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Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

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NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

who is permabanned poster Unoriginal Name????

Sherbert Hoover
Dec 12, 2019

Working hard, thank you!

NeatHeteroDude posted:

who is permabanned poster Unoriginal Name????

you, statistically

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth
i think it'd be funny if Smythe had to recreate some classic college pranks

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
i’m not very good at using the computer, is there a phone number i can call to leave my feedback

also free Benghazi 2

Dixon Chisholm
Jan 2, 2020
What did unoriginal name do that was so bad to keep getting permaed for? Doxxing? Threats?

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

NeatHeteroDude posted:

who is permabanned poster Unoriginal Name????

it’s so unoriginal that i literally cannot remember this poster

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Dixon Chisholm posted:

What did unoriginal name do that was so bad to keep getting permaed for? Doxxing? Threats?

I'm also curious

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Based on perusing his rapsheet, the answer appears to be "posted in D&D".

A grim reminder for us all in these dark times.

(A small sample of his CSPAM posts didn't leave me with a particularly favorable impression but there are worse people who yet run free.)

Quotey
Aug 16, 2006

We went out for lunch and then we stopped for some bubble tea.
Bring back the catchphrase rule.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

NeatHeteroDude posted:

who is permabanned poster Unoriginal Name????

Their perma is, to the best of my knowledge, entirely related to conduct within D&D. They've been very vocal here about their dislike for the mods there, which I feel compelled to say is not against the rules here but their perma was before my time as a mod so I don't really know the specifics.

Also, it would be really nice if this thread could focus on C-SPAM issues and not become feedback on D&D or D&D moderation though, so like not threatening to probe folks or anything, just asking politely that we not steer in that direction.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

As for actual feedback...

I dunno, seems fine I guess? CSPAM does feel like it's in a better place than it's been for a while, certain recent brick-related incidents notwithstanding. The current downsides of the place are social problems that can't really be addressed by moderation and aren't all that egregious in the grand scheme.

And not to beat this particular dead horse too much, but a forum ban that basically no one in the forum actually wants and is being imposed ultimately by Jeffrey (and that, not for nothing, it took ages to get a straight answer from him about) still leaves a bit of a bad taste. I guess "don't wish death on other posters even as a joke or a toothless expression of general frustration" is a reasonable enough line in the sand to draw though.

Quotey posted:

Bring back the catchphrase rule.

When the gently caress did CSPAM ever have a catchphrase rule? Certainly not one that was ever enforced.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Quotey posted:

Bring back the catchphrase rule.

What's the catchphrase rule?

please don't let this be an updog thing

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Moderation in cspam is in a good place. The Ukraine thread is now readable and the libs are biting on troll posts with wild abandon.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

docbeard posted:

And not to beat this particular dead horse too much, but a forum ban that basically no one in the forum actually wants and is being imposed ultimately by Jeffrey (and that, not for nothing, it took ages to get a straight answer from him about) still leaves a bit of a bad taste. I guess "don't wish death on other posters even as a joke or a toothless expression of general frustration" is a reasonable enough line in the sand to draw though.

I guess it's worth clarifying that neither I nor Jeffrey took those as felicitous death threats. Rather we took it as an especially bad sort of memetic posting that we didn't want on this site. And yeah, on the whole it's worth deferring to the big post Jeffrey made in QCS or one of the feedback threads that one time. That post is still authoritative.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Bring back the genocide megathread. It never even had a chance to cause a single insane meltdown

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

some plague rats posted:

Bring back the genocide megathread. It never even had a chance to cause a single insane meltdown

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

free larry

close the internet cum warriors thread

keep war porn out of cspam

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

some plague rats posted:

Bring back the genocide megathread. It never even had a chance to cause a single insane meltdown

I could go post about materialism in the historical materialism thread if half a dozen mild meltdowns would do

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

The Voice of Labor posted:

I could go post about materialism in the historical materialism thread if half a dozen mild meltdowns would do

That would absolutely soothe my troubled mind

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Azathoth posted:

Their perma is, to the best of my knowledge, entirely related to conduct within D&D. They've been very vocal here about their dislike for the mods there, which I feel compelled to say is not against the rules here but their perma was before my time as a mod so I don't really know the specifics.

Also, it would be really nice if this thread could focus on C-SPAM issues and not become feedback on D&D or D&D moderation though, so like not threatening to probe folks or anything, just asking politely that we not steer in that direction.

This is dumb. You're saying that just because the D&D mods are crybabies this poster isn't allowed to post in CSPAM, and we're not allowed to talk about that here?

But I guess even then it's only a fraction of how dumb this is:

Hand Knit posted:

I guess it's worth clarifying that neither I nor Jeffrey took those as felicitous death threats. Rather we took it as an especially bad sort of memetic posting that we didn't want on this site. And yeah, on the whole it's worth deferring to the big post Jeffrey made in QCS or one of the feedback threads that one time. That post is still authoritative.

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Hand Knit posted:

I guess it's worth clarifying that neither I nor Jeffrey took those as felicitous death threats. Rather we took it as an especially bad sort of memetic posting that we didn't want on this site. And yeah, on the whole it's worth deferring to the big post Jeffrey made in QCS or one of the feedback threads that one time. That post is still authoritative.

lmao this is some incredibly bitchmade poo poo and you know it

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
only post felicitous death threats itt

also anyone who caught a perma over thoughtcrime by the d&d mods, of all people, should have that perma overturned. railing against the mods as dipshits is the only real extant feedback mechanism SA has, and the d&d mods are incredible dipshits by any normal standard.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

500 good dogs posted:

This is dumb. You're saying that just because the D&D mods are crybabies this poster isn't allowed to post in CSPAM, and we're not allowed to talk about that here?

I didn't mean to be dismissive and if folks want to vent, go ahead I guess, but don't expect a response from any C-SPAM mods because their perma isn't for behavior in C-SPAM and honestly it is probably something that would be better handled with a QCS thread or by talking to Koos or an admin since they weren't perma'ed for anything to do with C-SPAM

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

Azathoth posted:

Their perma is, to the best of my knowledge, entirely related to conduct within D&D. They've been very vocal here about their dislike for the mods there, which I feel compelled to say is not against the rules here but their perma was before my time as a mod so I don't really know the specifics.

Also, it would be really nice if this thread could focus on C-SPAM issues and not become feedback on D&D or D&D moderation though, so like not threatening to probe folks or anything, just asking politely that we not steer in that direction.

I think moderation in C-SPAM is good. I haven't really seen anything that's egregious or stupid, and i don't rank 6 hour probes for small things very highly because it's just like, 6 hours. 6 hours is a very short period of time. I agree with all the Goatstein probes but also like how people in the Glenn thread aren't probed for being aggro because it lets me see people arguing different points and perspectives (which I appreciate). It's also one of the only places i've posted where people don't have an insane hair-trigger for fighting people who have questions about politics. it's a good place even if it is the only place people can retard without getting probated.

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Azathoth posted:

I didn't mean to be dismissive and if folks want to vent, go ahead I guess, but don't expect a response from any C-SPAM mods because their perma isn't for behavior in C-SPAM and honestly it is probably something that would be better handled with a QCS thread or by talking to Koos or an admin since they weren't perma'ed for anything to do with C-SPAM

idgi, why do you want a QCS thread? just say what they caught a perma for. i don’t want to have to go play detective to try to figure it out, and this just makes it look more like a shady grudge-perma.

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

Fly Molo posted:

only post felicitous death threats itt

also anyone who caught a perma over thoughtcrime by the d&d mods, of all people, should have that perma overturned. railing against the mods as dipshits is the only real extant feedback mechanism SA has, and the d&d mods are incredible dipshits by any normal standard.



Fly Molo posted:

lmao this is some incredibly bitchmade poo poo and you know it

this isn't meant to be rude or anything but people take the ability to post under one specific profile on the forums insanely loving seriously. hate-reading and hate-posting takes so much effort and mental bandwidth that i'm always very surprised when people do it super consistently about the same poo poo all the time every day. I truly don't understand what has to happen to my mentality about SA before i genuinely care about a poster getting permaed forever ago for behavior in a different subforum. it seems very extreme to care this much about this kind of stuff.

i'm not claiming my life is so interesting and cool that I wouldn't be annoyed if I were banned for some bullshit reason, but c'mon. I also can't imagine explaining this kind of thing to someone in person and expecting them to grasp why it's even remotely worth getting pissed about

e: and this isn't even about being banned. it's about someone else being banned for something that happened somewhere else, being addressed to someone who has no control at all over what happens there

NeatHeteroDude has issued a correction as of 00:23 on Apr 30, 2022

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Fly Molo posted:

idgi, why do you want a QCS thread? just say what they caught a perma for. i don’t want to have to go play detective to try to figure it out, and this just makes it look more like a shady grudge-perma.

Since I posted that, someone saw my post about not knowing and clarified to me that they were perma'ed for repeatedly evading probation in D&D.

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

NeatHeteroDude posted:

6 hours is a very short period of time.

You've never given birth before.

Dixon Chisholm
Jan 2, 2020

Azathoth posted:

Since I posted that, someone saw my post about not knowing and clarified to me that they were perma'ed for repeatedly evading probation in D&D.

Holy poo poo lol
What cowards


(cspam modding is mostly fine)

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dixon Chisholm posted:

Holy poo poo lol
What cowards


(cspam modding is mostly fine)

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

some plague rats posted:

That would absolutely soothe my troubled mind

can it wait a day or two? kinda busy with work and crafting a legitimate, true post that will make animeistrash mad enough to call me the mod slur isn't something that can really be forced

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Dixon Chisholm posted:

Holy poo poo lol
What cowards


(cspam modding is mostly fine)

But again, this is D&D drama and I get that sometimes it spills over into C-SPAM but if folks have beef about poo poo that happens outside C-SPAM I'm just politely asking folks to take it up with people who are actually involved.

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

Calibanibal posted:

You've never given birth before.

that's true, and i regret my words.

Lux Anima
Apr 17, 2016


Dinosaur Gum
Don't have much feedback:
The mods have been excellent at communicating with the non-mod posters in the UK//RU thread while also allowing the thread to 'breathe'.
I feel like they deftly handled the hot potato of the entire forums' attentions suddenly being put onto a single CSPAM thread as some kind of gauge for whether CSPAM should continue existing, and the danger has now mostly passed it feels.

I also feel like a lot of the current mods and IKs of CSpam have their hearts in the right places, too, in that there aren't too many that stand out as having huge personalities (w/e that means) that would desire to dominate conversations. This is a bittersweet moment for me, personally, because I don't think I can pay any more attention to the respective mods' actions without coming up with *something* that could reasonably be complained about, so... In the court of my opinion, it's only downhill from here, mods! Use your time wisely.

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
im ok with larry being banned from cspam not because of the death stuff but because he can't stop using slurs ever and it makes the people who obsess about being able to use slurs very upset and I think that's very funny.

cspam modding seems pretty good to me these days

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
^^tbh he can be pretty abrasive, but i feel compelled to give them poo poo for permabanning any poster over a fish bone joke. especially if it’s on the basis of “we thought his dangerous memes would infect people.”

NeatHeteroDude posted:

this isn't meant to be rude or anything but people take the ability to post under one specific profile on the forums insanely loving seriously. hate-reading and hate-posting takes so much effort and mental bandwidth that i'm always very surprised when people do it super consistently about the same poo poo all the time every day. I truly don't understand what has to happen to my mentality about SA before i genuinely care about a poster getting permaed forever ago for behavior in a different subforum. it seems very extreme to care this much about this kind of stuff.

i'm not claiming my life is so interesting and cool that I wouldn't be annoyed if I were banned for some bullshit reason, but c'mon. I also can't imagine explaining this kind of thing to someone in person and expecting them to grasp why it's even remotely worth getting pissed about

e: and this isn't even about being banned. it's about someone else being banned for something that happened somewhere else, being addressed to someone who has no control at all over what happens there

larry is funny and entertaining and (generally) gets mad at the right people. effectively permabanning him from cspam over ‘felicitous memes’ or ‘bad vibes’ or whatever is loving stupid. especially when it’s to protect the feelings of a dipshit former d&d mod who works for the CIA and literally helped get a bunch of black people lynched during the dismantling of libya.

hell, ill say it: it’s racist against latinos. :colbert:

lobotomy molo has issued a correction as of 00:39 on Apr 30, 2022

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

The Voice of Labor posted:

can it wait a day or two? kinda busy with work and crafting a legitimate, true post that will make animeistrash mad enough to call me the mod slur isn't something that can really be forced

excited for you to produce some of the least funny most retarded stuff yet

don't let me down, champ

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

The Voice of Labor posted:

can it wait a day or two? kinda busy with work and crafting a legitimate, true post that will make animeistrash mad enough to call me the mod slur isn't something that can really be forced

sorry, who? I only know of AnimeLstrash.

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The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

NeatHeteroDude posted:

this isn't meant to be rude or anything but people take the ability to post under one specific profile on the forums insanely loving seriously. hate-reading and hate-posting takes so much effort and mental bandwidth that i'm always very surprised when people do it super consistently about the same poo poo all the time every day. I truly don't understand what has to happen to my mentality about SA before i genuinely care about a poster getting permaed forever ago for behavior in a different subforum. it seems very extreme to care this much about this kind of stuff.

i'm not claiming my life is so interesting and cool that I wouldn't be annoyed if I were banned for some bullshit reason, but c'mon. I also can't imagine explaining this kind of thing to someone in person and expecting them to grasp why it's even remotely worth getting pissed about

e: and this isn't even about being banned. it's about someone else being banned for something that happened somewhere else, being addressed to someone who has no control at all over what happens there

I think it's more a chilling effect thing and a slippery slope thing. when someone gets banned for pointing out something that's true, that tends to stifle other things that should be posted from being posted. also sa is such a tiny ecosystem, loosing even one decent poster can be noticeable. giving a gently caress about leftist politics, or foreign affairs is a pretty niche thing in the anglosphere, so the posting pool is even smaller. without the petty arguments and white noise posts, the forums are empty and silent, those are the grist of good posts, the idle chatter that sustains a conversation until someone thinks of something actually worth saying. the attrition that silences the piss and the trmpf limits the rare quality post just as much

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