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important news; more GM variants
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The English zeta op is good military ost stuff, I like it, but the first original op loving rules. I listen to it all the time between it being deleted from YouTube.
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Apr 18, 2022 01:37
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DamnGlitch posted:The English zeta op is good military ost stuff, I like it, but the first original op loving rules. I listen to it all the time between it being deleted from YouTube. Niel Sedaka is pretty good, yes
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Apr 18, 2022 03:34
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Neil Sedaka is Ocelot?
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Apr 18, 2022 03:43
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Arc Hammer posted:Neil Sedaka is Ocelot? The moment any truth is passed on, it starts turning into fiction. The problem is, fiction inspires people more than facts.
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Apr 18, 2022 03:53
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chiasaur11 posted:The moment any truth is passed on, it starts turning into fiction. The problem is, fiction inspires people more than facts. I mean it's true. More people in this thread would know Z Toki Wo Koete than they would know Better Days Are Coming. The phantom OPain
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Apr 18, 2022 04:11
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Arc Hammer posted:I mean it's true. More people in this thread would know Z Toki Wo Koete than they would know Better Days Are Coming. What do Stellar, Auel and Sting have to do with this???
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Apr 18, 2022 04:15
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ImpAtom posted:What do Stellar, Auel and Sting have to do with this??? Les Enfants Terribles (I really have no idea I've only watched SEED Destiny once) Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Apr 18, 2022 |
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Apr 18, 2022 04:49
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Warmachine posted:I think you're thinking of the Penelope? The flight unit has that distinctive tail-looking bit when it's flying. My problem with this is that I feel it undercuts Unicorn trying to frame Zeon as victims and inherently noble.
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Apr 18, 2022 07:38
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i don't think that's what unicorn was saying
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Apr 18, 2022 07:45
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ninjewtsu posted:i don't think that's what unicorn was saying Yeah, Unicorn thinks the Federation and Zeon both suck, but Zeon sucks more, and also both of them have understandable reasons for their awful actions. At least, in the anime.
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Apr 18, 2022 08:49
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this is completely tangential to any discussion itt atm and maybe it would be better to ask this question in the gunpla thread, but I've been wondering why the High Mobility Test Type doesn't seem to be featured in any official media other than MSV. In recent years it seems like Bandai has been eager to give MSV suits appearances and the OYW is always a popular setting so it seems weird that this very cool looking suit, which supposedly saw limited combat deployment, hasn't even shown up in any of the media that feature a whole bunch of obscure UC stuff like SD gundam genesis or GBO2 (at least to my knowledge). It seems like they copped its color scheme for kycilia's forces in origin, and I have it in my headcanon that the prototypes were somehow used as the basis for the efreet (since the suits share the same model number, and it seems weird that the earth attack force would have the resources to just develop its own MS out of whole cloth at the time). Anyways just curious about everyones thoughts since it seems some of the stuff from MSV has become ubiquitous while others seem to be neglected. tl;dr the HMTT is a neat looking design and I wish we'd see an official, updated version of it.
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Apr 18, 2022 09:46
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Tulalip Tulips posted:Just loving lol. This right here is most of 08th MS Team, to be honest.
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Apr 18, 2022 14:02
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Michel is just the worst most useless pimple on the 08th MS Team and it's honestly amazing he didn't get transferred.
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Apr 18, 2022 14:45
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Arc Hammer posted:Michel is just the worst most useless pimple on the 08th MS Team and it's honestly amazing he didn't get transferred. He drives the truck.
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Apr 18, 2022 15:59
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Arc Hammer posted:Michel is just the worst most useless pimple on the 08th MS Team and it's honestly amazing he didn't get transferred. He gets given multiple opportunities to prove he isn't a gently caress up, fails them all, gets given the shittiest job because it's all he can do, and by time we reach the extraneous final episode he's been bounced from the Federal Forces which should be just about drat impossible. His attitudes are all wrong, and the show goes to great lengths to reinforce that. His comeuppance is being stuck in the friend zone with his buddies underage stalker. I don't think his awfulness is anything other than intentional, he's a loser start to finish, he's the character foil for Shiro (all the things Shiro does that the show tells us are good, Michel wouldn't or won't do). Whether you think that works well or not is up to each of us, but imo its intentional efforts, not some mistake of lazy or bad writing.
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Apr 18, 2022 16:10
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I wouldn't say it's bad writing to have a character like Michel, but both of his focus episodes are really weak and it makes an already pretty bad finale episode nearly insufferable. Terry and Karen were only ever going to be supporting characters and Elodore is his own thing, so they kind of wedged themselves into a corner with the finale by leaving you with the two characters meant to invoke pity and irritation to carry the episode.
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Apr 18, 2022 16:45
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it's a better show if you exclude the epilogue episode. it doesn't really add anything.
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Apr 18, 2022 16:47
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08th MS Team has an ensemble cast that works best when they play off of each other. Terry being the only one willing to give Michel the benefit of the doubt and propose options makes the little poo poo more bearable.
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Apr 18, 2022 17:01
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The fight that Elodore and Michael have in the prison is pretty funny, so MIchael has at least one good moment.
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Apr 18, 2022 17:11
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We can all agree the epilogue episode for 8th MS Team is bad and unnecessary. This thread needs a few anchors of consensus and that topic feels like it might be the strongest one.
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Apr 18, 2022 19:41
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Miller's Report is also bad. What a wasted character.
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Apr 18, 2022 19:50
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it's a better show if you exclude the epilogue episode. it doesn't really add anything. Toonami didn't air it, they say because of all the nudity but I think because they knew it was bad
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Apr 18, 2022 20:03
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Gripweed posted:Toonami didn't air it, they say because of all the nudity but I think because they knew it was bad There's a saying that you should "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" and I'd posit that you should never attribute benevolence that which is adequately explained by idiocy. Or, in this case, legal defensiveness.
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Apr 18, 2022 21:15
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Arc Hammer posted:Miller's Report is also bad. What a wasted character. Isn't it just a recap with a couple minutes of new animation?
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Apr 18, 2022 21:22
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Kingtheninja posted:Isn't it just a recap with a couple minutes of new animation? It's got enough new animation for a whole new subplot, which is more than a lot of recaps get.
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Apr 18, 2022 21:26
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"Bright was the commander of White Base, I'm sure he's a Newtype." Kamille, that man was just about the only fuckin' dude on that ship that wasn't a Newtype.
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Apr 19, 2022 02:58
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He couldn't ride the rainbow.
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Apr 19, 2022 03:00
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Newtype is a spectrum
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Apr 19, 2022 03:01
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This boy can't STOP punching people he shouldn't!
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Apr 19, 2022 03:12
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Waffleman_ posted:"Bright was the commander of White Base, I'm sure he's a Newtype." Bright and Hayato.
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Apr 19, 2022 03:40
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I was about to say that I bet even the kids were Newtypes, but then I remembered they fuckin' were.
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Apr 19, 2022 03:52
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Waffleman_ posted:I was about to say that I bet even the kids were Newtypes, but then I remembered they fuckin' were. They were some of the Newtypiest, even! (Official order of Newtypeness: Amuro Ray Mirai Yashima Sayla Mass Kikka Kitamoto Katz Hawin Letz Cofan Kai Shiden Fraw Bow Tamura Omar Fang Job John Marker Clan Sunmalo Oscar Dublin Vammas Masaki Sleggar Law Ryu Jose Bright Noa Paolo Cassius Haro G-Bull Easy Hamburger Machine Hayato Kobayashi)
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Apr 19, 2022 05:20
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i think that's why the whole idea of newtypes being some kind of superior successor got proven kind of silly instead of it just being a state of consciousness you could reach under the right circumstances and mindset
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Apr 19, 2022 05:23
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Char was interesting in that regard cause he was actually a pretty weak Newtype.
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Apr 19, 2022 05:33
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You know, stuff like that makes me appreciate 00 Gundam's angle of making their Newtype-equivalents just the result of proximity to macguffins. Basically everyone important to White Base that wasn't Bright was a Newtype, which at that point just feels like statistical improbability driven by plot convenience, but in 00 it's just 'oh yeah, Innovator powers and quantum brainwaves are caused by proximity to these weird engines, that's why nearly every major pilot gets psychic powers'. I presume the Lockons Stratos are exceptions for timespan reasons, and Patrick doesn't have enough brainwaves for the GN drives to quantize.
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Apr 19, 2022 05:35
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MonsterEnvy posted:Char was interesting in that regard cause he was actually a pretty weak Newtype. I mean, by the end, he seemed to at least be midcard from all the people going "He might be stronger than Char!" in Zeta like that was a Big Deal. Cleretic posted:You know, stuff like that makes me appreciate 00 Gundam's angle of making their Newtype-equivalents just the result of proximity to macguffins. Basically everyone important to White Base that wasn't Bright was a Newtype, which at that point just feels like statistical improbability driven by plot convenience, but in 00 it's just 'oh yeah, Innovator powers and quantum brainwaves are caused by proximity to these weird engines, that's why nearly every major pilot gets psychic powers'. In the early UC stuff, Newtypism was sort of contagious, with even the not-Newtypes like Bright picking up "gut feelings" and an instinct for who had potential. It's not that you're born a Newtype or you're not. It's a state of mind that people who spend a lot of time around other Newtypes tend to move into. It was only later that it became more of a hard and fast divide. chiasaur11 fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Apr 19, 2022 |
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Apr 19, 2022 05:35
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To me the whole idea that "newtypes" were New Types of people instead of a latent potential held in everyone and expressed to different degrees was more interesting than the idea that there were discretely Oldtypes and Newtypes some had the potential to such a degree that they were straight up ESPers and other people experienced more subtle expressions of it
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Apr 19, 2022 05:39
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chiasaur11 posted:I mean, by the end, he seemed to at least be midcard from all the people going "He might be stronger than Char!" in Zeta like that was a Big Deal. Char was an excellent prodigy of a pilot, this was in spite of his newtype abilities being pretty weak. The guy even doubts at a few points if he actually is a newtype, because of how weak his newtype powers are in comparison to most notable ones. His most impressive newtype ability was using the Six Funnels in the Sazabi while using new technology to boost his newtype powers. Meanwhile Chara in ZZ used 28 Funnels in the Geymalk with no tech assistance. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Apr 19, 2022 |
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I think Char's lack of Newtype prowess was psychological. he we was held back by his narrow and cynical view of the world. Amuro might have been a lame centrist but he did actually have more of an open mind Char could never beat Amuro because his belief in human potential was shallow and just for show, whereas, I think Amuro actually really did think human potential was unlimited. Definitely didn't take the wisest course but he was very much more open to what could happen vs. Char's pessimism muike fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Apr 19, 2022 |
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