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What is the strongest bug?
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Praying mantis 91 21.06%
🐜 71 16.44%
🦂 56 12.96%
🕷 46 10.65%
🦎 101 23.38%
Centipede 67 15.51%
Total: 432 votes
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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
Russia is running out of guns?

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Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

I think the problem isn't running out of guns,but ammo. Only a finite amount spawns on the map

Cromulent_Chill
Apr 6, 2009

Gripweed posted:

I was told that fighting until Russia runs out of guns is the plan, and it's working. They can't get anymore guns because of the blockade, so every gun lost in Ukraine gets them one step closer to their inevitable surrender.

Did they tell you wrong as a joke?

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

M_Gargantua posted:

i am still very much pro-nazi

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Calibanibal posted:

I think the problem isn't running out of guns,but ammo. Only a finite amount spawns on the map

weapon pickups respawn infinitely but only give the minimal amount of ammo each time, so it's a resource race :hai:

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

M_Gargantua posted:

i am still very much pro-nazi

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Fly Molo posted:

Deliver Us from Evil? written by an american doctor, all about rescuing sad north Vietnamese Catholics from crucifixion and torture and dead at the hands of the evil communists

of course it later turned out the doctor was in cahoots with the CIA and those atrocities were actually committed by the French forces, not the communists, but the propaganda served it’s purpose. :nsa:

Thats the one!

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

Killin_Like_Bronson posted:

So gently caress off

my bad opinions will continue as long as there are other people posting that ukraine surrendering is a good option

Horseshoe theory posted:

Yeah, we know you dream of being a member of the Schutzstaffel (or the predecessor Sturmabteilung).

more channeling the inglorious bastards view on dealing with nazis but you do you

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

Regarde Aduck posted:

Russia is running out of guns?

That is what I was told

Killin_Like_Bronson posted:

Did they tell you wrong as a joke?

The different Ukraine threads are different worlds, I swear to god

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
russia is running out of tank and plane parts that they cannot domesticly replace while Ukraine is has convoys of better nato weapons being dropped off weekly

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

When is the Ukrainian counter offensive into Russia starting

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely

Gripweed posted:

I was told that fighting until Russia runs out of guns is the plan, and it's working. They can't get anymore guns because of the blockade, so every gun lost in Ukraine gets them one step closer to their inevitable surrender.

Russia produces a poo poo ton of weapons, so much that they are the 2nd largest exporters of firearms and ammunition in the world behind the US. This is the same moronic logic that proclaimed that Russia would run out of supplies in 1 week at the start of the invasion

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Frosted Flake posted:

Thats the one!

check out Inward Empire, that’s where I heard it mentioned in it’s full context. it’s a good (albeit short) podcast series on american imperialism and ideology that’s been very enjoyable imo. he recently put out a several-part series on the Diem regime and its a real banger

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

That sounds great and all but are Ukrainians advanced enough to use such weapons?

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Calibanibal posted:

That sounds great and all but are Ukrainians advanced enough to use such weapons?

lol

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

M_Gargantua posted:

i am still very much pro-nazi

we KNOW

jfc what’s with weird nazi pricks getting main character syndrome. it’s not all about you, buddy.

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica

Calibanibal posted:

That sounds great and all but are Ukrainians advanced enough to use such weapons?

donbas (pronounced like dumbass)

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Calibanibal posted:

That sounds great and all but are Ukrainians advanced enough to use such weapons?

the weapons still do full damage without all the perks, it just gives you -5 accuracy and it blows up an apartment full of civilians if you roll a 1

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!

Egg Moron posted:

The spat between Russia and ukraine is a civil war in the sense that their culture is based solely on making alcohol out of potatoes and drinking it

They just have different perspectives on aesthetic considerations like which Biden should have their money or which human trafficking ring should be the best one in London.

Like the us civil war, where the south wanted their slaves to live at the property of an individual and the north wanted their slaves to live at the property of a company

Lol at becoming such a contrarian dipshit you literally argue that the confederacy wasn’t that bad and the chattel slaves were really no worse off than anyone else. The literal line the plantation owners used while they raped underage girls.

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

I mean I'm looking at this horde of orc cannibals and thinking to myself honestly, was the confederacy THAT bad?

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Gripweed posted:

I was told that fighting until Russia runs out of guns is the plan, and it's working. They can't get anymore guns because of the blockade, so every gun lost in Ukraine gets them one step closer to their inevitable surrender.

ah yes Russia the country that at one point was supposed to fight WW3 is gonna run out of guns

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Egg Moron posted:

The spat between Russia and ukraine is a civil war in the sense that their culture is based solely on making alcohol out of potatoes and drinking it

They just have different perspectives on aesthetic considerations like which Biden should have their money or which human trafficking ring should be the best one in London.

Like the us civil war, where the south wanted their slaves to live at the property of an individual and the north wanted their slaves to live at the property of a company

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Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

Al-Saqr posted:

ah yes Russia the country that at one point was supposed to fight WW3 is gonna run out of guns

They are both incredibly powerful and easily defeated.

Sounds familiar. Not sure where I've heard this before.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
russia reconstituting 41 battalion tactical groups out of the ramshackle remains of the forces retreating from the north and expecting them to do anything useful in donbas. you lose 25% of your unit your morale essentially bottoms out unless you have a deep reason to keep fighting, such as defense of your nation. these Russian Btgs are now combat ineffective. even if you replace those casualties from other also demoralized groups

supersnowman
Oct 3, 2012

Flavahbeast posted:

It's hard to wrap your head around, why would invading a place to free it from terrorism create more terrorists who hate my country? Logically this does not make sense, and yet it keeps happening

The Russians are following the "guide" written by the west and more or less learning exactly the same lessons I guess...

the white hand
Nov 12, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
are they in fact coping

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

supersnowman posted:

The Russians are following the "guide" written by the west and more or less learning exactly the same lessons I guess...

:capitalism:

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Okay so 41 battalions with 0 morale. Thats what, a 25% debuff to accuracy and 20% debuff to movement speed? I mean yeah that's bad but it hardly makes them "combat ineffective"

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/ahatanhel/status/1517440088879284224?s=20&t=K5rZ27upIdISGgCikiVL4A

When I wrote my “Letter to the Western Left” two months ago, I hoped that the shock of the war and the criticism from the Eastern European left would force the Western left to reconsider their position.

But I was disappointed with how many leftists continued to write complete poo poo. Jacobin published ten times more bullshit texts on ten normal materials about Ukraine.

They even distorted the history of the socialist movement to justify their shameful position. Here is a good article by @lionel_trolling about it.

When Russian Socialist Movement asked them to publish their anti-war statement, which our organization also signed, they refused.

They said that the statements were not their format. But this was a false excuse, because at the beginning of the war they published two Russian anti-war statements

The difference was that those two statements did not call for support military aid for Ukraine. Russian anti-war socialists risked being imprisoned to supported us, and Jacobin failed to publish their statement.

LeftEast also does not support the supply of weapons, but they published with a preface. Instead, Jacobin not only refused to publish, but also lied.

But a special place among Jacobin's materials is occupied by the texts of Branko Marcetic. He became an odious figure among the Ukrainian left because of his incompetence and manipulation.

Here is a good article by Stephen R. Shalom, in which he analyzes one of the examples of Branko's manipulations. Jacobin refused to publish it.

Instead, Jacobin continues to publish the bullshit of this manipulative idiot. Yesterday they published his new article.

Marcetic wrote: “Zelensky announced early on in the war that he would give out weapons to anyone willing to fight.” This is true, but it was only a few days at the beginning of the war, and even then only a part of those who wanted to fight received weapons.

Very quickly, the state began to tightly control the issuance of weapons.

Our military unit is now in Kyiv, where it is calm. We do not fight, but are constantly trained. And we are forced to report for every loving cartridge shot. Our officers are shocked, because in 2014 there was nothing like that.

But Marcetic is not interested in the real situation in Ukraine and what the Ukrainian left can say. He uses statements that are convenient for him to justify his own shameful position.

Marcetic wrote: “Ukrainian troops pick up trucks loaded with weapons mostly in Poland… before driving them across the border, at which point it’s entirely up to Ukrainians how and where they’re given out”

Yes, because Ukrainians are fighting, and we decide where given out. Does this chauvinist want NATO generals to lead our defense? gently caress off!

This is a 1944 Maxim gun. Nestor Makhno fought with the same machine guns on tachankas in Ukraine a hundred years ago. Therefore, when he was handed over to our unit, our anarchists were delighted.

But in fact, the fact that Ukraine had to deconserve even such old weapons to have something to fight is not a positive fact.

Against this background, the Western left, which criticizes military aid to Ukraine, are outrageous. What do they want us to fight with bows and arrows when we shoot all the bullets? Do they want the Russians to kill as many Ukrainians as possible? That there was more Bucha?

Idiots have written since the beginning of war that military aid will increase casualties. At that time Ukrainian authorities requested in the first place air defense. Is it really so difficult to understand that the more we shoot down Russian missiles, the less Ukrainians die?

“Anti-imperialist” idiots who call on Ukrainians not to resist imperialist aggression are a disgrace. To those assholes who want us to capitulate, I can only say: go gently caress youself.

PS. My “Letter to the Western Left” was translated from Ukrainian for publication. A mistake was made in the translation – the translator did not read Marcetic's article, which I criticized, so he replaced the word “intentions” with “actions”.

This was unfair, because there is criticism of Putin's actions in the article. But Marcetic used the softest possible wording about his intentions. At a time when the Russian army was bombing Ukrainian cities, the words “signal less-than-benign ambitions” looked like mockery.

When Marcetic wrote about misstake, we corrected it. The editor of openDemocracy sent a letter to anyone who translated or reprinted my letter asking for changes to the text. But this was not enough for Marcetic, he demanded to edit the text more.

The problem is not only that they refuse to support Ukrainian resistance. Fortunately, they have little effect on military aid policy. The problem is that these idiots discredit the socialist movement. And we will have to deal with the consequences of this for a long time to come

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Gripweed posted:

I was told that fighting until Russia runs out of guns is the plan, and it's working. They can't get anymore guns because of the blockade, so every gun lost in Ukraine gets them one step closer to their inevitable surrender.

Azov dude runs out of ammo and picks up a Russian AK, checks the mag only to discover it's full of rocks and nails. Gets ambushed by some saboteurs and pulls the trigger anyway, they all fall over dead despite the gun not actually firing

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Calibanibal posted:

Okay so 41 battalions with 0 morale. Thats what, a 25% debuff to accuracy and 20% debuff to movement speed? I mean yeah that's bad but it hardly makes them "combat ineffective"

Nah with zero moral they are going to break on the first day of contact and shatter-move to Vladivostok.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

That the expectation amongst liberals has now settled on winning a war of attrition against Russia is not something I would have ever expected.

Who ever said that the point of Liberalism is to obscure material reality at all costs nailed it.

the white hand
Nov 12, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I swear to god nobody ever whined this much about not having enough weapons, not the contras or anybody

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

the white hand posted:

I swear to god nobody ever whined this much about not having enough weapons, not the contras or anybody

it wasn't as widespread, but there was a time when you could find people saying the Syrian rebels lost the war because the US and gulf monarchies didn't give them enough weapons. The US was actually pro-Assad the whole time even.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 4 days!
If Russia finds that can expand his territory with weapons. We will live in a much more unsafe world. China may start having ideas about Taiwan. We could have more and more wars around russia.

We need to stop it here and right now. If we want peace.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

the white hand posted:

I swear to god nobody ever whined this much about not having enough weapons, not the contras or anybody


I have a CBC news thing that tells me some news stuff after my alarm goes off and everyday zelensky is asking for more stuff and how we are all failing him and its surprising no one has just told him to gently caress off yet

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Tei posted:

If Russia finds that can expand his territory with weapons. We will live in a much more unsafe world. China may start having ideas about Taiwan. We could have more and more wars around russia.

We need to stop it here and right now. If we want peace.

Both china and Taiwan agree that they are part of the same country.

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

Tei posted:

If Russia finds that can expand his territory with weapons. We will live in a much more unsafe world. China may start having ideas about Taiwan. We could have more and more wars around russia.

We need to stop it here and right now. If we want peace.

lol

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Frosted Flake posted:

That the expectation amongst liberals has now settled on winning a war of attrition against Russia is not something I would have ever expected.


US DOD basically saying the Donbas Offensive will be a while and prolong things. how mich prolonged? :iiam: but explains shipping several battalions’ worth of artillery.

also
https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/1517595114411020288?s=21&t=LewkYSAH1x9IyUFSoc49cA

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Fellatio del Toro
Mar 21, 2009

we need a strong leader to do some disemboldening

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