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SIGSEGV posted:The Castrato Sea seems like the sort of place that has an interesting mythological origin for its name, like the Aegean Sea. I certainly woudn't have the balls to cross it.
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# ? May 15, 2024 17:18 |
Hold up, I can just do this?? I just need to have an Ensanguined Rood in my inventory and I can freely class change a generic into an Angel Knight?! This One Vision mod keeps getting better!
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 23:41 |
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While we hold our breath waiting for the last chapter, is anyone playing Triangle Strategy? I just realised moments ago that it came out today, but I can't justify buying it with my RPG backlog (same reason for BG3 and the new Pathfinder).
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# ? Mar 5, 2022 02:47 |
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JustJeff88 posted:While we hold our breath waiting for the last chapter, is anyone playing Triangle Strategy? I just realised moments ago that it came out today, but I can't justify buying it with my RPG backlog (same reason for BG3 and the new Pathfinder). I've had it preloaded since last night and am excited to play it once I get done with work. I technically still need to finish Bravely Default II (I got the bad ending so far, at least), buuuuuuut.....shiny.
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# ? Mar 5, 2022 03:17 |
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Apparently Square Enix has trademarked "Tactics Ogre: Reborn": https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1512088449783721987
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# ? Apr 7, 2022 16:38 |
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Solumin posted:Apparently Square Enix has trademarked "Tactics Ogre: Reborn": https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1512088449783721987 If it's the PSP version include some QoL fixes for crafting, skill leveling, and the whole "new jobs join you at level 1, the unit was level 30 in the fight just now? gently caress you" leveling tedium. Also make Dragon Magic OP like the PSX version because it's not like the CODA won't still take an eternity to finish.
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# ? Apr 7, 2022 17:20 |
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Here's to it not being some NFT collection of concept art.
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# ? Apr 7, 2022 20:32 |
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SIGSEGV posted:Here's to it not being some NFT collection of concept art. https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1512089029419810833 99% sure it'll be the PSP version, perhaps with some upscaling if they are feeling frisky. The good news is that, even if they don't make any real QOL improvements, it being on PC would make it easier to mod...
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# ? Apr 7, 2022 21:06 |
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Bring all of the games back on PC!
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# ? Apr 8, 2022 00:35 |
Prowler posted:https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1512089029419810833 Hope it's real and looking forward to it
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# ? Apr 8, 2022 00:44 |
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I wouldn't mind a serious attempt at giving the Ogre series new life beyond just an update of a remake but that's not even a faint hope. Triangle Strategy is interesting but it doesn't have the same flavor to it.
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# ? Apr 8, 2022 01:27 |
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At the risk of sounding an idiot, which one are they remaking? The only one I've ever really played is the PSP one. I know that there was one on the N64; thus ends my knowledge of the series.
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# ? Apr 8, 2022 03:54 |
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I’ve had this on my Vita for years but never played it, so I’m pumped if this comes to PC. Speaking of which, I should also play Final Fantasy Tic Tacs at some point.
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JustJeff88 posted:At the risk of sounding an idiot, which one are they remaking? The only one I've ever really played is the PSP one. I know that there was one on the N64; thus ends my knowledge of the series. Ok, assuming they are remaking "Tactics Ogre". As far as I know there are only two "Tactics Ogre" games. The original Let Us Cling Together on PSX, and the prequel Knight of Lodis on GBA. The SNES and N64 games were all "Ogre Battle" games. The PSX Let Us Cling Together was remade on PSP, also titled Let Us Cling Together. It's often considered the definitive, and is certainly the most well known Ogre game. So to hazard a guess, it's probably going to be a remake of Let Us Cling Together. However, given the recent Chrono Cross Radical Dreamers re-release, there is a non-zero chance that it will also contain Knight of Lodis.
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# ? Apr 8, 2022 05:45 |
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akkristor posted:Ok, assuming they are remaking "Tactics Ogre". Nope. The original Tactics Ogre was a SNES game that was ported to PSX, hence the weird and terrible lag before many actions.
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akkristor posted:Ok, assuming they are remaking "Tactics Ogre". I can’t imagine they’d re-remake LUCT since the PSP version is already a perfect remake save for the grindier poo poo. Gotta figure it’s a release on newer systems but it’ll be largely the same game.
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FairGame posted:I can’t imagine they’d re-remake LUCT since the PSP version is already a perfect remake save for the grindier poo poo. Gotta figure it’s a release on newer systems but it’ll be largely the same game. Which in and of itself is a boon. I can't play a PSP/GBA/early DS anymore, all due to the same reasons: ergonomics.
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# ? Apr 8, 2022 15:32 |
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If I was to play one game, should I choose Final Fantasy Tactics or Tactics Ogre? I know there’s others like Disgaea and Fire Emblem, but those don’t look or feel the same to me. And I guess Triangle Strategy is kinda in that Tactics mold also?
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# ? Apr 8, 2022 16:28 |
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FFT is near and dear to my heart but the job system can be overwhelming. However the story is linear and one play though will get you the vast majority of the story beats. The only real missables are some equipment that can be stolen from enemies and a couple optional characters Tactics Ogre is a bit more focused in its class system and (until it’s not) but is branching paths and you can miss tons of characters, gear, and story unless you follow a guide and get real grindy.
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# ? Apr 8, 2022 17:06 |
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The problem with grind, in my opinion, is the fact that it's all fighting the RNG. Sure, I've played tedious MMOs like EverQuest where you kill the same monsters infinitely for hours for tiny rewards, but the other kind of grind, which is admittedly very common in MMOs also, is where it's about doing the same thing over and over until random chance smiles. RNGesus, I've heard it called. It's a terrible, game-padding bunch of bullshit that's a relic from decades ago yet does not have the good sense to die. Rewards should be deterministic or, at the very very least, every failed attempt should increase the likelihood of success.
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# ? Apr 8, 2022 19:03 |
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Final Fantasy Tactics, I think, is a bit more fun than Tactics Ogre thanks to the classes, but Tactics Ogre has the better overall package (a ton of recruitable characters, different branches, endings; the remake has NG+ a ton of side quests, even more characters, more in-depth mechanics (weather, tile changes based on attacks, stat changes based on the tile you're standing on, etc)). Give the demo a try if you're curious about Triangle Strategy. I really enjoyed it--I don't regard it as highly as TO/FFT, but I also have to consider that nostalgia may have some effect on that judgement. Like Tactics Ogre, it has tile-based manipulation (e.g. burning grass) and stat modification (e.g. grass increases evade), but takes the former a bit further (e.g. tiles that can be set on fire, water tiles that spread lightning). It also has branching paths based on choices, different endings, NG+ and NG++, weather manipulation. It just doesn't have as much customization as either game--individual units have their specialty, and they vary quite widely the farther you get into the game.
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# ? Apr 8, 2022 21:54 |
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I would argue that Triangle Strategy, with its characters having a more defined scope/wholly unique abilities rather than a job system, is closer to a Shining Force successor than it is to FFT or Fire Emblem. It only resembles FFT in the political intrigue, which is still much more low magic than FFT/Fire Emblem/LUCT.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I would argue that Triangle Strategy, with its characters having a more defined scope/wholly unique abilities rather than a job system, is closer to a Shining Force successor than it is to FFT or Fire Emblem. Maybe with the class system, yes, but the gameplay and mechanics are way closer to FFT/TO. It's isometric, speed-based (e.g. units have a turn order based on speed stat), tiles have height which affects attack and attack range, units get turn bonuses if no movement and/or action is taken, etc. That's in addition to the many similarities I listed above.
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# ? Apr 8, 2022 22:45 |
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If any of your are keen for competent if bland TRPGs, try the Mercenay Wings pentad on Switch. They are solid if unspectacular games in that genre. They are at least inexpensive and the first three, which were originally mobile games I believe, are bought together.quote:Give the demo a try if you're curious about Triangle Strategy. I really enjoyed it--I don't regard it as highly as TO/FFT, but I also have to consider that nostalgia may have some effect on that judgement. Like Tactics Ogre, it has tile-based manipulation (e.g. burning grass) and stat modification (e.g. grass increases evade), but takes the former a bit further (e.g. tiles that can be set on fire, water tiles that spread lightning). It also has branching paths based on choices, different endings, NG+ and NG++, weather manipulation. I couldn't justify buying this as my RPG backlog is so ludicrous, but has anyone heard anything about Arcadian Atlas? Another game in this tiny genre, with very nice visuals, but I haven't seen much hype about it. JustJeff88 fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Apr 8, 2022 |
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Captain Oblivious posted:I would argue that Triangle Strategy, with its characters having a more defined scope/wholly unique abilities rather than a job system, is closer to a Shining Force successor than it is to FFT or Fire Emblem. Shining force 1 & 2 & CD are bangers
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tithin posted:Shining force 1 & 2 & CD are bangers I think that Phantasy Star IV still holds up fairly well today. The remakes of 1 & 2 are quite good too. They were PS2 games in Japan only, but there aare English translations. PhSt 3 is an irredeemable train wreck, though.
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# ? Apr 9, 2022 01:32 |
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I'm too cynical, it seems. I saw the name being copyrighted and I immediately thought "I bet good money it's going to be a mobile phone gacha".
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 20:49 |
Canopus would be the best pull and I am not taking notes on this statement.
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# ? Apr 15, 2022 13:39 |
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If we're talking about other games in the genre, I have to bring up God Wars: Future Past, which not only has the distinction of having one of the worst names I've ever seen in gaming, but also just straight up has FFT's combat system (and something very similar to its class system, though every character as far as I got in it has their own unique class as well).
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ZCKaiser posted:If we're talking about other games in the genre, I have to bring up God Wars: Future Past, which not only has the distinction of having one of the worst names I've ever seen in gaming, but also just straight up has FFT's combat system (and something very similar to its class system, though every character as far as I got in it has their own unique class as well). Lame it’s on PS4. pc master race etc etc I also don’t love the art style Fake e: oh it’s on steam https://store.steampowered.com/app/1038810/GOD_WARS_The_Complete_Legend/
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# ? Apr 15, 2022 15:59 |
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https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10001956 New listing on the Playstation store for "Tactics Ogre: Reborn" and from the art it is a remake or remaster of Let Us Cling Together!
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 03:06 |
Can't see it
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 03:46 |
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Sony fixed their oop https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1536521962729549824 akkristor fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jun 14, 2022 |
# ? Jun 14, 2022 04:02 |
Let's loving gooooooo
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 04:10 |
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Sadly, I'm too old and jaded/forgetful, so I can't get excited about a game coming out in 2023/2024 and even if I could I will forget about this project within hours. I can barely remember that the new TMNT game is coming out this week.
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 04:17 |
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...but the 2010-2011 game was *already* a remake. What more is needed here?
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 04:25 |
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FairGame posted:...but the 2010-2011 game was *already* a remake. What more is needed here? Removal of The Pot
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 04:31 |
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It's probably an interest-gauging metric. A remake is significantly less expensive than a new development, but if it sells enough to justify a new installment we may get something new. The Secret of Mana and Trials of Mana remaster and remake a few years ago served that purpose, and we're supposed to be getting both a mobile side game and a mainline Mana game. (also hopefully they'll increase item drop rate and fix crafting)
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 04:31 |
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FoolyCharged posted:Removal of The Pot For a brief, bone-chilling moment I thought that you had said 'plot' and I was appalled.
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FairGame posted:...but the 2010-2011 game was *already* a remake. What more is needed here? A lot of QoL for the massive timesinks in the PSP version? Crafting needs to be "press button, get results" and ideally take and make the subcomponents for you if necessary. gently caress the RNG on CODa drops/appearances. Make them static for story progress. There game is long enough, it doesn't need to take 500+ hours to finish the game, ...speaking of finishing the game, we need a final update still that wraps up this LP right?
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