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ThinkTank posted:Boudreau has been pretty vocal about his desire to stay and build something in Vancouver. I think it's too much of a PR disaster to let him go after "Bruce There It Is" was the first piece of positive organic marketing that came out of the team in a decade, but I get the desire for Allvin and Rutherford to make it their team. Honestly, I'm pretty okay with a strip back the fat year where they suck again because the prize for being bad in 2023 is the best since McDavid.
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grack posted:Right, Benning will be the Assistant GM gently caress my life. It's going to be a rough, rough many years for Sharks fans in the near future.
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Mike Works posted:Do you really think we’d be last in the league without Bruce but also without trading our star players (at least until the deadline)? By strip back the fat I mean trading guys like Miller and/or Horvat this summer.
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The sports writers in Winnipeg all seem to be convinced Scheifele is getting traded this off season and that Stastny was specifically talking about Scheifele in his post game presser. Scheifele has really taken a turn for the worse over the last couple of seasons as far as his engagement and dedication to the team goes. I'm okay with a PPG #1 C being traded as long as the return is good. Chevy has done fairly well in trading big names so far.
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May 4, 2022 23:27
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An aging, overpaid offense-first player who's a raging rear end in a top hat and not as good or as important as he delusionally thinks he is.... why, he sounds like an Edmonton Oiler already.
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I think the Canucks' roster has a lot of issues, but they're crazy if they want to compete and let Bruce go IMO. If they're planning to do a decent rebuild then yeah, but he is their best coaching hope for next year I think.
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ThinkTank posted:By strip back the fat I mean trading guys like Miller and/or Horvat this summer. They can ship off Demko somewhere that has a chance too, guy deserves better than wasting another 3 years (minimum) or whatever of his prime for a rebuild
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aejix posted:They can ship off Demko somewhere that has a chance too, guy deserves better than wasting another 3 years (minimum) or whatever of his prime for a rebuild literally no chance in any universe they trade demko
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May 5, 2022 00:22
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allvin and rutherford have been taking shots at boudreau in the media all year. they hate the dump and chase style he coaches and they think the team's slow starts are related to boudreau's disinterest in game preparation and general lack of attention to detail. saying they won't pick up his option is just them trying to get him to quit, i think also the canucks can't bottom out with demko on the roster so no matter what happens next year they'll still be at the very least mediocre
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May 5, 2022 00:24
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It's Boudreau that has the option though, isn't it? The tweet on the last page isn't super clear but I took away from it that JR doesn't really want him back and is hoping someone else hires him so he doesn't have to fire him and pay three coaches next year/deal with the PR headache. Also possible ownership is like "y'know what I think paying two coaches next year is plenty enough" so JR is trying to provoke Boudreau to skedaddle of his own accord so he can hire someone else.
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heehee posted:literally no chance in any universe they trade demko Yeah I know, we're just spitballing if they did decide to blow it up this summer
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millers basically gone unless he takes something like $6x8, im too attached to boeser/horvat to want em traded
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heehee posted:millers basically gone unless he takes something like $6x8, im too attached to boeser/horvat to want em traded I'm really not that invested in anyone on the team. They've been bad so long I haven't found myself really rooting any one player in particular. I was more connected to players like Manny Malhotra and Raffi Torres back in 2011 than I am to Brock Boeser today.
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ThinkTank posted:I'm really not that invested in anyone on the team. They've been bad so long I haven't found myself really rooting any one player in particular. I was more connected to players like Manny Malhotra and Raffi Torres back in 2011 than I am to Brock Boeser today. loved that last Leafs game, eh?
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Didnt Malhotra play like half his career with one eye?
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ThinkTank posted:By strip back the fat I mean trading guys like Miller and/or Horvat this summer.
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Furnaceface posted:Didnt Malhotra play like half his career with one eye? just everything from the 2011 Stanley cup on, nbd. he also went from being a solid third liner who was an elite faceoff guy to being one of the absolute worst players in the league who was still kicking people's asses on faceoffs just out of instinct and muscle memory i guess, idk. 2015:  2013:  2008: 
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https://twitter.com/mdefranks/status/1521971401007280137?s=21&t=H5i6Otj4pD1JHfq4Iyi0hg You can take the predator out of the nhl...
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Mike Works posted:Ah, so strip all of the meat except Hughes and maybe Demko? Pettersson is cool too, but the list of guys this team shouldn't be at least moderately interested in moving should be pretty short. You can't get sentimental and excited with a team that's been this bad for this long based on one kinda entertaining half season. That was the whole issue with the Benning era.
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Eric the Mauve posted:It's Boudreau that has the option though, isn't it? The tweet on the last page isn't super clear but I took away from it that JR doesn't really want him back and is hoping someone else hires him so he doesn't have to fire him and pay three coaches next year/deal with the PR headache. Also possible ownership is like "y'know what I think paying two coaches next year is plenty enough" so JR is trying to provoke Boudreau to skedaddle of his own accord so he can hire someone else. it's a mutual option or something. both have to exercise. jr basically said they'll exercise their half of the option and bring boudreau back but also said they won't talk extension until some unspecified point in the future and oh also by the way the team needs to play with more structure and only won because they got elite goaltending and they're badly prepared for game days. there's basically no chance boudreau is back next year
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clean ayers act posted:https://twitter.com/mdefranks/status/1521971401007280137?s=21&t=H5i6Otj4pD1JHfq4Iyi0hg I think the Stars take some share of the blame here for rehabilitating his image after he washed out of Montreal, and quite frankly probably covering up his original sexual assaults on his nanny when he was living in Dallas. there's some disturbing poo poo in the news tonight
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heehee posted:podkolzin is sick as balls Neither he nor Hoglander is likely to be anyone of consequence in the NHL so if the team can move them for an upgrade, they do it. Hoglander especially is a guy they will likely have to trade to dump the Myers contract.
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Starsfan posted:I think the Stars take some share of the blame here for rehabilitating his image after he washed out of Montreal, and quite frankly probably covering up his original sexual assaults on his nanny when he was living in Dallas. Yeah he got away way too cleanly from Dallas
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Koth posted:The sports writers in Winnipeg all seem to be convinced Scheifele is getting traded this off season and that Stastny was specifically talking about Scheifele in his post game presser. yeah but they're going to hire Randy Carlyle so what does it matter?
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Duck Rodgers posted:Arniels wife still lives in Winnipeg and has for his whole career, his kids are grown and left for university now but he still has a lot of reasons to want to work for Winnipeg. Maybe, hopefully he's learned something about coaching since his stint with CBJ. In fairness to him, he should have been taken out back and shot as coach well before the literal halfway point of the 2011-12 season. He wasn't great, but Howson was too patient and hoped things would get better, much as he did with Steve Mason until JD came in and jettisoned them both.
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The Canucks have a core that you can't tank with - #1 C+D+G with two of them before their prime. They've been a few good moves away from turning it around for a while, but most of their moves other than hiring Boudreau have been terrible. The hockey fan in me wants to see them make those good moves, but the Rangers fan in me wants them to trade Miller for some B-prospects, sign Ryan Strome for 7x7, and bring back AV.
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they're gonna trade miller for lafreniere and the 2023 unprotected first and the rags will be dead last and win the lottery and the canucks will finally be free of all curses
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Part of me wants to speculate about whether Boudreau is waiting to see if the Leafs crash out in the first round this year before exercising his option for next year with Van. He's been very vocal about wanting to coach the Leafs before he retires, they're his favourite childhood team, maybe he thinks he'll have a shot at his dream gig if disaster strikes Toronto in the first round again and coaching/mgmt gets axed.
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FBS posted:yeah but they're going to hire Randy Carlyle so what does it matter? I really hope there isn't any truth to that rumor.
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It would be very funny if Canucks management was trying their best to drive out Boudreau and tank next season and Bruce stubbornly wills the team to 40 wins again.
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Zodijackylite posted:The Canucks have a core that you can't tank with - #1 C+D+G with two of them before their prime. They've been a few good moves away from turning it around for a while I agree that they're almost there, but they need a lot more young talent as their first retool Core in Horvat and Boeser are reaching free agency. I like Hughes/Pettersson/Demko but my feeling is that those three alone are not anywhere enough as a core to push this team with its hilarious bad luck anywhere near the top of the West, let alone to a Stanley Cup. The top two picks in next year's draft are slam dunks with Bedard being a Vancouver born, unabashed Canucks fan who will likely be a top 3 player in the league by the time he's twenty. If ever there was a year to cash in on Miller, Horvat and Boeser and cross your fingers for some luck, it's this one. Ownership likely won't let management do that, but Rutherford/Allvin seem as unconvinced as I am that the Feb-Apr stretch we just saw was anything other than an aberration.
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To continue the Ruff discussion, I don't mind giving him another year with better assistant coaches for a couple of reasons. The first is that the Devils' season was torpedoed by horrific goaltending and a lot of injuries to their core players. Their metrics were pretty solid this year and quite good in the second half when their players got healthy. But when Jon Gillies, Nico Daws, and Andrew Hammond are your goaltenders, you lose before you even have a chance. The second is that had the powerplay executed better, the Devils would have been out in front in more games. Recchi as a player I loved but he's a terrible powerplay coach. I don't want Ruff to stick around beyond next year but I am willing to give him a chance since the team imo showed marked improvement this season and it does matter that Hughes and Bratt have come alive under him.
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I don't understand running a system in 2022-23 that you know for sure is a one year thing. Whats the point?
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mcmagic posted:I don't understand running a system in 2022-23 that you know for sure is a one year thing. Whats the point? Maybe sell some playoff tickets for the first time in 8 years?
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Spelling Mitsake posted:Maybe sell some playoff tickets for the first time in 8 years? Why do you think that they are likely to make the playoffs with the same system that they have been like 30 games under 500 with the last 2 years?
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Spelling Mitsake posted:Maybe sell some playoff tickets for the first time in 8 years? Connor Bedard will sell many tickets for years to come
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ThinkTank posted:Connor Bedard will sell many tickets for years to come It's going to be both sad and hilarious when Seattle gets the #1 pick next year. At least he'll be close to home?
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Jhet posted:It's going to be both sad and hilarious when Seattle gets the #1 pick next year. At least he'll be close to home? It will destroy me if he goes anywhere other than Vancouver. I am already mentally preparing myself for it. Michkov is a great consolation prize although sadly he's signed through 2025 in the KHL.
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