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ReidRansom posted:e: Accounts deactivated, app installed this typo making me chuckle
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Bishyaler posted:At this point you're banking on undecided voters. Regarding "banking on undecided voters," it's probably worth noting that Trump has never gotten above 47% in an election, and had a disapproval rating above 50% every day of his presidency outside of his first month in office. Bishyaler posted:My high confidence in the outcome does not mean I'm stating the outcome is undisputed fact, nor should anyone unless they're a wizard in possession of a crystal ball.
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World Famous W posted:this typo making me chuckle doh.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/25/nyregion/trump-investigation-letitia-james-contempt.htmlquote:A New York judge on Monday held Donald J. Trump in contempt of court for failing to turn over documents to the state’s attorney general, an extraordinary rebuke of the former president. we_got_him.gif
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Wow I can't believe Elon Musk just invented twitter!
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One thing I don't understand on these sorts of deals. Musk makes the offer, wants to buy out the lot and take it private. Board approves today, but it's subject to a shareholder vote at some point in the future. Now, I assume that's going to affirm the sale, but what about all the shareholders that don't want to sell? Are they basically forced to sell their shares to Musk at a price they didn't personally agree because the majority voted they all had to? That doesn't sound like the actions of a champion of liberty. How does stonk work?
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Are people seriously doing twexits over this? eta: lol at the "twitter is a shithole, but it's been our shithole" sentiments I'm seeing online.
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I'm guessing this will result in a LOT of Twitter employees leaving and creating their own new Twitter that's basically like the current one, maybe a smidge more idealistic.
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I'm pretty sure nothing about Twitter will change at all and under capitalism it doesn't make any difference which white dude is pocketing the profits
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Dubar posted:I'm pretty sure nothing about Twitter will change at all and under capitalism it doesn't make any difference which white dude is pocketing the profits I expect some labor leaders and any union organizing will get those user banned. As well as anyone who dares to say Musk is anything but the finest man to ever exist. Those divers a few years ago, who said they didn't need his help and he called them pedophiles. - he'll just ban them next time.
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A lotta people forgetting that jack was a weird libertarian in his own right and buddies with Peter Thiel if I remember correctly. I don't see much changing besides Elon making things about himself a bit more.
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Artonos posted:A lotta people forgetting that jack was a weird libertarian in his own right and buddies with Peter Thiel if I remember correctly.
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Cicero posted:Yes, but obviously Twitter implemented a bunch of policies restricting some forms of speech under public pressure anyway. But Musk wants to undo that, if he was gonna change nothing he wouldn't bother buying it. I assume he just bought it because it's an easy way to get even richer? Or maybe he's aiming for a 2024 presidential campaign run 
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Dumb Donnie will get his account back the first week. 
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ReidRansom posted:One thing I don't understand on these sorts of deals. Musk makes the offer, wants to buy out the lot and take it private. Board approves today, but it's subject to a shareholder vote at some point in the future. Now, I assume that's going to affirm the sale, but what about all the shareholders that don't want to sell? Are they basically forced to sell their shares to Musk at a price they didn't personally agree because the majority voted they all had to? That doesn't sound like the actions of a champion of liberty. Yes that is essentially what happens. When a company gets taken private, public shareholders will receive a payment and their shares will be rescinded whether they agree to it or not. New (private) shares will be issued to Elon Musk and any other backers who are taking it private.
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Kalit posted:I assume he just bought it because it's an easy way to get even richer? Or maybe he's aiming for a 2024 presidential campaign run Nothing so calculated. He bought it because people can use it to annoy him and he would like to be annoyed less He's rich enough that $20 billion is not a significant amount of money, and neither is any potential profit Twitter could bring in. If Twitter implodes and he loses every penny, he won't be meaningfully impacted
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Kalit posted:I assume he just bought it because it's an easy way to get even richer? Or maybe he's aiming for a 2024 presidential campaign run Twitter has rarely been profitable. If he intends to use it to get richer, it won't be directly off Twitter itself. ReidRansom fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Apr 25, 2022 |
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I think Elon Musk bought Twitter so that more people would spend more time talking/writing/thinking about Elon Musk.
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Elon bought Twitter for the same reason other billionaires buy professional sports franchises: status.Mellow Seas posted:I think Elon Musk bought Twitter so that more people would spend more time talking/writing/thinking about Elon Musk. Also this.
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Mellow Seas posted:Then don't state it as an undisputed fact. Did you think there was a chance that Bishyaler was a time traveler who could produce proof of Trump's victory in 2024? If someone says "Trump's going to win in 2024" and it's 2022, that's obviously an opinion. Asking them to explain why they think that and expecting them to be able to produce some sort of reasoning or evidence is certainly an appropriate follow up though, and it looks like that's how the conversation went.
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The actual, literal, unironic reason that Elon first looked into buying into Twitter and getting on the board is because he asked them to shut down a Twitter bot that some kid made that tracked his private plane's takeoffs and landings and they said no.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The actual, literal, unironic reason that Elon first looked into buying into Twitter and getting on the board is because he asked them to shut down a Twitter bot that some kid made that tracked his private plane's takeoffs and landings and they said no. Also he'd really like to spy on/suppress any kind of union talk about his companies. Billionaires going on ego trips over petty poo poo will probably become more common. They seem to be the kind of broken that can hold a grudge forever over the dumbest things. What I don't really get is the weird cult of personality around him that makes the 'tech bros' shout down any kind of criticism about him or his companies. His public relations team must be very good at their jobs.
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Willa Rogers posted:Are people seriously doing twexits over this? I guess the difference is that the new shithead is way more vocal about his awful takes than the previous one His inevitable meltdown when buying twitter still gets him no respect from anyone will be incredible though.
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^^^ Nah, meltdowns from tech bros aren't interesting in the least.Sekhmnet posted:Also he'd really like to spy on/suppress any kind of union talk about his companies. Twitter itself isn't unionized, in spite of @jack's undeserved reputation as a lefty. Maybe Elon will spur a successful unionization.
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Willa Rogers posted:^^^ Nah, meltdowns from tech bros aren't interesting in the least. I thought Jack was only considered a lefty by the conservatives who get mad they got a little pushback for lies and obvious disinfo getting called out on the platform. Is that the general perception? I know everyone here seems to know he's a libertarian techbro and not really "left" in any significant way.
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Professor Beetus posted:I thought Jack was only considered a lefty by the conservatives who get mad they got a little pushback for lies and obvious disinfo getting called out on the platform. Is that the general perception? I know everyone here seems to know he's a libertarian techbro and not really "left" in any significant way. Conservative media is pretty lockstep in calling Jack Dorsey a lefty, so that's probably where somebody would pick that perception up.
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It's also defo not for a presidential run. Musk was born overseas.
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Josef bugman posted:It's also defo not for a presidential run. Musk was born overseas. And thank god for it, to be honest. The guy is egomaniacal enough to run, if he were eligible.
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Professor Beetus posted:I thought Jack was only considered a lefty by the conservatives who get mad they got a little pushback for lies and obvious disinfo getting called out on the platform. Is that the general perception? I know everyone here seems to know he's a libertarian techbro and not really "left" in any significant way. Nah, a lot of libs think Jack's a lefty, too, given their opposite sentiments about censoring the right, even when it turns out to not be, after the fact, "lies and obvious disinfo." (NYPost tweeting about Hunter's laptop, e.g.) You wouldn't be seeing this sort of exaggerated overreaction if libs thought Jack wasn't a lefty selling it to a righty, instead of what it is: lolberts swapping ownership.
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Willa Rogers posted:^^^ Nah, meltdowns from tech bros aren't interesting in the least. Musk is more charlatan than tech bro, he eats poo poo publicly pretty often. Remember his dumb cave tube? And when he called that rescue worker a pedophile for not using his dumb cave tube?
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Jack often tried to hedge by calling Twitter a left leaning company but would describe himself as a libertarian. There's all the famous quotes he made about Twitter having a left bias. Mostly made everyone hate him instead.
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I remember when Musk proposed building tunnels under Miami. Miami. 
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Lib and let die posted:I remember when Musk proposed building tunnels under Miami. Musk just thinks anyone not willing to risk an entire state's fresh water is a coward who hates progress.
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Lib and let die posted:I remember when Musk proposed building tunnels under Miami. From what I've gathered the only thing Musk really wants is his own private subway. It's why he's so obsessed with tubes and tunnels and whatnot.
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Gumball Gumption posted:Musk just thinks anyone not willing to risk an entire state's fresh water is a coward who hates progress. It's not just that, it's completely impractical to tunnel in an environment like that. The whole region is a thin crust of solid material over a swamp of wet sand
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Elon has announced some his changes. - "No Comment" on whether he would let Trump back. Trump just responded that he would never go back to Twitter even if he was unbanned. - "Authenticating all humans" (no details on how or what would be required) - "Defeating the spam bots" - Challenging new E.U. privacy laws - Turn Twitter into the “de facto town square" and scale back moderation. He said new moderation will be lighter and based on the idea that “you are good if the most extreme 10 percent on left and right are equally unhappy.” - Make the news algorithm public. - Make the algorithm prioritize accounts that tweet more over accounts with tons of followers that don't tweet often. Cited Barack Obama, Justin Bieber, and Katy Perry as accounts with low content, but high numbers of followers. - "Enhancing the product with new features" (no details) - Increase users and profits. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-will-not-return-to-twitter-even-if-elon-musk-purchases-platform-will-begin-using-his-truth-social https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/25/business/elon-musk-twitter#elon-musk-twitter-trump-return Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Apr 25, 2022 |
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Dubar posted:Musk unbans Donnie, who then becomes Prez, undoes section 230, and charges Musk with insurrection.
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Willa Rogers posted:Maybe Elon will spur a successful unionization. Yeah, I'm sure the guy proclaiming he's worried about free speech after he mucked with a customers Tesla order is gonna unionize Twitter Musk has a history of sabotaging Unionization efforts.
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