinduism in 1996 to become engaged to a daughter of an Indian tea merchant.[17] In 2001, he was convicted of stealing a cashmere pullover and ordered to pay a fine of DM10,000, which was later reduced to DM600.[8][15] A further brush with the law came in 2005, when he was convicted of fraud and had to pay a €1,500 fine.[15] In 2009 Rust described himself as a professional poker player.[18] Most recently, in 2012, he described himself as an analyst at a Zurich-based investment bank.[16]
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Humphreys posted:Ghost of Kyiv lives! I feel like when this is all over the Ukrainian Air Force needs to offer their pilots a Ghost of Kyiv campaign patch or medal or something.
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Just Another Lurker posted:I would hotglue paracord to each one, unwind it 100m and attach the other end to a vehicle and then slowly drag them all off the road. Demining is very dangerous, there is a reason it's the penal labor in lue of execution option of choice for despots. Lethal radius on those mines could be supprisingly large Proper tool would be electric blasting caps, a trigger box and a long wire. Call your patriotic construction or mining supply company.
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CommieGIR posted:Its more suprising because Russia supposedly has really good radar and AA coverage, but apparently didn't expect Helicopters vs medium to high altitude aircraft. It's basically impossible to detect a couple helicopters flying at extreme low altitudes on radar. It would be very hard to get a missile lock on them with their AA systems at that altitude if they could detect it. If you had a AA gunner or a guy with a MANPAD ready and watching you could take them out but you have maybe 60-90 seconds of encounter time before they have bugged out. You add in that most of the locals and guards wouldn't have likely thought twice about seeing Mi-24s until they started firing upon the depot. By the time anyone could have done anything in retaliation they would be fence out.
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Dispatches from Russian propaganda today - please note that all non-news programming is essentially cancelled in Russia right now. This is all they get. Nary a cooking show or children's cartoon to be seen. It's very cool. Not that different from Fox news  https://twitter.com/francska1/status/1509842446485753858?s=20&t=Uf-_iZyHM5a_q0zRx8yQtQ The pivot begins https://twitter.com/francska1/status/1509874007654514693?s=20&t=Uf-_iZyHM5a_q0zRx8yQtQ The US is to blame! How 'long ago' did it have to start if it's 'Biden's war'??? https://twitter.com/francska1/status/1509899126036705298?s=20&t=Uf-_iZyHM5a_q0zRx8yQtQ The account I'm posting from follows Russian Propaganda for the BBC, so it's an interesting follow if you want to see what's on TV in Russia. edit: corrected why the account posted subjects himself to this nonsense
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Djarum posted:It's basically impossible to detect a couple helicopters flying at extreme low altitudes on radar. It would be very hard to get a missile lock on them with their AA systems at that altitude if they could detect it. If you had a AA gunner or a guy with a MANPAD ready and watching you could take them out but you have maybe 60-90 seconds of encounter time before they have bugged out. You add in that most of the locals and guards wouldn't have likely thought twice about seeing Mi-24s until they started firing upon the depot. By the time anyone could have done anything in retaliation they would be fence out. Ironically, some Ukrainian units are more prepared to this since there were shipments of that Polish MANPAD that’s build for hitting low flying helicopters “off the hip”. Piorun, a modernisation of Grom, Polish Igla derivative.
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CommieGIR posted:Its more suprising because Russia supposedly has really good radar and AA coverage, but apparently didn't expect Helicopters vs medium to high altitude aircraft. The officers in charge of Russia's air defense were too busy fighting off the massive hordes of cockroaches in their housing to notice the helicopters.
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KitConstantine posted:Dispatches from Russian propaganda today - please note that all non-news programming is essentially cancelled in Russia right now. This is all they get. Nary a cooking show or children's cartoon to be seen. Did you notice the big Z projected on the floor of that talk show? So weird.
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wet_goods posted:Sunflower curse lady has a ridiculous KDR right now Oh, yes, remember that? At the time I thought the Russians would just walk to the capital, raise a flag and declare victory within a week.
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smug n stuff posted:Kofman's take on withdrawal/retreat/rout We will known soon enough, no need to speculate when proof of the state of the pullout will be evident in a matter of days (ie prisoner numbers, how much intact equipmentis left etc). I doubt any large numbers will be trapped though. They have been moving out since the beginning of the week and likely prioritized the most valuable troops as well.
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CeeJee posted:Can it be a Starstreak ? These have a tiny warhead and seem to rely on kinetic energy from a hit of one or the three sub-missiles. I had the same thought. But they’re called “hittles” (not even kidding, this is how Starstreak promotional literature refers to them)
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KitConstantine posted:Dispatches from Russian propaganda today - please note that all non-news programming is essentially cancelled in Russia right now. This is all they get. Nary a cooking show or children's cartoon to be seen. Hungarian journalist went and watched RT for a whole day and wrote down his experiences. Article in English: https://telex.hu/english/2022/04/01/i-watched-russian-propaganda-for-a-whole-day-even-hungarys-public-media-is-easier-to-stomach
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Interesting meeting - the brother of the mayor of Kyiv and Olaf Scholz. Hopefully he's going home with a goodie bag. https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1509880711213375493?s=20&t=kBqKbxD3uDk-OVVGJ2nLeA Yes I could have directly linked to the tweet but here's the thing this is funnier Edit: He's also commander of Kyiv's territorial defense. His past career doesn't play into this meeting KitConstantine fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Apr 1, 2022 |
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KitConstantine posted:Interesting meeting - the brother of the mayor of Kyiv and Olaf Scholz. Hopefully he's going home with a goodie bag. Is Scholz very small, or have there been several giant heavyweight boxers defending Kyiv?
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I would say the withdrawal from Kyviv looks similar to the WW2 British withdrawal to Dunkirk only less well done, majority of the men escaping but losing most of their armour & vehicles.
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I'm actually kinda concerned about the future after this war. Like back in WW2 one of the big things was delivering a total defeat to the Axis powers to prevent any future "stab in the back" myths like from WW1, making it absolutely, entirely, and completely crystal clear that they lost, they lost hard, and that ultimately the future they were fighting for was a pretty twisted one - and that wasn't possible without completely and utterly destroying the armed forces of the Axis and totally occupying the nation to both impose terms and to provide access to worldwide news about what the hell was actually happening outside of state propaganda. But now that nukes are in play that won't and can't happen. You might beat back an invasion, as Ukraine might possibly do, but you can't go into the aggressive nation anymore and shove the truth down their throats. The propaganda networks will still exist, the state narratives will still be spinning their stories, and they've got every incentive to try and paint this as a reason to get mad, to get angry, and to seek revanchist goals (and not of course to get mad at the regime). I'm a bit worried that short of total Russian governmental collapse (which isn't particularly desirable either!) we're going to end up with a Russia constantly brain-poisoning itself and constantly seeking both excuses and opportunities to "attack the West" that's only going to get worse as a new generation raised on a steady diet of propaganda comes into power and the lunatics start running the asylum.
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Morrow posted:Is Scholz very small, or have there been several giant heavyweight boxers defending Kyiv? Well, that dude and his brother who is the mayor.
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wet_goods posted:Sunflower curse lady has a ridiculous KDR right now Curses are real and powerful. I would not test my chances in a war if some old lady cursed me.
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https://www.facebook.com/100064468758856/posts/341665284659094/?app=fbl Oh poo poo, Ivankiv is in Ukranian hands according to these guys (MFA). Goon wet dreams of encirclement come true! They ought to have bagged some Russians.
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Morrow posted:Is Scholz very small, or have there been several giant heavyweight boxers defending Kyiv? I guess I should have explained the joke better - yes the guy pictured and his brother Kyiv's mayor are former heavyweight boxers. The best to ever do it, by most accounts. They're both like 6'7" or something. That's what I get for using comedic understatement :P
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MikeC posted:https://www.facebook.com/100064468758856/posts/341665284659094/?app=fbl They could have evacuated the pocket... but a withdrawal in the face of the enemy is literally the most difficult thing to try to do in a war, so it would imply a fairly significant increase in Russian C&C. e: also apparently they still haven't organised a single joint commander. https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1509876701580468224 Alchenar fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Apr 1, 2022 |
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Tomn posted:Russia constantly brain-poisoning itself and constantly seeking both excuses and opportunities to "attack the West" that's only going to get worse as a new generation raised on a steady diet of propaganda comes into power and the lunatics start running the asylum. South Ossetia in 1991, Transnitrisia in 1992, Abkhazia in 1993, Georgian war in 2008, Crimea and Donbas 2014, now entire Ukraine, with first warnings towards Sweden and Finland being the next. Wouldn't call that exactly a change in behavior.
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Still not sure what this is trying to say. https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1509911763222937600 Russia's not in a war but if anyone talks about the war Russia's not fighting they can have their stuff seized.
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Der Kyhe posted:Well, that dude and his brother who is the mayor. Also Vasiliy Lomachenko, and briefly Usyk though he is back to boxing.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Still not sure what this is trying to say. I believe this is about a law passed by the Ukrainian parliament allowing them to seize the properly of non-Russians in Ukraine who are supporting the war. Most likely the property of Ukrainians who were collaborating with the Russians.
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Tomn posted:I'm actually kinda concerned about the future after this war. Like back in WW2 one of the big things was delivering a total defeat to the Axis powers to prevent any future "stab in the back" myths like from WW1, making it absolutely, entirely, and completely crystal clear that they lost, they lost hard, and that ultimately the future they were fighting for was a pretty twisted one - and that wasn't possible without completely and utterly destroying the armed forces of the Axis and totally occupying the nation to both impose terms and to provide access to worldwide news about what the hell was actually happening outside of state propaganda. Don't really give a poo poo as long as everyone in Europe is safe from these assholes through collective defense. Let them rot in their fascist shithole until it all comes crashing down again from the rot and grift like the Soviet Union did. It's just another Belarus/Iran/North Korea/Zimbabwe in the world now.
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This belongs here, in the c-spam war thread (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Humphreys posted:Russia sends Mi-28s and get shot in the balls. I was watching Akulas tilt-dumping dummy rockets into forests a few weeks ago because so many of Russia's choppers were getting shot down. Now Ukraine can run a chopper strike on Russian territory. What the gently caress.
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Mustard Iceman posted:They really ought to have been more clear about which Parliament did this. In the English-speaking world, people's minds default to the UK, but a while bunch of countries have a Parliament ... It's a Kyiv newspaper. They would identify the country the Parliament is in if it wasn't Ukrainian, most likely. But since they're a Ukrainian paper in Ukraine it's just "Parliament" to them. It's pretty Anglo-centric to assume that any time Parliament is referenced it's discussing the UK
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rear end cobra posted:This belongs here, in the c-spam war thread Far, far, far too much effort went into this. deep breaths.
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