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I was the dude who came late to the party and only read Spider-Verse after the movie came out and it's kinda crazy that to me everything about Morlun and his dumb planet of spider-eating steampunk vampires is profoundly lamer and less interesting than like, Spider-Ham.
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# ? May 2, 2022 07:18 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 02:16 |
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That's not crazy at all.
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# ? May 2, 2022 07:29 |
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I guess just relative to the time and prominence given to each but, yeah.
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# ? May 2, 2022 07:33 |
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Te really funny multiverse is so popular as it’s barely a story. It’s just characters running seounf for a bit then it ends
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# ? May 2, 2022 07:33 |
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Dawgstar posted:Yeah, I remember when his book 'Webs' which was like a coffee table book for Spider-Man was a big deal for a while. It popped up now and then. I 100% believe Kamala owns a copy. Right next to her copy of Marvels. (So does Coulson - or he did, before his heel-turn. Is he still evil?) Nilbop posted:I was the dude who came late to the party and only read Spider-Verse after the movie came out and it's kinda crazy that to me everything about Morlun and his dumb planet of spider-eating steampunk vampires is profoundly lamer and less interesting than like, Spider-Ham. Wasn't Slott's original concept for Spider-Gwen literally just her in her ASM 121 outfit, but in red & blue with webs? Plus of course Silk. That whole era seemed kind of burned out, creatively speaking. I forget, was it confirmed anywhere that the original plan was for it to take place during Superior with Otto as protagonist? That would close one of the biggest plot holes (ie why Peter didn't mention the radiation weakness immediately - although that's a misremembering of how it went down the first time with Peter irradiating himself to poison Morlun, rather than radiation just being their literal Kryptonite). Dammit I'm mad about Spider-Verse again.
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# ? May 2, 2022 07:57 |
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wiegieman posted:Isn't Peter a famous photographer? He won a pulitzer, right? Yep, relatable underdog Peter Parker in addition to having a cool super model wife also lives in luxury in his Manhattan penthouse.
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# ? May 2, 2022 10:53 |
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All of Peter Parkers news related awards and accolations should be revoked based on basic journalism ethics.
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# ? May 2, 2022 10:58 |
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Skwirl posted:All of Peter Parkers news related awards and accolations should be revoked based on basic journalism ethics. The Civil War tie-in we deserved but never got.
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# ? May 2, 2022 11:30 |
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Kind of a little surprised they never rebranded Pete as a streamer or influencer in the continuing mission to make him young, hip and relevant.
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# ? May 2, 2022 13:48 |
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Nilbop posted:Kind of a little surprised they never rebranded Pete as a streamer or influencer in the continuing mission to make him young, hip and relevant. That would require the middle-age guys writing comics to understand that whole lifestyle. Nowadays it wouldn't work because "young hip Spider-Man" is Miles' turf now
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# ? May 2, 2022 14:11 |
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TwoPair posted:That would require the middle-age guys writing comics to understand that whole lifestyle. Peter is so,ehow both young and hip and a loser30 year old.
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# ? May 2, 2022 14:39 |
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Skwirl posted:All of Peter Parkers news related awards and accolations should be revoked based on basic journalism ethics. Actually, it's about ethics in Spider-Man photojournalism. TwoPair posted:That would require the middle-age guys writing comics to understand that whole lifestyle. so basically a rerun of "beep boop computer internet" parker from Ultimate
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# ? May 2, 2022 14:44 |
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Weird thing about SpiderVerse was that there wasn’t a Spider-Man that was still bonded with the symbiote. But we did get Spider-Gwen, Spider Punk, SP//DR, and the comic debut of Japanese Spider-Man.
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# ? May 2, 2022 15:30 |
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Open Marriage Night posted:Weird thing about SpiderVerse was that there wasn’t a Spider-Man that was still bonded with the symbiote. But we did get Spider-Gwen, Spider Punk, SP//DR, and the comic debut of Japanese Spider-Man. That's because those are Venoms not Spider-Men, obviously.
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# ? May 2, 2022 15:34 |
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I’ve never been a huge Venom fan, but I absolutely love Spidey in the black suit, so that got a visceral reaction from me.
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# ? May 2, 2022 15:39 |
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Nilbop posted:I was the dude who came late to the party and only read Spider-Verse after the movie came out and it's kinda crazy that to me everything about Morlun and his dumb planet of spider-eating steampunk vampires is profoundly lamer and less interesting than like, Spider-Ham. I feel like new comic book writers try way to hard to make there villians total badasses and failed whereas the older villains just showed up wearing the first thing they grabbed at Goodwill on the way.
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# ? May 2, 2022 18:10 |
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I mean I don’t think that’s fair. Spider Verse big problem is a lot of things happen for story which undercuts the threat. The family is shown no as supremely powerful but the SM you care about are able to escape from them pretty easily. The only time the Morlun family gets Ws is when the SM seem to forget you can’t let them grab you.
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# ? May 2, 2022 18:15 |
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Not every Pulitzer prize winner is recognizably famous, or especially affluent, or even guaranteed professional stability, I never understand why people think Peter Parker having one is going to make that huge of a difference in his life. Or like, the Moira stuff in X Deaths-- I saw people saying like, "how would a Nobel prize-winning scientist be able to be on the run, undercover," and it's like, I don't know, I certainly couldn't pick Giorgio Parisi, David MacMillan, or David Julius out of a line-up of other middle-aged guys, and I would feel comfortable guessing that without looking it up most people would have a difficult time assigning each of these people to the prize they were awarded. I would barely recognize Louise Gluck passing by her in a grocery store and I know Louise Gluck.
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# ? May 2, 2022 18:15 |
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I think that's the basic continuity puncture of Spider-Man at this point. Batman has his inability to keep all of his spree-murderer bad guys under wraps for longer than an in-universe month or so; Spider-Man has the issue where Peter Parker is an award-winning photographer, a former billionaire, and an internationally renowned biologist/engineer, but keeps getting stuck living in flophouses in Queens without enough cash on hand to buy a hot dog.Rev. Bleech_ posted:so basically a rerun of "beep boop computer internet" parker from Ultimate There's a dark What If? story waiting to happen where Ultimate Peter is four years younger, so he's on 4chan a lot, and then he gets superpowers.
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# ? May 2, 2022 19:18 |
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Nilbop posted:Kind of a little surprised they never rebranded Pete as a streamer or influencer in the continuing mission to make him young, hip and relevant. Peter Parker being the one 28 year old in 2022 who absolutely doesn't understand the internet is kinda fitting though.
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# ? May 2, 2022 19:25 |
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Wanderer posted:I think that's the basic continuity puncture of Spider-Man at this point. Batman has his inability to keep all of his spree-murderer bad guys under wraps for longer than an in-universe month or so; Spider-Man has the issue where Peter Parker is an award-winning photographer, a former billionaire, and an internationally renowned biologist/engineer, but keeps getting stuck living in flophouses in Queens without enough cash on hand to buy a hot dog. I sorta assume he actually always has enough, he just likes free stuff/thinks it's funny to make Franklin Richards buy him a a hot dog right after Franklin lost his uncle.
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# ? May 2, 2022 19:28 |
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Wanderer posted:There's a dark What If? story waiting to happen where Ultimate Peter is four years younger, so he's on 4chan a lot, and then he gets superpowers. That's just how reed became the maker tho
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# ? May 2, 2022 19:30 |
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Skwirl posted:I sorta assume he actually always has enough, he just likes free stuff/thinks it's funny to make Franklin Richards buy him a a hot dog right after Franklin lost his uncle. For whatever reason, whenever I think of 2010s-era Spider-Man, one of my go-tos is that issue of SSM Zdarsky wrote and drew where Peter's driving a hot dog vendor crazy. The dude impulse-offered him free hot dogs for life and Peter ended up taking him up on it every day.
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# ? May 2, 2022 19:33 |
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Wanderer posted:For whatever reason, whenever I think of 2010s-era Spider-Man, one of my go-tos is that issue of SSM Zdarsky wrote and drew where Peter's driving a hot dog vendor crazy. The dude impulse-offered him free hot dogs for life and Peter ended up taking him up on it every day. Yeah, that's an all-timer spider image.
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# ? May 2, 2022 19:36 |
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Wanderer posted:For whatever reason, whenever I think of 2010s-era Spider-Man, one of my go-tos is that issue of SSM Zdarsky wrote and drew where Peter's driving a hot dog vendor crazy. The dude impulse-offered him free hot dogs for life and Peter ended up taking him up on it every day. This was literally what was in my head when I said Spidey stories work best when you focus on the little things a few pages ago. Zdarsky not being on ASM just confuses me.
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# ? May 2, 2022 20:08 |
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Skwirl posted:Peter Parker being the one 28 year old in 2022 who absolutely doesn't understand the internet is kinda fitting though. I mean, that's Silk's thing.
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# ? May 2, 2022 20:12 |
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This satisfies me enough on why the 'if Peter's so smart why isn't he rich front.'
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# ? May 2, 2022 20:30 |
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Nilbop posted:This was literally what was in my head when I said Spidey stories work best when you focus on the little things a few pages ago. i don't think you're allowed to write Newburn, Daredevil, Stillwater, Batman, Kaptara, Public Domain AND Spider-Man at the same time
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# ? May 2, 2022 20:32 |
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I read Rogue: Going Rogue. As you might be able to guess from the title, it's not very good. I know that not being able to touch people would suck, but I feel like Rogue really should be able to have a fulfilling live with meaningful connections, so that the not touching thing shouldn't be this constant inescapable misery. Has it come up at any point since Rogue: Going Rogue that Rogue has a complete lifetime's worth of memories from a dream version of herself growing up with her biological mother in the dream world? Also, why was Gambit blind?
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# ? May 2, 2022 21:31 |
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Cloks posted:i don't think you're allowed to write Newburn, Daredevil, Stillwater, Batman, Kaptara, Public Domain AND Spider-Man at the same time I think it's more like, how did DC give him Batman before Marvel gave him (Amazing) Spider-Man?
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# ? May 2, 2022 21:41 |
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Dawgstar posted:This satisfies me enough on why the 'if Peter's so smart why isn't he rich front.' I'm in this picture and I don't like it
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# ? May 2, 2022 21:43 |
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Lobok posted:I think it's more like, how did DC give him Batman before Marvel gave him (Amazing) Spider-Man? I mean maybe he just doesn’t want to deal with all the poo poo the main SM title has to deal with
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# ? May 2, 2022 22:21 |
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Wanderer posted:For whatever reason, whenever I think of 2010s-era Spider-Man, one of my go-tos is that issue of SSM Zdarsky wrote and drew where Peter's driving a hot dog vendor crazy. The dude impulse-offered him free hot dogs for life and Peter ended up taking him up on it every day. I'll never forgive him for making Spidey a ketchup-enjoyer though
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# ? May 2, 2022 23:30 |
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drrockso20 posted:I'm in this picture and I don't like it You'd call yourself a genius?
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# ? May 2, 2022 23:40 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:You'd call yourself a genius? More the bad with money part
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# ? May 3, 2022 01:49 |
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:I'll never forgive him for making Spidey a ketchup-enjoyer though It's not his fault, he's from New York.
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# ? May 3, 2022 04:53 |
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Lobok posted:I think it's more like, how did DC give him Batman before Marvel gave him (Amazing) Spider-Man? To be fair, writing Daredevil is a pretty good demonstration on how you'd fair writing Batman. CharlestheHammer posted:I mean maybe he just doesn’t want to deal with all the poo poo the main SM title has to deal with I think Chip did mention somewhere recently that he didn't have a pitch for SM ongoing, and he was a bit daunted at the prospect of helming the title. Which sucks, because between Zdarsky's comedy and drama chops, he seems particularly well suited for the character.
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:59 |
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after the last couple guys who helmed it, gotta respect turning down the big chair because you know you don't have something quality to offer the title
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:25 |
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site posted:after the last couple guys who helmed it, gotta respect turning down the big chair because you know you don't have something quality to offer the title Yeah. I mean, he could have pulled a Slott and just sort of ambled around the title for ages and burned out initial goodwill (although I don't think he would do that as fast as Danny boy), so I'm glad Chip recognized it.
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:39 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 02:16 |
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Slott had a plan, it was just focused more on Octavius rather than Peter.
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# ? May 3, 2022 17:12 |