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Just a heads up for folks - Season 12 of the Oath Thread is almost over. Season 13 is starting soon if you want to join in and get motivated - https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4000606
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# ? May 25, 2024 13:28 |
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Been working with speedpaints all week and I’m really pleased with the amount of shading and highlights they generate without much effort. Still need to hit them with varnish and clean up a few spots but each of these were around 20 minutes each and one layer with some blend. Probably going to use speed paint for most board game pieces that I want to quickly paint and not spend too much time on. Just the speedpaint starter and Vallejo Metal Color.
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# ? Apr 28, 2022 01:41 |
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I have some old figures I want to re-paint to experiment with Speed Paints. Will I be fine just priming them without removing the old paint? None of it is thick, mostly contrast paints.
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# ? Apr 28, 2022 18:16 |
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Bottom Liner posted:I have some old figures I want to re-paint to experiment with Speed Paints. Will I be fine just priming them without removing the old paint? None of it is thick, mostly contrast paints. I have a tester Marine that I've re-primed and painted like 4 times and most of the detail looks fine. Not pristine, but totally fine as a tester.
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# ? Apr 28, 2022 18:24 |
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Lawlicaust posted:Been working with speedpaints all week and I’m really pleased with the amount of shading and highlights they generate without much effort. Still need to hit them with varnish and clean up a few spots but each of these were around 20 minutes each and one layer with some blend. Probably going to use speed paint for most board game pieces that I want to quickly paint and not spend too much time on. what is the groundcover you have here? it looks awesome.
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# ? Apr 28, 2022 18:56 |
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Bottom Liner posted:I have some old figures I want to re-paint to experiment with Speed Paints. Will I be fine just priming them without removing the old paint? None of it is thick, mostly contrast paints. You shouldn’t have an issue. Speedpaints are mutable when they are the top layer. So if you have an unvarnished top layer of speedpaint and added fresh paint, you may run into some reblending. You should not have an issue with putting speedpaint over other long dried paint and it blending.
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# ? Apr 28, 2022 18:57 |
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punishedkissinger posted:what is the groundcover you have here? it looks awesome. A base layer of Vallejo Earth Texture: Vallejo Brown Earth Gel, 200ml https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0044LDRGU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_C8VYXY8PPZZJBCJ3MAEY This texture shapes or blends pretty well and looks a lot like dirt when it dries. Really easy to add rocks to it or other items to let it drive around them. Covered by these leaves: Realistic Miniature Leaves Simulation Leaves for DIY Mini Model Railway Fairy Garden Architecture Diorama Scenery Landscape Layout, Pack of 4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09JBXW8WW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ZAJ8WFXCZ5A55HHA0EER?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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# ? Apr 28, 2022 19:05 |
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Do I have to squeeze out extra mediom from AP Speedpaints like from their normal paints, or not?Lawlicaust posted:Realistic Miniature Leaves Simulation Leaves for DIY Mini Model Railway Fairy Garden Architecture Diorama Scenery Landscape Layout, Pack of 4 So many words to say "birch seed pods".
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# ? Apr 28, 2022 22:29 |
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Pierzak posted:Do I have to squeeze out extra mediom from AP Speedpaints like from their normal paints, or not? I just shake and use. Some bottles have different viscosity but I haven’t had excess medium. Pierzak posted:So many words to say "birch seed pods". SEO! All the words.
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# ? Apr 28, 2022 22:54 |
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I have to finish the leather I just realized I forgot but I think that's where I want it. The armies base is sandstone bricks but I'm conflicted with basing it with garish 80s grass flock and a goblin green base instead even though they don't match the rest of the army. Cameras can be cruel. Harvey Mantaco fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Apr 29, 2022 |
# ? Apr 29, 2022 18:43 |
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After a few years away from the hobby, I’m returning to find that a lot of my paint is of course in bad shape and my brushes worse. What’s the story with Kolinsky sable in the US now? I used to buy brushes from Rosemary & Co but their site says they can’t ship Kolinskys to the US anymore. Are there decent alternatives? I’m not married to Rosemary (I look back fondly at the love we shared for a time though) but I don’t know if there are better synthetics now or if there’s something else anyone would recommend. I’ve bought W & N Series 7s from Amazon with the standard mixed-to-poor results. Who are the vendors most reliable or preferred now? Thanks I’m advance for any help you can through a really rusty painter.
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# ? Apr 29, 2022 19:30 |
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Harvey Mantaco posted:I have to finish the leather I just realized I forgot but I think that's where I want it. i think it looks great. my only criticism is the inconsistent rivets. love the colors and blending though!
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# ? Apr 29, 2022 19:39 |
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Harvey Mantaco posted:I have to finish the leather I just realized I forgot but I think that's where I want it. What's your method for the gold nmm? It seems like it would be a fairly simple approach but the results are great.
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# ? Apr 29, 2022 19:43 |
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punishedkissinger posted:i think it looks great. my only criticism is the inconsistent rivets. love the colors and blending though! My mom txtd me shade about the rivets right before I read your reply. ... Judy? (Yeah I'm going to touch them up while I finish the leather) The nmm is the scale 75 nmm gold kit with an orange citadel glaze (that kit is good but really needs a glaze of orange or it looks like sandstone)
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# ? Apr 29, 2022 20:13 |
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edit: thumbnailed, didn't realize it was so big, sorry GreenBuckanneer fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Apr 29, 2022 |
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Ellaybee posted:After a few years away from the hobby, I’m returning to find that a lot of my paint is of course in bad shape and my brushes worse. What’s the story with Kolinsky sable in the US now? I used to buy brushes from Rosemary & Co but their site says they can’t ship Kolinskys to the US anymore. Well sable brushes aren't banned anymore so that's not a problem. Winsor & Newton Series 7 (not the short handle one) and Raphael 8404 are the highly recommended expensive Kolinsky sable brushes but there's a bunch of other brands nowadays that are decent. Dick Blick should have Winsor & Newtons you can inspect before you buy if you want to try them again otherwise you'll have to figure out what online retailer sells what. Artis Opus should sell some very overpriced sable and dry brushes for miniature painting if you want to go that route. Jackson's Art Supplies in the UK has an online store that ships worldwide and they have almost everything but you just might have to wait A Few Months due to *waves generally at Brexit and Covid*
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# ? Apr 29, 2022 20:38 |
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I had a grey-primed Orruk Shaman sitting on my desk and an hour to kill while I listened to a meeting, so I tested out the SpeedPaint starter kit. Verdict: it's really good! I think it would benefit more from a zenithal undercoat than flat grey, but I wouldn't be mad putting this on the table (after basing), which is nice for maybe a 15 minute paint job. Edit-- my only complaint is I wish I had more colors.
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# ? Apr 29, 2022 20:59 |
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OK this is a very dumb question but until now I've bought exclusively MSP paints (in dropper bottles) and drop a few drops into my pallette plus some flow improver (about 3:2 paint to FI) Bought my first pot of citadel paint because the purple was exactly what I wanted, but like? do I pour it out into the palette? seems messy? am I meant to dip my brush in the undercap ? then it's not thinned. not sure how to proceed, please advise as Nebula is naked currently
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# ? Apr 29, 2022 21:45 |
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Dip a brush in the cap, transfer brush-load of paint to the palette. Use a larger brush you don't like if you're going to be painting with a teeny detail brush, unless you only need a tiny dab of paint, but you probably want a bit more.
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# ? Apr 29, 2022 21:47 |
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Or a little spatula or something.
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# ? Apr 29, 2022 21:48 |
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Thin it on your palette
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# ? Apr 29, 2022 21:49 |
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Dip a brush in the cap, transfer brush-load of paint to the palette. Use a larger brush you don't like if you're going to be painting with a teeny detail brush, unless you only need a tiny dab of paint, but you probably want a bit more.
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# ? Apr 29, 2022 22:05 |
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2nd time painting fire, I don't hate it Also IDK how you psychos can paint on a dry palette. I used one today because I thought it would be overkill to take it out just for a pink-purple-black gradient and jesus I can't deal with that again.
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# ? Apr 29, 2022 22:21 |
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How have you guys enjoyed your speed(contrast) paints? I'm thinking of getting that pack, because i've been trying the handful of Citadel contrasts I have and I'm really enjoying them, but I don't have a lot of color variation. Yes, of course I could just make my own contrasts, but I guess it depends on how much effort I want to put into getting a good combination and mixing it myself I suppose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsqV6VrbjlA Using my existing, mostly citadel until I run out of particular pots and phase them out for other brands, I could probably make the homemade contrasts/speedpaint I want but that brings me up to another question, how do you deal with layering and highlights when using contrasts? Do you just fool around with similar shaded colors in your collection until you get a close neighbor and work your way up from that? I didn't have good results in trying to lighten the contrast paint itself because then you're not only mixing colors, but having to decrease the opacity to a more opaque from translucent.
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# ? Apr 29, 2022 23:59 |
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you put highlights in the undercoat (often with a zenithal) and if you wanna go further then just layer on whatever you want over it basically this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUpfnQrPMZE
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 00:10 |
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Shrecknet posted:OK this is a very dumb question but until now I've bought exclusively MSP paints (in dropper bottles) and drop a few drops into my pallette plus some flow improver (about 3:2 paint to FI) I have exactly one Citadel paint: blood for the blood god. I wanted a simple gore paint for some ghouls and it does that well. Except the loving bottle is a nightmare. It’s as if it was designed to be difficult to use, hard to close and easy to waste. Surely not GW.
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 00:11 |
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Buy speed paints and mix your own contrasts, imo. You can create a contrast like medium that works really well for cheap. There are a few contrast colors that are still good like apothecary white but I really like my homemade solution as much. Speedpaints are not something that people have been able to replicate yet. You can get some really awesome effects very quickly with speedpaints. Contrast can give great effects too but they aren’t much faster than just heavily thinning paints.
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 00:16 |
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Shrecknet posted:OK this is a very dumb question but until now I've bought exclusively MSP paints (in dropper bottles) and drop a few drops into my pallette plus some flow improver (about 3:2 paint to FI) Get dropper bottles and funnels and 100% replace the bottle. Citadel makes great paint in the worst possible bottles. I bought this set and it’s great: Adecco Precision Tip Applicator Bottle, Glue Applicator Bottles, 50 PCS 15ml Precision Tip Applicator Bottles with 10 Plastic Funnels, for Acrylic Painting, Quilling, Alcohol Ink(Precision Tip Bottle) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y9DT4SZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_BV7NVET5XJVRSSANNQYD?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 Comes with a bunch of funnels for pouring in the bottles. The metal tip is good for keeping the contrast paint from sticking to it. They perfectly fit 1 bottle of contrast paint. And they drop out a tiny drop at a time.
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 00:23 |
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GreenBuckanneer posted:
Wait. Lol, am I Bateman or Allen in this?
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 00:39 |
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Harvey Mantaco posted:Wait. Lol, am I Bateman or Allen in this? In that scene, Patrick is jealous of Paul's business card, practically dumbfounded edit: to be more verbose, I especially was impressed with the gradient, of both the green and the gold, especially the tip of the sword and the mask, and the back part of the headdress. I don't have any of that model but it looks so good, and I appreciate how much the color pops and isn't a grimdark look GreenBuckanneer fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Apr 30, 2022 |
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GreenBuckanneer posted:In that scene, Patrick is jealous of Paul's business card, practically dumbfounded Aww man that's so thoughtful to say - thank you!
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 03:51 |
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Beffer posted:I have exactly one Citadel paint: blood for the blood god. I wanted a simple gore paint for some ghouls and it does that well. I always assumed that they were designed to be usable if you don't have a palette. Their audience is mostly kids who are just looking to put some basic colour on their models and a bottle you can paint from is the simplest way of achieving that. Either that or inertia, given that they've been that way for 30+ years.
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 14:03 |
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Lawlicaust posted:Buy speed paints and mix your own contrasts, imo. You can create a contrast like medium that works really well for cheap. There are a few contrast colors that are still good like apothecary white but I really like my homemade solution as much. Speedpaints are not something that people have been able to replicate yet. What are your recipes for DIY contrast medium?
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 14:25 |
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Lumpy posted:What are your recipes for DIY contrast medium? I have a few dropper bottles with different ratios. 50/50 matte medium/flow improver and 50/50 matte medium/glazing medium are the most common I use. I put a drop of the paint on my palette then a drop of one of the mediums and either blend or just draw one through the other. I use a lot of inks with the mediums because of how much better the color flows and saturates with an ink.
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 14:33 |
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Ellaybee posted:After a few years away from the hobby, I’m returning to find that a lot of my paint is of course in bad shape and my brushes worse. What’s the story with Kolinsky sable in the US now? I used to buy brushes from Rosemary & Co but their site says they can’t ship Kolinskys to the US anymore. R&Co recommends the series 99 as a replacement and you can get them from their US distributor. https://windriverarts.com/Brushes.htm
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 15:09 |
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Beffer posted:I have exactly one Citadel paint: blood for the blood god. I wanted a simple gore paint for some ghouls and it does that well. The current jars are actually an improvement over the ones that came before, the godawful bolter shells. The current ones are the same ones that GW first used on the Foundation paints back in like 2003, when the regular line (including the inks ) were in hard plastic screw lid jars that looked like the shells from a boltgun. They're still poo poo compared to literally any dropper bottle, though
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 16:37 |
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If you pry off the lid and force it inside out you can remove all the wasted dry paint that accumulates so that you can actually close it and avoid even more wasted paint. I firmly believe that they are designed that way on purpose. I’m sure that there is a way that they could be adapted for a dropper if Citadel wanted.
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 17:10 |
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Professor Shark posted:If you pry off the lid and force it inside out you can remove all the wasted dry paint that accumulates so that you can actually close it and avoid even more wasted paint. I've seen some 3rd party tops that look like the tops of baby bottles that fit on citadel pots to convert them to dropper bottles. basically these: https://kickassmailorder.com/drop-top-reusable-paint-pot-dropper-bottle-converter/ but i'd rather just buy vallejo, scale75, golden, army painter, pro-acryl etc. Cheaper, often better quality, more colors, you name it. If i'm not mixing contrast paints together I don't mind them in the citadel pots though. They're not so thick that they collect on the rim and gum up on the edges like their regular paints. And I can use exactly how much I want instead of being all paranoid about wasting the few microliters of excess on the palette when I'm using just a little teeny tiny bit like for eyes. But that's the tiniest optimistic upside I can think about with respect to those designs as the little bit I would save not dropping some on a palette is far offset by the inevitable spill from toppling over an open pot. When using contrast paints on larger scale stuff I'd rather just drybrush with lovely craft paint anyway.
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 17:22 |
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Those look awesome, I don’t know if I’d be able to justify the cost though It’d be great if Citadel did it, though
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 17:42 |
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Silhouette posted:The current jars are actually an improvement over the ones that came before, the godawful bolter shells. The current ones are the same ones that GW first used on the Foundation paints back in like 2003
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