[Biosphere Collapse] 420 days of blazin' it

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Hexigrammus: May 22, 2006; Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

Karach posted:

Most ag research is industry funded, and who wants to pay to find out how harmful their chemicals are? And even if that research is done for, say, government certification purposes, you can just submit whatever results you like!

BAU. See also: refined sugar, transfat, tobacco, global warming...

I'm surprised these bastards haven't been caught more often assassinating more than just the scientist's reputation.

Rime posted:

Like 69.68635098859913, 170.42654534723755, a massive burning trash pile with a 1km long emissions plume. Just south of there there's an abandoned facility which looks like a nanobot plague exploded out of it.

I'm going with a plastics recycling depot.

And thank whoever for the plastic nurdles article. Debris rafting has been a thing for introducing alien invasive macro flora and fauna, now I get to think about the implications of pathogens "plastic rafting". Cool, cool.

Bob Socko posted:

Behind my back fence is a strip of city-owned land that is overrun with blackberries. They keep growing over and under my fence, and I can't imagine the city is ever going to do anything about it. So, I hired a guy to build a gate into my back fence, then bought a giant two-handed machete that looks like something out of Elden Ring. Every couple of weeks, I go back there and chop stuff back until I run out of room in my yard waste barrel. I'm making progress!

What is it about Himalayan Giant blackberries that brings out the medieval in some people? My favourite pruning tool for them is a bill hook:

It's also used for laying and maintaining British-style hedgerows. So far I suck at growing hedgerows out of anything other than Himalayan Giant blackberries. :sigh:

Which is unfortunate because you can't leave it for several years otherwise the dead canes build up into a highly flammable mess. No point making it easy for the Goddess of Firenados, especially on a road travelled by smoking miners/rigpigs who like to throw their butts out the window in the summer.

I was wandering around in the swamp this afternoon with a pair of long handled loppers pruning the wild salmonberries for production. I'm a little concerned about my mental state.

i got bad news posted:

salal >:|

gently caress yeah! I've got some on drip irrigation and mulch. It mocks me.

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# ? May 25, 2024 21:42

blatman: May 10, 2009; 14 inc dont mez

can you ferment the enroaching blackberries into delicious blackberry wine?

# ? Apr 19, 2022 05:46

Encrypted: Feb 25, 2016

Quoting from the weather thread

Koirhor posted:

lol ok

How likely were we able to survive if this happened like back in the 1500? just a bunch of people living in uninsulated places without modern electricity or energy network

# ? Apr 19, 2022 05:53

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Encrypted posted:

Quoting from the weather thread

How likely were we able to survive if this happened like back in the 1500? just a bunch of people living in uninsulated places without modern electricity or energy network

probably pretty fine

# ? Apr 19, 2022 07:07

pidan: Nov 6, 2012

Encrypted posted:

Quoting from the weather thread

How likely were we able to survive if this happened like back in the 1500? just a bunch of people living in uninsulated places without modern electricity or energy network

For that specific jump in temperature, I'm sure things like that happened back then and people were fine.

For weird weather in general, lots of people did not in fact survive them and this caused them a lot of discontent, the 1500s are a very topical time to be asking about because that's one of the worse phases of the little ice age, which people reacted sensibly to by blaming witches and going to war.

# ? Apr 19, 2022 07:16

mahershalalhashbaz: Jul 22, 2021; by Pragmatica
(and can't post for 9 days!)

silicone thrills posted:

Why do you hate the beautiful birdie from my yard? :3 this lil bud was on the western red cedar right outside my window and beepin real loud at me one day.

i love the bird :3:

# ? Apr 19, 2022 07:36

munce: Oct 23, 2010

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43017-022-00279-8

quote:

Published: 05 April 2022
Plastic pollution in the Arctic
Melanie Bergmann, France Collard, Joan Fabres, Geir W. Gabrielsen, Jennifer F. Provencher, Chelsea M. Rochman, Erik van Sebille & Mine B. Tekman
Nature Reviews Earth & Environment (2022)

Key points

The widespread plastic pollution in the Arctic originates from both local and distant sources.

Concentrations of plastic in the Arctic vary widely, with greater accumulation in certain hotspots, but are generally similar to those of more densely populated regions.

Plastic has infiltrated all levels of the Arctic food web, including many endemic species, with largely unknown organismal impacts.

In the fast-changing Arctic, plastic pollution adds to the effects of climate change in terms of growing sources, transport processes, potential feedback loops and ecological consequences.

Mitigation of both local and distal plastic pollution is needed to prevent further ecosystem degradation.

# ? Apr 19, 2022 09:00

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Encrypted posted:

Quoting from the weather thread

How likely were we able to survive if this happened like back in the 1500? just a bunch of people living in uninsulated places without modern electricity or energy network

pidan posted:

For that specific jump in temperature, I'm sure things like that happened back then and people were fine.

For weird weather in general, lots of people did not in fact survive them and this caused them a lot of discontent, the 1500s are a very topical time to be asking about because that's one of the worse phases of the little ice age, which people reacted sensibly to by blaming witches and going to war.

this. 1500s are characterized by varying drought and bad weather (caveat: but not as bad as it is today but we survive thanks to guzzling immense ungodly amounts of fossil fuels). like the 1500s saw the collapse and migration of the anazasi, hohokam, pueblo, lots of american southwest cultures emptying out. there was also largely the collapse of Mayan collectives. Aztecs were also undergoing hardships around this time. there was a lot of unrest and strife in mesopotamia around this time too corresponding to poor food-growing conditions. the songhai 'empire' also collapsed in this period for unknown but likely same reason. though things get a little messy around 1500s because its also when you generally had western colonial (or pre-colonial exploratory) missions happening which obviously never turned out well but i think a lot of that ends up being coincidental. probably also a reason there was even many colonial explorations going on.

not sure what was happening in asia around the time but probably the same.

Xaris has issued a correction as of 11:16 on Apr 19, 2022

# ? Apr 19, 2022 11:09

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Raine posted:

blackberries? a hard sell in this political climate. maybe after the midterms

until then we must work with what we have

white berries

Ah I see the nurdles have now been fully incorporated into the natural world

# ? Apr 19, 2022 11:09

Egg Moron: Jul 21, 2003; the dreams of the delighting void

# ? Apr 19, 2022 12:28

Pepe Silvia Browne: Jan 1, 2007

I think I freaked my dad out talking about the Polar Vortex collapsing lol

# ? Apr 19, 2022 12:49

BaldDwarfOnPCP: Jun 26, 2019; by Pragmatica

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

I think I freaked my dad out talking about the Polar Vortex collapsing lol

Dads are really vulnerable now.

I was visiting my mom/dad/nana and my dad was just straight up watching milporn about Ukraine.

I could see his eyes getting moist from an orphanage bombing. Well now you care, since they're white, I didn't say.

Let's see you survive the next heat dome. Is that what we're calling it?

Thing nearly killed me. I don't like triple digit weather.

# ? Apr 19, 2022 12:57

T-Paine: Dec 12, 2007; Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.

[Biosphere Collapse] I think I freaked my dad out
[Biosphere Collapse] Dads are really vulnerable now

# ? Apr 19, 2022 13:01

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

pidan posted:

For that specific jump in temperature, I'm sure things like that happened back then and people were fine.

For weird weather in general, lots of people did not in fact survive them and this caused them a lot of discontent, the 1500s are a very topical time to be asking about because that's one of the worse phases of the little ice age, which people reacted sensibly to by blaming witches and going to war.

so just like today if you assume witch = trans

# ? Apr 19, 2022 13:03

Karach: May 23, 2003; no war but class war

T-Paine posted:

[Biosphere Collapse] Dads are really vulnerable now

# ? Apr 19, 2022 13:06

BaldDwarfOnPCP: Jun 26, 2019; by Pragmatica

mediaphage posted:

so just like today if you assume witch = trans

look, people need to panic

if there are large hailstones in texas or frozen roads, you need to ban abortion

simple

# ? Apr 19, 2022 13:07

Lilium Dimension: Feb 12, 2022

mediaphage posted:

so just like today if you assume witch = trans

Look, I can't help that my gender euphoria manifests as catastrophic weather events

# ? Apr 19, 2022 13:17

Iron Crowned: May 6, 2003; by Hand Knit

I watched Silent Running last night.

# ? Apr 19, 2022 13:19

BaldDwarfOnPCP: Jun 26, 2019; by Pragmatica

Lilium Dimension posted:

Look, I can't help that my gender euphoria manifests as catastrophic weather events

I'm glad it's not gender dysphoria and I salute whatever X-Men level of Storm you might summon

# ? Apr 19, 2022 13:23

krispykremessuck: Jul 22, 2005; unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

blackberries own because when the thickets get big enough you can create tunnel networks underneath of the briar canopy and live out your days under the blackberry dome which will dissuade any annoying PNW types from getting anywhere near you

# ? Apr 19, 2022 13:24

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

krispykremessuck posted:

annoying PNW types

redundant

# ? Apr 19, 2022 13:32

BaldDwarfOnPCP: Jun 26, 2019; by Pragmatica

mediaphage posted:

redundant

i will take you to brunch for that

# ? Apr 19, 2022 13:39

Enfys: Feb 17, 2013; The ocean is calling and I must go

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

look, people need to panic

if there are large hailstones in texas or frozen roads, you need to ban abortion

simple

[Biosphere Collapse] look, people need to panic

# ? Apr 19, 2022 14:07

actionjackson: Jan 12, 2003

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

I think I freaked my dad out talking about the Polar Vortex collapsing lol

what are you referring to specifically

also it's 27 degrees in Minneapolis lol

# ? Apr 19, 2022 15:04

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Enfys posted:

[Biosphere Collapse] look, people need to panic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91GcPnjrGdE

# ? Apr 19, 2022 15:13

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

i will take you to brunch for that

# ? Apr 19, 2022 15:36

SniperWoreConverse: Mar 20, 2010; Gun Saliva

Hubbert posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91GcPnjrGdE

same

# ? Apr 19, 2022 15:55

Pepe Silvia Browne: Jan 1, 2007

actionjackson posted:

what are you referring to specifically

the man whose sperm sired me, being freaked out about the polar vortex collapse and the 50 degree swings in temperature between days in March and April we are experiencing in God's country, Western New York

# ? Apr 19, 2022 16:01

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

the man whose sperm sired me, being freaked out about the polar vortex collapse and the 50 degree swings in temperature between days in March and April we are experiencing in God's country, Western New York

# ? Apr 19, 2022 16:07

TeenageArchipelago: Jul 23, 2013

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

Dads are really vulnerable now.

I was visiting my mom/dad/nana and my dad was just straight up watching milporn about Ukraine.

I could see his eyes getting moist from an orphanage bombing. Well now you care, since they're white, I didn't say.

Let's see you survive the next heat dome. Is that what we're calling it?

Thing nearly killed me. I don't like triple digit weather.

I've completely stopped talking to my dad about it, because it fucks him up something fierce. And then he goes right back to watching the local Sinclair media owned TV station, and becomes his centrist "Biden is too far left that's why he's losing support" self, so gently caress me I guess

# ? Apr 19, 2022 16:10

Iron Crowned: May 6, 2003; by Hand Knit

TeenageArchipelago posted:

I've completely stopped talking to my dad about it, because it fucks him up something fierce. And then he goes right back to watching the local Sinclair media owned TV station, and becomes his centrist "Biden is too far left that's why he's losing support" self, so gently caress me I guess

My dad just follows whatever the CNN line is, and when that doesn't work, starts talking about how much technology has advanced in the last 100 years and how technology will save us. This goes for all manner of things, not just Climate change, "technology" will eventually invent the thing that magically saves us all.

# ? Apr 19, 2022 16:14

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Climate change: Key UN finding widely misinterpreted (BBC News)

quote:

In the document, researchers wrote that greenhouse gases are projected to peak "at the latest before 2025".

This implies that carbon could increase for another three years and the world could still avoid dangerous warming.

But scientists say that's incorrect and that emissions need to fall immediately.

quote:

"Because models work on 5-year increments, we can't derive statements with higher precision," said Dr Joeri Rogelj, from Imperial College London, and an IPCC lead author.

"But when you look at the scientific data supporting this headline, it becomes immediately clear that any scenario in line with 1.5C drops emissions from 2020 to 2025. Even for scenarios that limit warming to 2C this is also the case."

quote:

Covid delayed the mitigation report by about a year but the information used came from models that projected peaking, by and large, in 2020.

"The headline statement couldn't say emissions should have peaked already, as governments and scientists need to agree on messaging that is scientifically accurate without being policy prescriptive," said Dr Edward Byers, an IPCC contributing author from the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis.

quote:

A major challenge in communicating complex messages about climate change is that the more simplified media reports of these events often have more influence than the science itself.

This worries observers who argue that giving countries the impression that emissions can continue to grow until 2025 would be a disaster for the world.

"We definitely don't have the luxury of letting emissions grow for yet another three years," said Kaisa Kosonen from Greenpeace.

"We have eight years to nearly halve global emissions. That's an enormous task, but still doable, as the IPCC has just reminded us - but if people now start chasing emissions peak by 2025 as some kind of benchmark, we don't have a chance."

Oopsadoodle

# ? Apr 19, 2022 16:28

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

some weapons-grade hopium from the guardian

quote:

‘Historic’: global climate plans can now keep heating below 2C, study shows
But goal of limiting global heating to 1.5C will fail without immediate action, scientists warn

For the first time the world is in a position to limit global heating to under 2C (surely the first time would be literally any time before, like, 1980 or so??), according to the first in-depth analysis of the net zero pledges made by nations at the UN Cop26 climate summit in December.
Before these pledges it was more than likely that at the peak of the climate crisis there would be a temperature rise above 2C, bringing more severe impacts for billions of people. Now it is more likely that the peak temperature rise will be about 1.9C.
However, the researchers said this [peak of 1.9C] depended on all nations implementing their pledges on time and in full, and warned that the policies to do so were not in place. The pledges also include those that developing countries have said will not happen without more financial and technical support.

Achieving the pledges needed for the 2C limit was a “historic milestone” and good news, the scientists said. However, they said the bad news was that the cuts in global emissions currently planned by 2030 were way off track to keep the peak below 1.5C. That is the global goal, but currently there is less than a 10% chance of hitting that target.

[...]

# ? Apr 19, 2022 16:28

SniperWoreConverse: Mar 20, 2010; Gun Saliva

what is it with dads being vulnerable to climate change?

Out of everyone i know literally only my dad is the one who's starting to suspect there might be something to this mumbo jumbo i've been harping on, and it might be not so good. Everyone else either doesn't believe it's real or just doesn't believe it's something that can affect them.

# ? Apr 19, 2022 16:49

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

my dad worked for an oil company in the 80s and it fucks me up

mawarannahr has issued a correction as of 17:08 on Apr 19, 2022

# ? Apr 19, 2022 17:04

Cloks: Feb 1, 2013; by Azathoth

SniperWoreConverse posted:

what is it with dads being vulnerable to climate change?

Out of everyone i know literally only my dad is the one who's starting to suspect there might be something to this mumbo jumbo i've been harping on, and it might be not so good. Everyone else either doesn't believe it's real or just doesn't believe it's something that can affect them.

might be confirmation bias, my dad said "we've turned this planet into a cinder" unprompted a few months ago

# ? Apr 19, 2022 17:04

pissinthewind: Nov 11, 2021

my dad gets too sad to talk about it
i think a lot of it is that its a failure of those older generations in many ways to take action and build a society that will last for their children and grandchildren. they completely and totally capitulated to power. and that is a generation, at least if they're "leftists", that sort of had all these badges of pride with regards to civil rights movements, women's rights, technological stuff like going to the moon, humanity/the USA is so awesome and exceptional, etc. unfortunately none of that poo poo really matters when it comes to the destruction of the planet, their generation is largely a failure to construct something lasting or meaningful beyond their own comfort and consumption.
I am in the generation that was taught and told, renewables are going to solve this, recycling is going to solve this. and now its like, none of that poo poo ever came to pass, recycling as practiced doesn't even tackle the problem, renewables don't exist in any real sense and even if they did today its far too late to even make a real difference

# ? Apr 19, 2022 17:10

actionjackson: Jan 12, 2003

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

the man whose sperm sired me, being freaked out about the polar vortex collapse and the 50 degree swings in temperature between days in March and April we are experiencing in God's country, Western New York

lol

no but i mean when you say "polar vortex collapsing" it's the jet stream collapsing that's causing the polar vortexes, right? not the vortexes themselves collapsing (not sure what that would even mean)

# ? Apr 19, 2022 17:11

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

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actionjackson posted:

lol

no but i mean when you say "polar vortex collapsing" it's the jet stream collapsing that's causing the polar vortexes, right? not the vortexes themselves collapsing (not sure what that would even mean)

The primary vortex bifurcates and produces sub-vortexes that go on to collapse/dissipate

Polar bears get hot

# ? Apr 19, 2022 17:17

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