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Ive been on a dozen or so pointless search committees and it makes my concience hurt to call people in for first and second interviews when a candidate was unofficially chosen before the position was even posted Sometimes people would have to take days off of work for us to fly them in and put them up in a hotel, but they never had a chance in the first place I would assume that's basically every non-service job at this point
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Peanut President posted:wasn't there some study done that people who played lacrosse where like 10x more likely to be hired due to a fault in the "ai" program? It was a test hiring algorithm that a company was considering using, so they hired a third-party to do analysis on it. The algorithm was supposed to pick out "superstars" among the candidate pool. The analysis determined that the two things most likely to get a person designated a "superstar" were 1) being named Jared and 2) having played lacrosse in high school. I don't think it was ever actually implemented.
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Apr 11, 2022 18:34
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Peanut President posted:wasn't there some study done that people who played lacrosse where like 10x more likely to be hired due to a fault in the "ai" program? Yes, a "fault". You can train ai to be an old boys club member as well as being just a general racist.
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Apr 11, 2022 18:35
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Manager Hoyden posted:Ive been on a dozen or so pointless search committees and it makes my concience hurt to call people in for first and second interviews when a candidate was unofficially chosen before the position was even posted I'd enjoy the ability to have a nice hotel and free vacation but I'm not the kind of person that has the kind of job where they put you up for an interview. my worst interview memory was a "group interview" with me and like 20 other people all trying to get a prestigious job making burritos at chipotle
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Apr 11, 2022 18:42
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tokin opposition posted:I'd enjoy the ability to have a nice hotel and free vacation but I'm not the kind of person that has the kind of job where they put you up for an interview. lol they did this at UPS too. the interview process was basically getting a couple dozen applicants in a conference room, and then telling everyone "this job sucks, ok? you do not want to work here. the work is going to destroy your body, working weird hours will destroy your mind, and working in a giant concrete building with no windows will destroy your spirit. so - any takers?"
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Apr 11, 2022 18:45
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Ham Equity posted:It was a test hiring algorithm that a company was considering using, so they hired a third-party to do analysis on it. The company was amazon specifically
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Apr 11, 2022 18:47
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:lol they did this at UPS too. the interview process was basically getting a couple dozen applicants in a conference room, and then telling everyone "this job sucks, ok? you do not want to work here. the work is going to destroy your body, working weird hours will destroy your mind, and working in a giant concrete building with no windows will destroy your spirit. so - any takers?" Postal service does the same thing, plus it was for a temp gig with no guarantee of future employment!
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Apr 11, 2022 18:55
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tokin opposition posted:I'd enjoy the ability to have a nice hotel and free vacation but I'm not the kind of person that has the kind of job where they put you up for an interview. group interviews loving blow. there's always at least a few people trying to upstage everyone else and they always come off as unhinged.
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Apr 11, 2022 18:57
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My worst interview ever was at a staffing company who told me that they had 50 people quit in my position in the past year. I asked them why that happened and they said "because they sucked" I didn't want or get a callback from that one
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Apr 11, 2022 18:59
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my first job interview at 16 was at a chain supermarket. i mean, i thought it was an interview, but it was actually signing the paperwork for the job. after i got the job, the store manager, an asian man, asked me if i, a nerdy white teenager, was chinese. i told him no
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Apr 11, 2022 19:02
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if you don't ask you can't be sure
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Apr 11, 2022 19:03
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Biplane posted:If you unfurl an admiralty flag as you enter the interview room you're legally entitled to any job in the company.
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Apr 11, 2022 19:18
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Ham Equity posted:I did interviews several months ago, and as part of the anonymization process, they took the resumes and converted them to basic text.
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Apr 11, 2022 19:40
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You guys send application materials in an editable format? I wouldn't dream of sending a finalized document without first pdf'ing it.
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Apr 11, 2022 20:05
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HootTheOwl posted:Word Documents are XML files, surely there's a place I can stash the keywords that will sneak by the processor but not make it to the plaintext. White text at the bottom of the page.
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Apr 11, 2022 20:09
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Peanut President posted:wasn't there some study done that people who played lacrosse where like 10x more likely to be hired due to a fault in the "ai" program? brb adding some more white text to my resume next to "harvard" "yale" "facebook" and "google"
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Apr 11, 2022 20:13
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Plank Walker posted:my first job interview at 16 was at a chain supermarket. i mean, i thought it was an interview, but it was actually signing the paperwork for the job. after i got the job, the store manager, an asian man, asked me if i, a nerdy white teenager, was chinese. i told him no At 17 I interviewed for a job at a local chocolate shop. The posting had been for a cashier position. After what seemed to be a positive interview, the manager told me I was hired. I was so happy! Then he told me the job was not a cashier position, it was standing beside the busy four lane road outside the chocolate shop wearing a full chef's outfit and holding an advertising sign.
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Apr 11, 2022 20:14
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at my first job, I witnessed a child trip and come dangerously close to gauging his eye out on a protruding metal object in a specifically child-oriented area (child was fine). thinking I was being an upstanding employee, I took a picture of the object and emailed my boss with a description of the incident and a friendly recommendation on how to cheaply resolve the potential hazard. he came storming up to me at my next shift and threatened to fire me unless I let him watch me login to my email and delete the message from my outbox. the next time I was in the child area I saw a small piece of foam duct-taped to the tip of the dangerous metal object (not what I recommended)
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Apr 11, 2022 20:24
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jeebus bob posted:You guys send application materials in an editable format? I haven’t applied for a job in a decade but I remember that they all specified what formats they accepted and explicitly disallowed PDFs
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Apr 11, 2022 20:29
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putting "enormous lady dong" in off-white 2pt font just to gently caress with HR
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Apr 11, 2022 20:30
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tokin opposition posted:putting "enormous lady dong" in off-white 2pt font just to gently caress with HR This is what that goon who advertises resume services does. Boosts callback rates 75%
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indigi posted:I haven’t applied for a job in a decade but I remember that they all specified what formats they accepted and explicitly disallowed PDFs
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yeah, PDF is the safer choice since you don’t have to worry about what it’ll look like on the reviewer’s computer or tablet or phone the dumb thing about resume chat is that it only matters for entry level jobs. if you’re trying to apply for jobs mid career through blind drops, you’re kind of hosed to begin with
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if someone is going to put in the effort to learn how to open pdfs it doesn't sound like they're cut out to be a boss
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Apr 11, 2022 20:48
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tokin opposition posted:putting "enormous lady dong" in off-white 2pt font just to gently caress with HR you don't need to include "dong", hell, you can skip all 3 words and just legally rename yourself to "lady dimitrescu" and get a 100% hire rate
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I send my resume in jpeg format
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e: Never mind everyone got to yelling about PDF's before me
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Danaru posted:I send my resume in jpeg format i had to redo mine after most computers stopped playing .swf files
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My last job involved deep knowledge of ms office inner working bullshit and I came away from it realizing just what a hell gently caress file format and set of programs the whole thing is. Lotta people don't realize that Office files aren't meant to be some sort of system-agnostic format and the weirdest poo poo can totally mess up a file. Like Office will reformat how a file is displayed based on your default printer settings in some cases so if you just open a file on another computer (with the same version of office and everything) it can get all weird for apparently no reason. And then we get yelled at by a bank that their slide deck is Wrong and this is in Violation of Compliance Laws and etc.
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But the alternative was to risk having to see a black person during their morning commute, how could they NOT form an HOA?
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Peanut President posted:wasn't there some study done that people who played lacrosse where like 10x more likely to be hired due to a fault in the "ai" program? Probably just uncontrolled variable correlation with them being white and rich. e: related, when I was a junior in college I got a call to interview with a company I don't recall even submitting a resume with. Two other guys in my class also got the call and one had a car so he drove. This dude was the biggest try-hard in class and wore a nice suit to the interview whereas I wore a polo and cargo pants. On the car ride home I got a call like 15 minutes into the hour-and-a-half drive and he did not. It was very awkward. Salvor_Hardin has issued a correction as of 22:58 on Apr 11, 2022 |
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Probably just uncontrolled variable correlation with them being white and rich. likely that. I ran analytics for an insurance company for awhile. richer people pay less because they tend to have better access to healthcare, for example. poo poo’s baked in.
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I had an interview once that was going fairly well until she asked me if I was okay working on commission without a regular check. I told her "sorry, my labor isn't free, I need compensation." She immediately stood up and said "Ohh, I'm sorry we're looking for hard workers who want to earn what they get" before walking down the hall saying "nope nope nope nope nope nope nope" to no one in particular, leaving me alone in the interview room. About 6 weeks later I drove past and the place had a giant FOR LEASE sign out front because the company had folded.
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:I had an interview once that was going fairly well until she asked me if I was okay working on commission without a regular check. I told her "sorry, my labor isn't free, I need compensation." She immediately stood up and said "Ohh, I'm sorry we're looking for hard workers who want to earn what they get" before walking down the hall saying "nope nope nope nope nope nope nope" to no one in particular, leaving me alone in the interview room. Looks like they weren't hard workers who wanted to earn what they get
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Shame Boy posted:Looks like they weren't hard workers who wanted to earn what they get sounds like they earned exactly what they got, to me
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Danaru posted:But the alternative was to risk having to see a black person during their morning commute, how could they NOT form an HOA? Honkeys Of America is legit you guys
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Shame Boy posted:Looks like they weren't hard workers who wanted to earn what they get I like to think that she's gotta live the rest of her life like a schnook.
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One time I went to interview for a porter position at an apt complex and someone driving by screamed FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO WORK before I walked in, and during the interview they said uh actually this is less of a porter, more of a maintenance tech job, uh but at porter pay, and we'll need you to be 24hr on call for emergencies. The last guy was sleeping in his car in the parking garage because the security system was broken and he was guarding the place. Very new, modern looking building that was completely falling apart.
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Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:One time I went to interview for a porter position at an apt complex and someone driving by screamed FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO WORK before I walked in, and during the interview they said uh actually this is less of a porter, more of a maintenance tech job, uh but at porter pay, and we'll need you to be 24hr on call for emergencies. The last guy was sleeping in his car in the parking garage because the security system was broken and he was guarding the place. Very new, modern looking building that was completely falling apart. How did you like the job?
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