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Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

therattle posted:

I have my issues with Corbyn but if he stood as an independent I’d vote for him. If he didn’t then I don’t know. And I am not sure what to do for local elections. It should be the Greens but as has been described here they are suspect.

Who was the Labour activist whose resignation letter was posted here recently where people are being suspended for liking his tweets/FB posts but Labour didn’t actually move against him? David Rosenberg?

Yes here's his letter:

https://rebellion602.wordpress.com/2022/02/21/reaching-the-tipping-point/

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Clean Your Teeth
Jul 10, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

...lots...

don't really have much of a response, but this was an interesting post, thanks.

Mr Phillby
Apr 8, 2009

~TRAVIS~

Gort posted:

Over the last few years I've had this, "Starmer's a wrecker, his job is to kick the left out of every position of power in the party, then he'll step down and a "uniter" candidate will step up, allowing the left back in and allowing some token leftists into positions of not-much-power. This way the right stays in charge while still getting the votes from the left" theory. But it's been a hell of a long time and Starmer's still screaming that he desperately doesn't want my vote, so the theory's looking pretty goddamn threadbare by now.
They've told us who they are. Winning elections is only to be acheived via a right wing platform only. Its purely ideological despite the sensible forensic adults in charge saying its tatical. 'Electable' is not to be judged on actually winning elections afterall.

I don't think its a realistic scenario just something a little closer to the reality where i vote labour. Just pointing out to the people not completely disenfranchised by the labour right that if you do want to win scolding people into voting isn't the way to do it. Joking about 'infighting in the carpark' is just going to make things worse when a)thats all the labour right did under corbyn and b) thats all the labour right do under Starmer. Its a circular argument, if you want to move past that then you have to be the bigger man when it matters, not simply demand that of others when you're in charge.

Stop blaming people for not falling in line when you should be demanding your leader give us a reason to.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Clean Your Teeth posted:

don't really have much of a response, but this was an interesting post, thanks.

I got lost in my own brain trying to express that lot and forgot to make the actual point, which is that I think that all of that makes them very resistant to the idea of making radical changes to how the country operates, or anythng that would threaten that fundamental hegemony of tory/labour control. Yes it is possible that PR would change how the country works, but for that very reason I think that the current iteration of labour and the tories would not support it. It is very at odds, I think, with their apparent devotion to expanding state power and reducing democratic accountability for that power.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Noxville posted:

but either way I’m wondering if they’ve seen a weakness for Labour in this, a majority Muslim area of Bradford.
They have noticed that kieth is haram, containing more alcohol than can be explained by natural processes.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Guavanaut posted:

They have noticed that kieth is haram, containing more alcohol than can be explained by natural processes.

He's also very much a gammon

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
The Westminster cesspit needs cleaning out and sterilizing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXfBGE_yOv4

(Napalm death btw)

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
watching porn at work isn't a sackable offence. Being a coward about it makes you unfit to serve though

Mebh
May 10, 2010


I do wonder what would have happened if he'd said "yes and?" and just kept doubling down.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
he'd have bought some weird rear end tractors

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

NotJustANumber99 posted:

watching porn at work isn't a sackable offence
All depends on where you work, some of the earlier stories imply that call centres think very differently. From employment experience I'd say at very least it'd either have to be not open to the general public and set clear expectations in advance or assume that anyone using the toilets has that fabled 'good sense of humour'.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
its my phone and I'll watch porn on it all over

Like maybe not a children's playground, I'm not a mod

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

NotJustANumber99 posted:

wet rear end tractors

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

Ta

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


NotJustANumber99 posted:

he'd have bought some weird rear end tractors

What's an rear end tractor?

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
heaven loving forbid we try to hold MPs to a slightly higher standard then Phil the tech support guy

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Julio Cruz posted:

heaven loving forbid we try to hold MPs to a slightly higher standard then Phil the tech support guy

to whom are you replying?

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


https://twitter.com/cjayanetti/status/1520743718973808642

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
عيد مبارك

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

NotJustANumber99 posted:

its my phone and I'll watch porn on it all over

truly the greatest of hills to die on

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

NotJustANumber99 posted:

watching porn at work isn't a sackable offence. Being a coward about it makes you unfit to serve though

Actually it is in most workplaces.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Reminder that darling of the centre Jess Philips grinned her loving teeth inside out at losing an election, these loving ghouls are perfectly happy at losing eternally to the tories as long as they continue to get the free flat and telly fees for sitting there and saying they'd do the exact same as the tories, just with maybe 10% less contempt for anyone without an ancestral title.

This country is hosed and centrism is a disease. There are no 'good' choices any more. All of the things that would actually change politics or help people are completely disconnected from voter politics and you can't even name them outside of minecraft parodies.

I'm not going to criticise anyone who votes Labour because it's a wretched choice in the wretched system that is left to us. But I do continue to find it ridiculous when people trot out the line that that both parties are the same.

No it won't fix capitalism or inequality or the climate but nothing you do by voting will change those things. So you may as well use your vote to move the needle an inch, if that's all you can do. In an ideal world I'd be voting for Corbyn or someone with similar policies. But they took that choice away.

It's like if you were forced to choose between someone throwing poo poo in your mouth or poo poo on your face. I'd choose the face because it's the least bad of those choices, and if I don't choose then some arseholes are still going to choose mouth for me. Importantly, I'd also try to break free of whoever was making me make that choice, but that's not part of that choice.

I don't feel like I'm explaining my point very well but it's been a long, disappointing weekend of trying to de-transphobe my parents, along with putting some alternative ways of viewing the refugee crisis and working poor. I have realised how badly the papers have damaged the people of this country. We do not live in an ideal world. We do not have the luxury of ideological purity any more.

If the least bad is the the only vote I have, I'll grit my teeth and do it.

But you don't have to vote Red instead of Blue to move the needle. I think the only way really move the needle is for Labour to be shown that they can't simply take the left for granted, and the only way to do that is vote for another party or not vote for anyone. Vote Green if your local Green isn't a Terf, or TUSC or anyone but Labour or Tory.

E: to people saying that Labour almost voted in PR at conference, Starmer has already shown he's happy to ignore what conference says so I wouldn't put much faith in the wider party being able to force his direction.

Lungboy fucked around with this message at 09:08 on May 2, 2022

Shakespearean Beef
Jul 12, 2008

Ask me all about how I proudly marched alongside literal NEO-NAZIS to protest against the GOVERNMENT taking away our FREEDOMS because of nothing mote that the common FLU!!! I'm holding aloft the TORCH of FREEDOM!!
Remember when Left Unity tore itself apart over debating whether wanking at work was Virtuous

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Morningwoodpecker posted:

If it was a werestarmer would it still be able to use it's cool spy gadgets or would the claws get in the way do you think ?.

Even a man who is pure of heart
And each night says a prayer
May turn to a oval office when the Starmer blooms
And worship Tony Blair.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
keith party for sensible keiths and keithleens only

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Josef bugman posted:

Actually it is in most workplaces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKH9ECC_Qa4

Morningwoodpecker
Jan 17, 2016

I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE TO BE THIS STUPID

BUT HERE YOU ARE

Jedit posted:

Even a man who is pure of heart
And each night says a prayer
May turn to a oval office when the Starmer blooms
And worship Tony Blair.

:golfclap:

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
Local news update. :siren:


Unidentified object photographed flying over Torbay.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Josef bugman posted:

Actually it is in most workplaces.

Actually it isn't.

When I wore a lad, working in Tesco, the breakroom was full of discarded copies of the sun open on page 3.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Jippa posted:

Unidentified object photographed flying over Torbay.



someone didn't check the depth of the fabric of reality before sticking a drill bit through it

OzyMandrill
Aug 12, 2013

Look upon my words
and despair

Jippa posted:

Local news update. :siren:


Unidentified object photographed flying over Torbay.



Now that's an alien rod if ever I saw one!
No other possible explanation will suffice.
Aliens.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/philbc3/status/1520850026204909576?s=21&t=s97pHUEyJ5D0VHbQLhDPWA

Yay!

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

IIRC those are bugs flying across the camera lens and the way photos are captured makes them look like that.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Are you allowed to look at alien rods at work if you're an MP?

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Actually it isn't.

When I wore a lad, working in Tesco, the breakroom was full of discarded copies of the sun open on page 3.

I'm not sure what bit you're doing here, but I guess I'll engage.

In most workplaces, they don't let you wank or openly look at porn. I havent worked retail in a long time but I imagine that's true there as well, these days. Probably construction sites are one of the last bastions of workplace wank culture.

Although with the increased prevalence of WFH and the gig economy it's debatable how much the boss can really monitor or restrict your wanking habits. Keep it off the workplace devices, and don't indulge when in a communal setting. If you're a deliveroo driver pull over to the side of the road, or wait until Adrian Chiles lets you use his urinal

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Actually it isn't.

Look i think it's clear there's only one way of settling this. Put your money where your mouth is and have a wank to pornography at your place of work. As proof you will also need to film it with identifying details of both your place of work and yourself. Email it to your boss. Even if they fire you you will surely become the cause celebre of our times. Monuments to Rosa Parks will be torn down and replaced with you cranking it on the toilet

Morningwoodpecker
Jan 17, 2016

I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE TO BE THIS STUPID

BUT HERE YOU ARE

OwlFancier posted:

IIRC those are bugs flying across the camera lens and the way photos are captured makes them look like that.

Yes birds and insects. Motion blur makes the body look like a rod and the wing in motion look like a fin.

We agreed on something.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Angepain posted:

Look i think it's clear there's only one way of settling this. Put your money where your mouth is and have a wank to pornography at your place of work. As proof you will also need to film it with identifying details of both your place of work and yourself. Email it to your boss. Even if they fire you you will surely become the cause celebre of our times. Monuments to Rosa Parks will be torn down and replaced with you cranking it on the toilet

I'm self employed.

And I never said anything about wanking. There's other reasons to watch porn.

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Crank it at your desk you coward

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