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48 | 42.48% |
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| UAP Majoirty |
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21 | 18.58% |
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bell jar posted:recoome swinging for the fences with the "unions are poo poo at campaigning politically" take not what i was really going for but (and this is from my own personal experience as a union member) it was definitely cool when we were being underpaid and hosed around as casual employees at a university and the NTEU literally went "lol, you're on your own kiddo" and made a great song and dance about how a stack of permanent members got a super increase at the expense of throwing casuals under the bus. Amazingly all the NTEU members in my faculty either were made redundant, got out of academia or have since moved overseas so i guess it was definitely worth it. As is public knowledge, universities are definitely great places to work right now, especially regarding pay and job security!
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Recoome posted:not what i was really going for but (and this is from my own personal experience as a union member) it was definitely cool when we were being underpaid and hosed around as casual employees at a university and the NTEU literally went "lol, you're on your own kiddo" and made a great song and dance about how a stack of permanent members got a super increase at the expense of throwing casuals under the bus. The nteu sounds hosed. Didn't they spend all their time looking after tenured and permanent employees and tell all the casuals to piss off or something on another occasion too? Who could have seen this being the outcome?
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Apr 13, 2022 02:17
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JBP posted:The nteu sounds hosed. Didn't they spend all their time looking after tenured and permanent employees and tell all the casuals to piss off or something? Who could have seen this being the outcome? Yeah, and it was a great play by university management too because the pool of permanent and tenured staff was, in real terms, diminishing so you ended up getting the NTEU on board with eroding workers rights until it was way too late and the NTEU nationally couldn't pivot fast enough, and it never real fed down into the local branch level by the time I left. I really hope that one day we have really strong unions again, you do see (as an outsider) some good advocacy coming from some of the nurses, teachers, and transport unions but I think we've all suffered from the sustained union-busting from government at different levels.
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Apr 13, 2022 02:23
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also some professional associations are loving shite at advocating for their members. the association for psychologists can't articulate a coherent point in 100 words or less, and it really shows
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Apr 13, 2022 02:25
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JBP posted:The nteu sounds hosed. Didn't they spend all their time looking after tenured and permanent employees and tell all the casuals to piss off or something on another occasion too? Who could have seen this being the outcome? Current EBA being negotiated at my University has the NTEU calling for a pathway for casuals into permanent part-time and full-time positions.
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Apr 13, 2022 02:28
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Recoome posted:I really hope that one day we have really strong unions again, you do see (as an outsider) some good advocacy coming from some of the nurses, teachers, and transport unions but I think we've all suffered from the sustained union-busting from government at different levels. Asking the thread in general: does anyone know which is the better union option for nurses - HACSU or ANMF? Or if there's a third option...
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Apr 13, 2022 02:32
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Current EBA being negotiated at my University has the NTEU calling for a pathway for casuals into permanent part-time and full-time positions. yeah and this is what they were shooting for with the super increase for casuals and promptly dropped it for an "ah well, we tried" moment. I'll believe there's proper advocacy for casuals when I see it.
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Apr 13, 2022 02:35
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Apr 13, 2022 02:48
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Voter who interrupted Anthony Albanese's press conference demands apology after ‘deeply offensive’ comments A voter who interrupted one of Opposition leader Anthony Albanese’s press conferences in Perth last week has demanded the Labor leader apologise for his comments following the incident. Speaking exclusively to Sky News Australia’s The Kenny Report host Chris Kenny, Mr Bernard revealed he had no connection to the truck which was organised by the political lobby group Advance Australia. “I had no connection with Advance Australia, I didn’t know the truck, I didn’t know the truck driver, just zero connection,” he said. Mr Bernard claimed he was not tied to any political party and has voted for both major parties as much as each other adding that the comments from the would-be prime minister called for an apology. “It was deeply offensive to me, just deeply offensive and subsequently I found it really disturbing that a man who presents himself as a leader for Australia when something even slightly tough comes up just makes up a story and throws the people under the bus,” he said.
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Apr 13, 2022 02:50
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:It's chattering classes level poo poo / media desperately trying to convince itself it's relevant that barely anyone is listening to anymore. Albo's "gaffe" aint changing anyone's minds. No, the singular "gaffe" itself might not change anything in particular. But the way that said gaffe allowed an easy way to change the narrative, (see the Waleed Aly "speaks of incompetence" thing), to a way that suits Morrisson and his "Don't trust Labor" spin might. Also one gaffe generally is nothing, but then said gaffe gets turned into a battering ram by constant repetition and the hammering of a favoured narrative as said in the paragraph before. So yeah, the Libs are awful and Morrisson is an incompetent oval office, but I fear this could snowball into something very ugly. Of course given how bad/stupid ScoMo is, he may well say/do something stupid that will get the press's eye. Or given the goldfish memory of the Press/public it could blow over.
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Apr 13, 2022 03:06
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You people are nuts if you think the common punter gives a poo poo about this. Nobody is listening to the media or Scomo, they've switched off.
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Apr 13, 2022 03:19
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https://twitter.com/Rob_Stott/status/1514048612057370626?t=FhSkVgC3ejSZEkMvO1Btyg&s=19 Surely we can do more than taking their teeth? Perhaps an arm as well?
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Apr 13, 2022 03:22
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Pleasant Friend posted:You people are nuts if you think the common punter gives a poo poo about this. 100% this
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Apr 13, 2022 03:27
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Pleasant Friend posted:You people are nuts if you think the common punter gives a poo poo about this. It filters through. Liberals are onto something now, they are going to ride it into Government. The good news is Labor is throwing the poors and other.minorities under the bus to save face, so there's still hope for the middle class politically disconnected and bankrupt to throw a few angry with the government votes their way. Really shits me when I vote greens and preference Labor as they drift further away from my preferred policies, but the media is to blame. The end of May cannot come fast enough
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Apr 13, 2022 03:31
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Janitor Ludwich IV posted:It filters through. Liberals are onto something now, they are going to ride it into Government. The good news is Labor is throwing the poors and other.minorities under the bus to save face, so there's still hope for the middle class politically disconnected and bankrupt to throw a few angry with the government votes their way. It would be nice to be able to exhaust House of Reps preferences as well as in the Senate if for whatever reason you didn't want to preference one or more parties at all.
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Apr 13, 2022 03:38
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Change the Rules was a poo poo campaign because it's target audience were union members or prospective union members, none of who needed convincing to preference Labor. This time around they're kinda hosed because Labor have no policies to get behind, so it's scomo in a Hawaiian shirt. If Labor weren't complete cowards they might have something else to work with idk. It probably still wouldn't matter because liberal and swing voters probably don't follow AustralianUnions on twitter.
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Apr 13, 2022 03:42
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SuddenCactus posted:https://twitter.com/Rob_Stott/status/1514048612057370626?t=FhSkVgC3ejSZEkMvO1Btyg&s=19 Gina Rinehart couldn't afford my chompers. I have teeth strong enough to eat other teeth,.
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Apr 13, 2022 03:45
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Don Dongington posted:Labor have no policies to get behind, https://www.alp.org.au/we-stand-for/policies-and-commitments/ HTH
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Apr 13, 2022 03:47
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industrial relations is one area where labor are only mediocre instead of total poo poo and at least have vague commitments (real wages growth, full employment, stopping wage theft, reversing casualisation of the work force) that they haven't totally abandoned yet so there is at least something for the unions to campaign on there https://twitter.com/cameronwilson/status/1514071904369659904 also lol
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Apr 13, 2022 03:53
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woofbro posted:
probably lol poo poo sucks
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Apr 13, 2022 03:57
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lmao the AEC is loving toothless literally nothing will happen
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Apr 13, 2022 04:01
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It feels like Australia is slipping into some sort of one party state where the suppression from the media will always be enough to keep Labor away from office.
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Apr 13, 2022 04:01
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If Labor loses this election, what's the take away? Can't win election with policies, can't win election without policies. Just dissolve the Labor party?
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Apr 13, 2022 04:11
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Konomex posted:If Labor loses this election, what's the take away? Can't win election with policies, can't win election without policies. Just dissolve the Labor party? 2019 was a narrow loss and they could've communicated their position a little better
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Apr 13, 2022 04:13
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lih posted:yeah it's just a weird goofy form of it that feels like it could be a lot more effective idk WHAT
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Apr 13, 2022 04:16
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BrigadierSensible posted:No, the singular "gaffe" itself might not change anything in particular. It changes the narrative because the people presenting the narrative are screaming "it changes the narrative". It's a stupid mistake and a bad look to be sure but speaks nothing about his ability to govern and speaks a lot about media in this country that it was more than a 30 second clip and a one day story. The travelling press pack are the laziest loving bunch of partisan hacks and overpaid stenographers and that's just the way the parties like it. Members of the press manufacturing "gotcha moments" are inserting themselves into the story and it shouldn't be called journalism.
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Apr 13, 2022 04:16
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Recoome posted:lmao the AEC is loving toothless literally nothing will happen Last election the libs put up fake AEC posters and the AEC were just like “lol no problem here” so yeah
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Apr 13, 2022 04:17
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:probably lol poo poo sucks Yeah todays been insufferable seeing journo after journo say “here’s my take, functions with politicians and journos is fine” without one actually addressing what the gatecrashed bought up - climate change and disaster relief - which could have been asked by a journo in the first place.
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Apr 13, 2022 04:17
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Gaffe gate!
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Apr 13, 2022 04:26
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Anidav posted:It feels like Australia is slipping into some sort of one party state where the suppression from the media will always be enough to keep Labor away from office. you might not like labors strategy of sitting quietly in the corner until the liberals get so fat and blatant they fall over by themselves but you have to admit it gets results
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Apr 13, 2022 04:40
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https://twitter.com/Paul_Karp/status/1514084738444582916 Pretty solid address overall.
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Apr 13, 2022 05:01
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Senor Tron posted:WHAT it's a real rort christensen previously was trying to get the LNP to formally disendorse him last year after he'd already announced his retirement so he could get it
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Apr 13, 2022 05:01
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Pleasant Friend posted:You people are nuts if you think the common punter gives a poo poo about this. Three million people watched free to air news on Monday night. E: not including regional
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Apr 13, 2022 05:20
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Seemlar posted:https://twitter.com/Paul_Karp/status/1514084738444582916 His full answer to that question is here: https://twitter.com/SimonBarnhill/status/1514090504392425477 And yeah good answer from one of the few aussie politicians I have any respect for.
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Apr 13, 2022 05:23
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Senor Tron posted:WHAT being a politician is hard okay, they need that money to wipe away the tears
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Apr 13, 2022 05:28
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Anidav posted:It feels like Australia is slipping into some sort of one party state where the suppression from the media will always be enough to keep Labor away from office. it's not suppression from the media keeping Labor from office -- it's Labor doing that
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Apr 13, 2022 05:29
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bell jar posted:it's not suppression from the media keeping Labor from office -- it's Labor doing that Ah I'd say little of column a little of column b. Or cures on both their houses. Which eves
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Apr 13, 2022 05:32
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not voting for the guy with the lisp is ableist is my hot take that will unify twitter against labor
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Apr 13, 2022 05:33
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bell jar posted:it's not suppression from the media keeping Labor from office -- it's Labor doing that Yeah sure.
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Anidav posted:It feels like Australia is slipping into some sort of one party state where the suppression from the media will always be enough to keep Labor away from office. as bad as the media & political situation are here they really don't seem to be at the level of the uk yet
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