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"Why do you have to bring class into everything?!" is the new "why do you have to bring race into everything?!"
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Byzantine posted:"Why do you have to bring class into everything?!" is the new "why do you have to bring race into everything?!" Yeah both of those are sane person responses to tedious people running their boring mouths
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Apr 26, 2022 17:43
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Josef bugman posted:In which instance? Sorry there seem to be two conversations going on and I am just a bit confused! PHUO: Replies should quote a previous post if there's any doubt whatsoever about the context.
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Apr 26, 2022 18:57
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I think the both of them are wrong (especially about the controversial thing) but I won't say why
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Apr 26, 2022 19:05
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Josef bugman posted:How so? Being able to interpret the world requires looking at it through a variety of lenses, saying that you can't see politics in things seems a little weird if you want to understand stuff. because it tends to displace the question "do i like it?" with "do i agree with it?"
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Apr 26, 2022 19:05
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people who like spiders are stupid and gross and wrong
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Apr 26, 2022 19:26
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Powered Descent posted:PHUO: Replies should quote a previous post if there's any doubt whatsoever about the context. You should never quote posts. context is a liberal indulgence
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Apr 26, 2022 19:29
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Allowing for disagreement is important but that opinion should be bannable
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Apr 26, 2022 19:31
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Imo it's good we are more class conscious. Helps us screen out those dirty, dirty poors.
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Apr 26, 2022 19:36
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Manager Hoyden posted:tedious people running their boring mouths True, but enough about your posts, alexandriao has a new favorite as of 22:46 on Apr 26, 2022 |
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Apr 26, 2022 22:43
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Shibawanko posted:because it tends to displace the question "do i like it?" with "do i agree with it?" I mean what you like and what you agree with do tend to be somewhat similar. If you didn't like what you believe, you'd change your PoV.
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Apr 26, 2022 23:19
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Josef bugman posted:I mean what you like and what you agree with do tend to be somewhat similar. If you didn't like what you believe, you'd change your PoV. There are tons of things people like but disagree with. See almonds, bottled water, social media, most electronics, their home, air travel, nutella, meat, nearly every movie ever made, their clothes, their shower, and more and more and more But that's okay you can always chant "there's no ethical consumption under capitalism" and it's like confessing to a priest
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Apr 26, 2022 23:47
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You know how they say politics and religion have no place in polite conversation? That's true, but only because the people that want to talk about religion and politics are the worst people.
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Apr 26, 2022 23:52
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Josef bugman posted:I mean what you like and what you agree with do tend to be somewhat similar. this reads like a textbook definition of narcissism though. its true for most people but its a boring and isolating way to live i dont "agree" with mishima or celine but i love reading both. you dont have to agree with a joke to think its funny, for the same reason you dont have to know trivia about a painters life to like a painting
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Apr 27, 2022 03:31
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Everyone who liked Murmur of the Heart really wanted to gently caress their mom
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Apr 27, 2022 03:34
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Manager Hoyden posted:There are tons of things people like but disagree with. See almonds, bottled water, social media, most electronics, their home, air travel, nutella, meat, nearly every movie ever made, their clothes, their shower, and more and more and more So what part are you disagreeing with? Because it looks like you know all those things are indeed political and carry the weight of class/race/etc issues, you just don't want people talking about it. Byzantine has a new favorite as of 04:11 on Apr 27, 2022 |
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Apr 27, 2022 04:09
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Shibawanko posted:you dont have to agree with a joke to think its funny
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Apr 27, 2022 05:50
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Tiggum posted:Is this about someone criticising you for telling a racist joke? no. i was thinking of when people tried to have fyad deleted, for example
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Apr 27, 2022 07:47
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Why did people want FYAD to be deleted? I've been wanting that for two decades goddamn but this feels like you're referring to a specific event.
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Apr 27, 2022 08:05
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credburn posted:Why did people want FYAD to be deleted? I've been wanting that for two decades goddamn but this feels like you're referring to a specific event. A combination of FYAD going too far in making fun of a group of trans goons, people being tired of FYAD in general, and a sociopathic mod trying to leverage the situation into control of the website
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Apr 27, 2022 08:10
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Is FYAD the one where everyone is a cat or an anime person and speaks in speech bubbles or is that the other weird sub forum i know i could just look myself but im scared what ill see
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Apr 27, 2022 08:15
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Leave pyf? That seems like a recipe for a bad and confusing time! No, thank you!
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Apr 27, 2022 08:26
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Shibawanko posted:this reads like a textbook definition of narcissism though. its true for most people but its a boring and isolating way to live Not especially? What we agree with and believe in usually has at least a passing connection to what we find good in the world. I fail to see how it is narcistic to go "i like this thing because it shows me that the world has some connection with how I see it, or how I wish it was". I don't agree with the points of view of Marcus Aurelius but I'll still read the meditations. However all too often "joking" appears to be a way to hurt folks in a way that is socially acceptable. I don't know a thing about FYAD, nor do I honestly care.
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Apr 27, 2022 08:29
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Remember when a goon started an excel spreadsheet of "suspected FYAD posters" so they could be purged once the take over went through? That was a totally normal thing for someone to do. That whole drama was probably one of the lowest stakes witch hunts of all time.
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Josef bugman posted:Not especially? What we agree with and believe in usually has at least a passing connection to what we find good in the world. I fail to see how it is narcistic to go "i like this thing because it shows me that the world has some connection with how I see it, or how I wish it was". i like things because theyre well done or well made, not because i agree with them or confirm some view i have or don't have
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Apr 27, 2022 15:50
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Shibawanko posted:you dont have to agree with a joke to think its funny lol
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Apr 27, 2022 16:40
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Shibawanko posted:i like things because theyre well done or well made, not because i agree with them or confirm some view i have or don't have Hey check out what I just left in the toilet for you
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Apr 27, 2022 16:41
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What makes something we'll made though? One person may find Nicholas Cages acting ridiculous, others find it charming. Even Keanu Reeves has had a critical reappraisal of his acting techniques in the modern time period when most critics of the early 21st century consider it excrecable. What you like is still culturally composed, and informed by politics and world view. It's also good to interrogate why we enjoy certain things. A better understanding of oneself is a path to good things.
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technically it's not good when baseball umpires get hurt, but I still think it's funny
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alexandriao posted:Hey check out what I just left in the toilet for you no need, i can just press your history button
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Josef bugman posted:It's also good to interrogate why we enjoy certain things. A better understanding of oneself is a path to good things. you don't do that by just liking things you agree with though
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Byzantine posted:So what part are you disagreeing with? Because it looks like you know all those things are indeed political and carry the weight of class/race/etc issues, you just don't want people talking about it.
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Apr 27, 2022 17:12
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Byzantine posted:So what part are you disagreeing with? Because it looks like you know all those things are indeed political and carry the weight of class/race/etc issues, you just don't want people talking about it. It's not that I don't want people talking about it I just don't want them talking about it to me Mostly because it's boring, but also I'm sure not going to do anything about it nor am I ever going to feel even slightly ashamed so there's really no point to an unsolicited lecture from some nobody in the first place
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Apr 27, 2022 17:35
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Please don't disagree with me because I don't care
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Shibawanko posted:you don't do that by just liking things you agree with though Sure I suppose, but liking what you like does usually means that you agree with some aspect of it.
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It doesn't though. Like at all. It's an untrue statement that you're trying to use as the crux of your argument
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Apr 27, 2022 17:59
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Gaius Marius posted:It doesn't though. Like at all. It's an untrue statement that you're trying to use as the crux of your argument Well what is something you like that you fundamentally disagree with the premise of?
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Apr 27, 2022 18:01
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Saturn devouring his son A famous example of endorsement of eating your kid, which you must agree with if you like goya at all
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Manager Hoyden posted:Saturn devouring his son I thought that with the black paintings the point was to evoke feelings of despair and pain. They can be good descriptors of those emotions, but I was more meaning works who are less about evoke emotion directly than telling a story.
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Josef bugman posted:Well what is something you like that you fundamentally disagree with the premise of? NGL I didn't read any other posts in this argument, but westerns, chivalric tales
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