Homeless Friend posted:

Cranappleberry posted:

btw, I hold nothing against individual posters in this thread nor against the premise- that the biosphere is deteriorating rapidly, that this deterioration is accelerating and it means that most living organisms are hosed unless there is an inflection point.

Azathoth posted:

here's my official position: i appreciate that folks like the posts he makes that aren't racist or ecofash, but rime got a heavier probe and ban than most anyone would because when you've got multiple probes and bans for being a racist ecofash and i don't like having racist ecofash running around.

Cup Runneth Over posted:

you're a stupid shithead and Rime did nothing wrong

if you're unfamiliar with Rime's rapsheet why the gently caress are you moderating this thread lol. he's been posting in the climate change threads for years and we all know about his history and he's said repeatedly he's moved on from it and no longer holds those positions (in the same loving post you banned him for even). if he's ecofash every one of us is ecofash and you should ban us all, all of us agree with him

Cup Runneth Over posted:

if you're unfamiliar with Rime's rapsheet why the gently caress are you moderating this thread lol. he's been posting in the climate change threads for years and we all know about his history and he's said repeatedly he's moved on from it and no longer holds those positions (in the same loving post you banned him for even). if he's ecofash every one of us is ecofash and you should ban us all, all of us agree with him

El Laucha posted:

nice utopia you got going there (1960s vs now)

Rectal Death Adept posted:

To be fair, Rime's rapsheet is over ten years old so most mods start losing interest

Rectal Death Adept posted:

To be fair, Rime's rapsheet is over ten years old so most mods start losing interest

Samuel Glompers posted:

Where is this?

Cup Runneth Over posted:

joker laughing with our pals is all we have left to look forward to in the world and the mods are trying to take that from us with bullshit specious ban+30s

Rime gets punished for every lovely thing he says, which is fine and good. He didn't say anything lovely there, objectively, and still got punished for having a "bad rap sheet" or whatever. That's horsecrap. If you think he's a bad poster then queue a perma and say it's not for that post but for a pattern of behavior like with everybody else in that situation.

Homeless Friend posted:

AceClown posted:

Biosphere Collapse: What I find unexpected is most people being shocked

AceClown posted:

Biosphere Collapse: What I find unexpected is most people being shocked

AceClown posted:

Biosphere Collapse: What I find unexpected is most people being shocked

Cup Runneth Over posted:

every one of us is ecofash and you should ban us all

some plague rats posted:

Well you heard the man. Azathoth get to work

Samuel Glompers posted:

Where is this?

FFT posted:

Viña del Mar, Chile

nikosoft posted:

lol I didn't realize he got banned for the nuclear bomb comment, where even a cursory glance is enough to pick up that he was not actually advocating to nuke America.

Mods don't understand context! Sad!

Cold on a Cob posted:

i don't even give a gently caress about rime but lol and lmfao

IAMKOREA posted:

This thread is great because it's a like one of the only sane places where you can talk about this stuff without toxic positivity. Every single news article about how things are worst than we thought, things are getting bad faster than we thought, etc always has to end on a positive note that we can still turn things around if we just do this or that. Try to talk about this to your boomer parents and they tell you that people have been saying the world is ending for as long as they can remember. And why can't we be mad or upset about it? We should be! We have those emotions for a reason, this situation loving sucks!

Cold on a Cob posted:

people absolutely can't handle a no-win scenario and we're in a no-win scenario

Cold on a Cob posted:

people absolutely can't handle a no-win scenario and we're in a no-win scenario

"‘We are living in hell’: Pakistan and India suffer extreme spring heatwaves posted:

We are living in hell’: Pakistan and India suffer extreme spring heatwaves

April temperatures at unprecedented levels have led to critical water and electricity shortages

Hannah Ellis-Petersen in Delhi and Shah Meer Baloch in Islamabad
Mon 2 May 2022 16.07 BST
Last modified on Tue 3 May 2022 04.54 BST


A man walks across a dried bed of the Yamuna River in New Delhi, India. Photograph: Manish Swarup/AP

For the past few weeks, Nazeer Ahmed has been living in one of the hottest places on Earth. As a brutal heatwave has swept across India and Pakistan, his home in Turbat, in Pakistan’s Balochistan region, has been suffering through weeks of temperatures that have repeatedly hit almost 50C (122F), unprecedented for this time of year. Locals have been driven into their homes, unable to work except during the cooler night hours, and are facing critical shortages of water and power.

Ahmed fears that things are only about to get worse. It was here, in 2021, that the world’s highest temperature for May was recorded, a staggering 54C. This year, he said, feels even hotter. “Last week was insanely hot in Turbat. It did not feel like April,” he said.

As the heatwave has exacerbated massive energy shortages across India and Pakistan, Turbat, a city of about 200,000 residents, now barely receives any electricity, with up to nine hours of load shedding every day, meaning that air conditioners and refrigerators cannot function. “We are living in hell,” said Ahmed.



It has been a similar story across the subcontinent, where the realities of climate change are being felt by more than 1.5 billion people as the scorching summer temperatures have arrived two months early and the relief of the monsoons are months away. North-west and central India experienced the hottest April in 122 years, while Jacobabad, a city in Pakistan’s Sindh province, hit 49C on Saturday, one of the highest April temperatures ever recorded in the world.
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The heatwave has already had a devastating impact on crops, including wheat and various fruits and vegetables. In India, the yield from wheat crops has dropped by up to 50% in some of the areas worst hit by the extreme temperatures, worsening fears of global shortages following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which has already had a devastating impact on supplies.

In Balochistan’s Mastung district, known for its apple and peach orchards, the harvests have been decimated. Haji Ghulam Sarwar Shahwani, a farmer, watched in anguish as his apple trees blossomed more than a month early, and then despair as the blossom sizzled and then died in the unseasonal dry heat, almost killing off his entire crop. Farmers in the area also spoke of a “drastic” impact on their wheat crops, while the area has also recently been subjected to 18-hour power cuts.

“This is the first time the weather has wreaked such havoc on our crops in this area,” Shahwani said. “We don’t know what to do and there is no government help. The cultivation has decreased; now very few fruits grow. Farmers have lost billions because of this weather. We are suffering and we can’t afford it.”


A man throws water on his face to cool off in Islamabad, Pakistan, last month. Photograph: Anadolu Agency/Getty Images

Sherry Rehman, Pakistan’s minister for climate, told the Guardian that the country was facing an “existential crisis” as climate emergencies were being felt from the north to south of the country.

Rehman warned that the heatwave was causing the glaciers in the north of the country to melt at an unprecedented rate, and that thousands were at risk of being caught in flood bursts. She also said that the sizzling temperatures were not only impacting crops but water supply as well. “The water reservoirs dry up. Our big dams are at dead level right now, and sources of water are scarce,” she said.

Rehman said the heatwave should be a wake-up call to the international community. “Climate and weather events are here to stay and will in fact only accelerate in their scale and intensity if global leaders don’t act now,” she said.

Experts said the scorching heat being felt across the subcontinent was likely a taste of things to come as global heating continues to accelerate. Abhiyant Tiwari, an assistant professor and programme manager at the Gujarat Institute of Disaster Management, said “the extreme, frequent, and long-lasting spells of heatwaves are no more a future risk. It is already here and is unavoidable.”

The World Meteorological Organisation said in a statement that the temperatures in India and Pakistan were “consistent with what we expect in a changing climate. Heatwaves are more frequent and more intense and starting earlier than in the past.”

A heatwave is declared when the maximum temperature is over 40C and at least 4.5C above normal.

quote:

https://twitter.com/US_Stormwatch/status/1520601672732463104

Over the weekend in India, Bikaner was the hottest place in the country at 47.1C, according to the India Meteorological Department. However, in some parts of north-west India, images captured by satellites showed that surface land temperatures had exceeded 60C – unprecedented for this time of year when usual surface temperatures are between 45 and 55C.

“The hottest temperatures recorded are south-east and south-west of Ahmedabad, with maximum land-surface temperatures of around 65C,” the European Space Agency said on its website.

The high temperatures have put massive pressure on power demand in both India and Pakistan, where people have had to endure hours of power cuts amid the crippling heat. On Friday, the peak power demand in India touched an all-time high of 207,111MW, according to the government.

India is facing its worst electricity shortage in six decades. Power cuts lasting upwards of eight hours have been imposed in states including Jharkhand, Haryana, Bihar, Punjab and Maharashtra as domestic coal supplies have fallen to critical levels and the price of imported coal has soared. In a bid to speed up the transport of coal across the country, Indian Railways cancelled more than 600 passenger and postal train journeys to make way for transportation of coal to power plants.

Mola Yam posted:

unban rime and ban the disingenuous dipshit who reported him

BrotherJayne posted:

T-Paine posted:

Because talking about reality makes you a goony goon cheeto shutin virgin loser according to posters with the most fragile brains

quote:

Experts said the scorching heat being felt across the subcontinent was likely a taste of things to come as global heating continues to accelerate. Abhiyant Tiwari, an assistant professorand programme manager at the Gujarat Institute of Disaster Management, said “the extreme, frequent, and long-lasting spells of heatwaves are no more a future risk. It is already here and is unavoidable.”

The World Meteorological Organisation said in a statement that the temperatures in India and Pakistan were “consistent with what we expect in a changing climate. Heatwaves are more frequent and more intense and starting earlier than in the past.”

AceClown posted:

iirc there's only like the first couple of inches of soil that's actually worth anything nutritionally when it comes it farmland.

That will all blow away pretty quick.

with no water nothing will naturally take hold to replenish the deeper soil

so without any rains or intervention it'll probably become a dead dustbowl

Fly Molo posted:

there’s always weed and elden ring

AceClown posted:

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220506-india-pakistan-must-brace-for-even-worse-heatwaves

quote:

A team led by Vikki Thompson of Bristol University ranked the world's most severe heatwaves since 1960. Their benchmark, however, was not maximum temperatures, but how hot it got compared to what would be expected for the region.

Surprisingly, South Asia was nowhere near the top of the list.

"When defined in terms of deviation from the local norm, heatwaves in India and Pakistan to date have not been all that extreme," Thompson explained in a commentary.

By that measure, the worst scorcher on record over the last six decades was in Southeast Asia in 1998.