No, Felicia has already moved on and closed the door on that relationship.
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 23:29 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 19:24 |
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No door is ever permanently closed in comics. Felicia and Peter are a good pair too.
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 23:33 |
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I feel like Felicia is at her worst in SM comics. She’s got a solo and then a mini. Let her just be that
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 23:48 |
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I mean, I just want to see Marvel or DC commit to a prominent marriage that works. Is there one that exists in either major continuity? Reed and Sue I guess.
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 23:54 |
The team up with her and MJ was wonderful and the conversation they had about Peter was perfect. I used to want Spidey and cat together if he couldn't be with MJ, but not after that. It was a perfect adult ending of their romantic relationship and transition into a platonic friendship.
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 23:54 |
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Nilbop posted:I mean, I just want to see Marvel or DC commit to a prominent marriage that works. Is there one that exists in either major continuity? Reed and Sue I guess. Scott and Jean and Wolverine?
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# ? May 1, 2022 00:00 |
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Superman and Lois works pretty well with the exception of that short period where they tried to make Superman a green hero
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# ? May 1, 2022 00:12 |
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billy and teddy haven't gotten divorced yet
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# ? May 1, 2022 00:14 |
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It's time for Spider-Man x Firestar
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# ? May 1, 2022 00:28 |
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going to be real and say that the Peter/MJ marriage basically did not work until JMS and I honestly don't know if it would have worked afterwards. The storytelling around that relationship in the 90's was dire as gently caress, and I don't think that's an inherent problem with either character, but it was clear writers just did not want to do anything with the marriage and either minimized it, found ways to write MJ out of stories entirely, or siloed her off into lovely b-plots that never amounted to anything. Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 00:33 on May 1, 2022 |
# ? May 1, 2022 00:28 |
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Nilbop posted:I mean, I just want to see Marvel or DC commit to a prominent marriage that works. Is there one that exists in either major continuity? Reed and Sue I guess. Luke and Jessica?
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# ? May 1, 2022 00:37 |
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These are the married couples I can think of that exist right now: Ben Grimm and Alicia Masters Hulkling and Wiccan Reed and Sue Scott and Jean Black Bolt and Medusa Northstar and Kyle Luke Cage and Jessica Jones Rogue and Gambit Jamie Madrox and Layla Miller Brian Braddock and Meggan Dr. Strange and Clea (even though he's dead)
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# ? May 1, 2022 00:38 |
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Codependent Poster posted:These are the married couples I can think of that exist right now: Mystique and Destiny are back, for better or worse.
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# ? May 1, 2022 00:48 |
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Codependent Poster posted:These are the married couples I can think of that exist right now:
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# ? May 1, 2022 01:19 |
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Nilbop posted:I mean, I just want to see Marvel or DC commit to a prominent marriage that works. Is there one that exists in either major continuity? Reed and Sue I guess. It's weird, but I went on a Silver Age tear towards the end of last year, and it really does feel like Reed and Sue are only still together out of institutional momentum. Luke and Jessica might have the most functional marriage in Marvel at the moment.
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# ? May 1, 2022 01:20 |
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it's much easier when you're never in a book
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# ? May 1, 2022 01:23 |
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The X-man cometh posted:Mystique and Destiny are back, for better or worse. Oh yeah, and I guess Apocalypse and his wife Genesis count too Jean and Scott are not married to Wolverine, that doesn't count. Oh and Doug and his large wife Bei
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# ? May 1, 2022 01:28 |
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Can't believe you forgot Doug and his Large Wife
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# ? May 1, 2022 03:28 |
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I think I'm in the same boast as everyone else when it comes to the new ASM: the Peter/MJ setup doesn't interest me, but the rest seems fun. I like the idea of Spider-Man having to stop a major underground crime kerfuffle while dealing with a personal connection to it. Plus, I think Wells has a good handle on writing Tombstone. I hope he gets to stay a main character for a while. I also think this is the best JRJR's art has looked in a while. A lot of that is probably down to Menyz doing a good job on the colours, but all that matters in that end is that it serves the story well. e: I also think they should stop bringing Peter's life back to square one with every new writer. Let the poor lad make some progress in his life for once. JordanKai fucked around with this message at 04:53 on May 1, 2022 |
# ? May 1, 2022 03:58 |
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drrockso20 posted:
Peter trying to navigate the awful art world to sell his photographs, doing wedding photos every weekend to make ends meet while juggling being Spider-Man would be fun.
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# ? May 1, 2022 04:51 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:Superman and Lois works pretty well with the exception of that short period where they tried to make Superman a green hero Didn't the New 52 try and push Clark and Diana for a long while or did I get the wrong impression there? Maybe that was just in the cartoon movies.
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# ? May 1, 2022 05:36 |
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Nilbop posted:Didn't the New 52 try and push Clark and Diana for a long while or did I get the wrong impression there? Maybe that was just in the cartoon movies. I don't know how long they pushed it, but it was definitely a thing for a hot minute.
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# ? May 1, 2022 05:39 |
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Blockhouse posted:going to be real and say that the Peter/MJ marriage basically did not work until JMS and I honestly don't know if it would have worked afterwards. I mean let’s be real, Spider-Man in the 90s was really bad. Like for as popular a character as SM is, his main book has been absolutely dire more often than not at this point
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# ? May 1, 2022 09:04 |
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Codependent Poster posted:These are the married couples I can think of that exist right now: I just realized it's a bit weird how Scott and Jean basically picked up where they left off before his affair with Emma, considering that Jean was dead for ~15ish years in realtime, during which Scott got radicalized and then died Seems like there could be a few interesting conversations there that were never really featured. And we haven't really seen Jean interact with Hope, who is effectively her granddaughter, either.
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# ? May 1, 2022 09:48 |
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OnimaruXLR posted:I just realized it's a bit weird how Scott and Jean basically picked up where they left off before his affair with Emma, considering that Jean was dead for ~15ish years in realtime, during which Scott got radicalized and then died I imagine her being able to read minds plus having experienced some of that period retroactively through her teen self being around for a while probably sped up the whole catching up thing, not to mention that due to the sliding timeline it had probably only been about 3 to 5 years at the most between Magneto killing her and her getting brought back in universe
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# ? May 1, 2022 12:07 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean let’s be real, Spider-Man in the 90s was really bad. I can argue it’s been mostly “there” rather than dire. Of course a lot of that depends on how you feel about one certain writer. Overall it hasn’t been too bad for the last 35 years Roger Stern era - probably the quintessential writer after Stan/Steve/Romita. A glorious run by a guy who not only “got” Spidey, but also Peter and the supporting cast. Tom DeFalco era - a really good run with some fun stories and more actual growth for Peter Dave Micheline era - man did he write this book for a long time. Started out weird with the sudden marriage to MJ, but he did a lot with the young couple. Lord of great villains and supporting cast members. Mostly good stuff until you hit…. The Clone Saga era - the wheels really come off here. DeMatteis/deFalco/Byrne. Goes on for way too long, strays way too far from what Spidey is supposed to be, and nearly kills the entire line. Mackie/Byrne “relaunch” era - meh. Bogged down by Byrne’s Chapter One mini and his insurance on incorporating the concepts and costumes into the main book. It’s honestly best left forgotten. Anyone want a lollipop? JMS era - drat it’s been over 20 years since this started 😳. A truly great run that sadly got remembered as much for the Goblin Twins and the quesada ending as it did for the many high points. Another writer that really “got” both Peter AND Spider-Man and pushed the characters forward without seeming clunky or forced. “Brand New Day” era - meh. Some high points but I never cared for the new cast members and a lot of it is forgettable. The book basically just existed - not bad, not great, just there. Dan Slott era - it went on for a looooong time and had some good stories, even some great ones, but he’s a polarizing writer. I never thought he was as bad as he’s made out to be here, but your mileage may very. There’s some garbage in here for sure, but there’s also a ton of high points - a lot of cool concepts and really good stories, the best of which was Superior Spider-Man. He had fun writing this book and it showed nearly all the time. “Beyond” - yeah, you can throw this right in the garbage. Outside of the clone saga/relaunch era (which was admittedly a good chunk of time), ASM has been pretty good for drat near 40 years. Some mediocre runs to be sure, but also a majority of good-to-great stuff as well.
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# ? May 1, 2022 12:37 |
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I really liked Walt Simonson's short Beta Ray Bill story in the huge Thor 750 issue. They should bring him back to replace Cates for another long run.
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# ? May 1, 2022 15:07 |
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JordanKai posted:I think I'm in the same boast as everyone else when it comes to the new ASM: the Peter/MJ setup doesn't interest me, but the rest seems fun. I like the idea of Spider-Man having to stop a major underground crime kerfuffle while dealing with a personal connection to it. Plus, I think Wells has a good handle on writing Tombstone. I hope he gets to stay a main character for a while. Given his work with Kingpin I think Wells has real passion for organized crime stuff and it rules.
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# ? May 1, 2022 15:48 |
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In hindsight the main thing I like about the JMS run is that he did some interesting stuff with Peter's personal life, between May finally getting let in on the secret and the teaching thing, but all the Spider-Man stuff was... I didn't like it. The second he said Morlun hit harder than anyone else he's ever been hit by I was like "Oh, so it's gonna be like that, huh?" And then the rest of the run was that feeling slowly being magnified until I dipped out I liked Brand New Day for no other reason than the rotating cast of writers meant that even if you didn't like what was going on, give it a few months and it'd be someone else's turn
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# ? May 1, 2022 18:42 |
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Peter got clocked by the Hulk at least once, I also hated that Morlun poo poo. And that Slott took it and ran it into the loving ground.
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# ? May 1, 2022 19:10 |
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I mean yes that is the main appeal of JMS, Peter had spent most of the 90s after Michielle run in a stagnate bubble as writers tried to bring back the 80s without actually doing any 80s style stories. I also like some of the Back in Black stuff but I feel like OMD finally getting the 80s back undercut BIB really really hard
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# ? May 1, 2022 19:12 |
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Also I liked Morlun, he’s not interesting enough to come back or be a recurring villain but seeing SM being pushed by something they he couldn’t brute force was cool It reminded me of what Mutant Massacre did for 80s X-men.
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# ? May 1, 2022 19:18 |
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The X-man cometh posted:I really liked Walt Simonson's short Beta Ray Bill story in the huge Thor 750 issue.
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# ? May 1, 2022 19:57 |
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OnimaruXLR posted:
I think that line works better in hindsight. I seem to remember (god this is so long ago) that later on as we and Spider-Man learn how Morlun's powers work he's not just hitting Spider-Man with blunt force but absorbing a part of him each time. So each hit feels like it is so much worse than a mere super strength punch. It's what Spider-Man's eventual plan relies on, when he irradiates himself more so that Morlun poisons himself with each hit he lands.
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# ? May 1, 2022 20:46 |
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Honestly I feel like JMS' take on the totem stuff would have been remembered a lot more fondly if he'd just let it lie with The Book of Ezekiel, where it was left ultimately ambiguous. That's also when JRJR stopped on the book and right before Sins Past, so it's basically the perfect stopping point for the JMS run. Or at least to then skip ahead to Back In Black.
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# ? May 1, 2022 22:08 |
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Isn't Peter a famous photographer? He won a pulitzer, right?
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# ? May 1, 2022 23:45 |
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wiegieman posted:Isn't Peter a famous photographer? He won a pulitzer, right? for a photo of Sentry so don't think about that too hard
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# ? May 1, 2022 23:54 |
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He's published at least one book as well.
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# ? May 2, 2022 01:42 |
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Rhyno posted:He's published at least one book as well. Yeah, I remember when his book 'Webs' which was like a coffee table book for Spider-Man was a big deal for a while. It popped up now and then.
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# ? May 25, 2024 19:24 |
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It was also while McFarlane was on the book.
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# ? May 2, 2022 04:54 |