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The amount of hate Owen Jones gets is absurd for someone who is at most a soft left melt and will never actually abandon the Labour Party. He’s astute enough to raise the problems and so gets it hard from the libs, but too timid to do anything about it so he gets it from the left too. And obviously the right will call him a communist as they do anyone who doesn’t want to just kill all foreigners.
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Noxville posted:The amount of hate Owen Jones gets is absurd for someone who is at most a soft left melt and will never actually abandon the Labour Party. He’s astute enough to raise the problems and so gets it hard from the libs, but too timid to do anything about it so he gets it from the left too. And obviously the right will call him a communist as they do anyone who doesn’t want to just kill all foreigners. Looks like Grace Blakeley is next in line to get it from both sides (err, so to speak). Which is a shame since she's always seemed fairly bang-on in her analysis from what I've seen
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 15:15 |
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https://twitter.com/LabourDesign/status/1514197212967886850?s=20&t=Dn8Rou0ty5k5uSAqzKGf2w Lots of fun could be had with this, I’m sure…
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 15:20 |
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josh04 posted:lol, the private eye piece on Owen Jones being referred to here is being wildly touted in his mentions by homophobic terfy types as a smoking gun that will put him away for good: It's a odd one. You can agree or disagree with guardians internal findings (calling someone a terf is not bullying imo) , but their most well know journalist behind found guilty of bullying IS a weird thing to try and hide from staff. I think it's worth PE running it though, and roll my eyes a little at the idea that PE criticising some cis white men who happen to be trans allies is proof of an anti-trans agenda by the private eye. (maybe it is anti-trans, I haven't read it in ages, but this isn't evidence of that)
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 15:21 |
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https://twitter.com/JewishNewsUK/status/1513912020164358145 'i attended so many debauched, themed orgies during that period that i can't reasonably be expected to remember whether i dressed up as a nazi or not' is certainly a novel defence
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 15:27 |
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I would suggest that the studious refusal to comment on the content of the articles he was responding to other than them being about "women's sex based rights" which is exactly what the terfs all claim to be very concerned about (except the actual sex based rights re: reproductive healthcare) certainly smacks rather heavily of them having an agenda. For example I assume this is the "cruel" tweet: https://twitter.com/owenjones84/status/1422516337306443782 You can look up sarah ditum if you like and decide for yourself if she is a terf, personally she certainly seems like one! OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Apr 13, 2022 |
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Answers Me posted:https://twitter.com/LabourDesign/status/1514197212967886850?s=20&t=Dn8Rou0ty5k5uSAqzKGf2w This is a fantastically bad idea.
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 15:30 |
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OwlFancier posted:For example I assume this is the "cruel" tweet: https://twitter.com/owenjones84/status/1422527649512103969?lang=en Not exactly the most damning stuff in the world.
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Unkempt posted:This is a fantastically bad idea. That's the finished product.
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 15:32 |
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If anyone wants to read this doubtless spectacular article by ditum to see whether she seems like she's a crock of poo poo, and can bypass the times paywall, feel free! https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-logic-of-trans-activism-leads-to-surreal-debate-but-the-grown-ups-are-fighting-back-ms9fxp7b3
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 15:34 |
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Many of the TERFs are so obviously spoilt that they think even the faintest disagreement with them is a violent attack. This goes for a lot of other groups too, of course.
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 15:36 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:And because I can't stop myself enthusing about old TV - it's another of those "Couldn't make it now" kinda shows not because of wokeness or some poo poo but because the figures of authority are the bad guys, and the prisoners regularly win small victories over them, and that just isn't allowed nowadays. It's odd just how much more authoritarian and status-quo-enforcing mass media has got since the 90s. It also perfected the alternative sitcom format a decade before people generally accepted it to have even started - this is a comedy about men in prison, not a suburban middle-class couple, and episodes like A Night In - which is literally the two main characters talking after lights out - are rightfully held up as genuine classics of acting and directing and completely subverting the norms of how sitcoms are supposed to be written and performed. I don't see how Porridge is in any way something you "couldn't make now". Didn't they literally do a modern remake relatively recently that was surprisingly well received?
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 15:40 |
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Jollity Farm posted:This goes for a lot of other groups too, of course.
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 15:41 |
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Porridge is never on Dave, it's on UKTV Gold.
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https://twitter.com/evilhornypingu/status/1514210492520321034
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Comrade Fakename posted:I don't see how Porridge is in any way something you "couldn't make now". Didn't they literally do a modern remake relatively recently that was surprisingly well received? I think the pilot was liked enough to get a series, but then that got trashed? Looks like the bbc cancelled it due to poor ratings. Despite having the original writers it seemed much worse. Much like Green Green Grass is awful compared to even later Only Fools.
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Graduates face 'eye-watering' 12% interest rate on student loans.quote:Students and graduates are facing an "eye-watering" 12% interest rate on their loans from September due to rising inflation, analysis has found.
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 16:20 |
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https://twitter.com/owenjones84/status/1514256846642630656?s=21&t=-q9P6J-K9AzC9MAu7dAIpw Lol despite the careful wording of the rest of the Private Eye article, that last sentence does explicitly say he’s been found guilty of bullying a colleague
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 16:27 |
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JoylessJester posted:I think the pilot was liked enough to get a series, but then that got trashed? Looks like the bbc cancelled it due to poor ratings. Well, I didn't watch it, but I remember people being pleasantly surprised by it. But yeah, maybe that was just the pilot. Still, it's obviously not something that "couldn't be made today" since it, well, was. Anyway, turns out the Private Eye article was bullshit, quell surprise: e: f;b
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 16:28 |
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Probably enough for a libel case then. Cos this has clearly damaged his reputation.
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 16:29 |
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Noxville posted:https://twitter.com/owenjones84/status/1514256846642630656?s=21&t=-q9P6J-K9AzC9MAu7dAIpw
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Comrade Fakename posted:I don't see how Porridge is in any way something you "couldn't make now". Didn't they literally do a modern remake relatively recently that was surprisingly well received? Obviously a remake of a beloved show is a different kettle of fish from a brand new show - how many (mainstream) comedies now are even vaguely anti-authoritarian? (Of course the complete death of the sitcom in the naughties makes this a bit of a trick question but I think my point still stands that you'd never be able to get on television - at least on the single digits of the EPG - with anything even as gently anti-cop as Porridge, let alone the Young Ones)
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Spaced and Black Books were in the noughties though I mean, the 90s side of it, but still
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I saw an episode of Plebs on ITV2 just last night.
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Dead Goon posted:Porridge is never on Dave, it's on UKTV Gold. Not sure what channel it is on (Yesterday - maybe?) but I have seen it quite recently (like in the last few weeks) and I don't have UKTV Gold. Ed: Yesterday: https://yesterday.uktv.co.uk/shows/porridge/
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 17:03 |
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TBH I brainfarted and thought that Dave *was* the channel formerly known as UK Gold - I remember they split it up into a few different channels a while ago and I don't normally watch any of the repeat channels cos I've normally got anything I want to see on them downloaded already.
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Dave was UKTV Gold 2, iirc, and whoever proposed that change is probably still eating out off it.
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josh04 posted:I saw an episode of Plebs on ITV2 just last night. Plebs was made for ITV2, by which I mean it was commissioned for that channel, not that it's a good fit. There's supposed to be a special episode to finish it off, dunno the status of that. It's Lipman-adjacent but that's ignorable, and Tom Rosenthal is a good lad (I loving HOPE, taking a flyer here).
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goddamnedtwisto posted:TBH I brainfarted and thought that Dave *was* the channel formerly known as UK Gold - I remember they split it up into a few different channels a while ago and I don't normally watch any of the repeat channels cos I've normally got anything I want to see on them downloaded already. UKTV Gold is a pay channel and still exists. I don't have any pay channels.
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kecske posted:Graduates face 'eye-watering' 12% interest rate on student loans. Just amazing. Of all the things to tie to inflation.
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https://twitter.com/DXWQC/status/1514280176636633090 The PM and the Chancellor broke the law, so the Justice Minister resigns. The system works!
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 18:12 |
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any Tory jumping ship over this today and not months ago doesn't give a poo poo that they broke the law, they only give a poo poo that people know they broke the law
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 18:14 |
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Boris uses his cabinet as ablative armor.
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we can't let the russians win https://twitter.com/IonaPaton/status/1513915886951972877 e: also yeah the private eye has been Very Sus about trans people for a while Angepain fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Apr 13, 2022 |
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I don't hold with private eyes, eyes should be nationalized.
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In a time of uncertainty and the potential of major war in Europe I know I want to keep Boris in charge. A serious and courageous man, the man of the moment.
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Mega Comrade posted:It's a odd one. You can agree or disagree with guardians internal findings (calling someone a terf is not bullying imo) , but their most well know journalist behind found guilty of bullying IS a weird thing to try and hide from staff. shut the gently caress up
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# ? Apr 13, 2022 18:29 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Obviously a remake of a beloved show is a different kettle of fish from a brand new show - how many (mainstream) comedies now are even vaguely anti-authoritarian? I had assumed we were talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landmark_Sitcom_Season mostly, which took a whole bunch of old sitcoms and did a one-off 'where are they 25 years later' episode for each. The Goodnight Sweetheart one was quite good if I recall.
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feedmegin posted:I had assumed we were talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landmark_Sitcom_Season mostly, which took a whole bunch of old sitcoms and did a one-off 'where are they 25 years later' episode for each. The Goodnight Sweetheart one was quite good if I recall. I'd never heard of that... but there were only five of them and one was that much beloved old classic Mrs Brown's Boys?
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Hadn't realised that Nick Griffin had popped back up writing for Sputnik https://twitter.com/MaximEdwards/status/1514293385267642368
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