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Danann posted:imagine if the stealth concept turns out to be a bust and the f-35 is reduced to flying low just like its older cousins lol Sensors and data processing are improving fields of technology. Even if there were improvements in the field of “invisibility”, it would be impossible to retrofit the planes to implement them.
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Goast posted:it's very funny that there are still jobs that do the mask + six feet away performance It's not performance. those people are actually important to ameircan military power, the government can't afford to get them sick. unlike you
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Ardennes posted:Hell the way things are going, the Rafale and Gripen will be squeezed out entirely. This is the entire reason for the F-35 project. They never want a repeat of the early Cold War before they killed all of their Allies’ domestic industries: Canadair Sabre, CAC Sabre, 220 Sabres built by Fiat, 300 Sabres built by Mitsubishi. Those should have all been American orders dammnit!
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Rutibex posted:It's not performance. those people are actually important to ameircan military power, the government can't afford to get them sick. Those are some lame-rear end masks though
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May 11, 2022 23:07
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Frosted Flake posted:This is the entire reason for the F-35 project. democracy is when complete vassalage
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May 11, 2022 23:08
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/ericuman/status/1523852759279276032 Anytime I see F35 stuff I just hear The War Nerd laughing.
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Danann posted:imagine if the stealth concept turns out to be a bust and the f-35 is reduced to flying low just like its older cousins lol This kind of already happened. The radars are too good for large aircraft to be invisible any more in most situations. The F22 is still pretty stealthy but even there it's more for lower power aircraft radars at the correct angles, it's still getting spotted by ground stations. The F35 is less stealthy than that. But almost none of these radars were designed to detect smaller, stealthy drones. That's the real arms race now, whoever has the most best drones will win the air war.
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May 12, 2022 00:47
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DJI Mavics are the new Toyota Hiluxes of the 21st Century.
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Pryor on Fire posted:This kind of already happened. The radars are too good for large aircraft to be invisible any more in most situations. The F22 is still pretty stealthy but even there it's more for lower power aircraft radars at the correct angles, it's still getting spotted by ground stations. The F35 is less stealthy than that. They also dont have very good counters for the drone at the moment. The US would be really sad about their fighter force being obsolete, if they cared about operational performance at all. It being a huge waste of money was entirely the point, like a pizza place that only sells one kind of pizza for $80 dollars named "Frontello's Legitimate Pizza"
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May 12, 2022 01:11
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Danann posted:DJI Mavics are the new Toyota Hiluxes of the 21st Century. That's only because slavs aren't riding around in technicals and instead sitting back and lobbing explosives at each other. Not a single real dzhigit among them.
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May 12, 2022 01:24
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What comparable warplanes is the US even still producing besides the F-35
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Rutibex posted:It's not performance. those people are actually important to ameircan military power, the government can't afford to get them sick. tell that to the the contractors that have filtered through our chipotle in crowds throughout the whole pandemic the performance is for their managers, the second they go outside that world they take the mask off and shove an overpriced burrito down their throat while yelling at the chipotle manager because the guy working grill fiddled with his mask a bit
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Lostconfused posted:That's only because slavs aren't riding around in technicals and instead sitting back and lobbing explosives at each other. Not a single real dzhigit among them. those old, possibly expired artillery rounds aren't going to shoot themselves!
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May 12, 2022 01:36
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anyone that actually thinks the usa locked down at all is kidding themselves every single store and fast food place was open to fill your void, the difference is you didn't have to drive there to get it because that is normal now for a certain part of the population everyone else despises you and your theater that we are stuck in
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gradenko_2000 posted:What comparable warplanes is the US even still producing besides the F-35 There is none, it is a monopoly. Endless overhauls and maintenance for decades, lots of money to be made. Also the navy put a new speed limit of 15 knots (slower than WW1 speeds) on the LCS ships because if you go faster the hull cracks: https://twitter.com/thewarzonewire/status/1524499510596046848 it's almost as if this is all the same problem
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They do have quad bikes thoughУголок Ситха posted:
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Pryor on Fire posted:also the navy put a new speed limit of 15 knots (slower than WW1 speeds) on the LCS ships because if you go faster the hull cracks the sheer combat prowess of getting outrunned by a fully loaded 100K ton container vessel at 1/10 the cost
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May 12, 2022 01:43
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It’s darkly funny that letting the MiC off the leash in the 80’s destroyed defence capabilities in only a few decades. State Arsenals prioritize the defence of the state above profit motive, and the more control over these industries was relinquished, the more profit maximization ate away at that. Is Boeing even primarily an aircraft company, in real terms?
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Yeah once you get down to 15 knots there some sailboats that can intercept you.
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Lostconfused posted:They do have quad bikes though quads bikes are lethal to the user at the best of times.
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Do US defence companies even risk coming under state control by loving around this much or are they absolutely secure in the support of both parties?
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Pryor on Fire posted:Yeah once you get down to 15 knots there some sailboats that can intercept you. Yeah pretty much any trimaran. God drat you other, non-rusting, LCS for sullying the reputation of trimarans, the coolest looking boats.
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Frosted Flake posted:Do US defence companies even risk coming under state control by loving around this much or are they absolutely secure in the support of both parties? poo poo didn't get nationalized after 2008 bailouts. Tesla is funded by US government and gets government contracts and it's run by some dumbass poster. They'll be fine. https://breakingdefense.com/2022/04/pentagon-wants-500m-to-get-data-to-manage-f-35-parts/ quote:The debate on F-35 technical data rights have been a sticking point in negotiations between the Pentagon and Lockheed in recent years, as the department has shifted its focus to lowering the sustainment cost of the aircraft. When the F-35 program was conceptualized more than two decades ago, it was structured under a “Total System Performance Responsibility” approach that gave Lockheed an unprecedented amount of power to manage the sustainment of the aircraft.
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I kinda think republicans will gently caress the MIC bigly during trumps next term.
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Lol 15 knots? The US Navy is gonna get Tsushima'd
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Yeah, it’s come up before but the Independence class was suppose to get the “good one” that was suppose to stay since the Freedom class was simultaneously being built and then decommissioned.
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Военный Осведомитель posted:
the new overarmed russian humvee is seeing serial production unmanned turret looks a bit blocky on it ngl
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, it’s come up before but the Independence class was suppose to get the “good one” that was suppose to stay since the Freedom class was simultaneously being built and then decommissioned. Wait this isn't the LCS that also rots in seawater?
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KomradeX posted:Wait this isn't the LCS that also rots in seawater? this is the plan b to that
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this one rots in seawater too. you might be confusing the new independence-class, which rots, and the new freedom-class, which rots, with the new zumwalt-class which also rots maybe you were thinking of the new ford-class who only has problems with its elevators, electronics, piping, and mechanical systems rotting. the hull seems to be doing ok
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Danann posted:DJI Mavics are the new Toyota Hiluxes of the 21st Century. i dont understand why my google search history has aroused this kind of suspicion, special agent. what if i need to deliver a succulent pork shoulder or goulash to a friend climbing a mountain face? i think you can agree that "drones that can carry pressure cookers" seems totally reasonable with that in mind
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Real hurthling! posted:this is the plan b to that Breakfast All Day posted:this one rots in seawater too. you might be confusing the new independence-class, which rots, and the new freedom-class, which rots, with the new zumwalt-class Oh that's too funny words
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Breakfast All Day posted:this one rots in seawater too. you might be confusing the new independence-class, which rots, and the new freedom-class, which rots, with the new zumwalt-class it’s a huge mistake to mix metals at sea for hull performance.
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I uh learnt that there from a navy text. lmao
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Frosted Flake posted:It’s darkly funny that letting the MiC off the leash in the 80’s destroyed defence capabilities in only a few decades. The army wanted to design the replacement to the M2 Bradley IFV, and companies sued the government because it wasn’t fair that they were cut out of the process. [fake edit: I was looking for an article to corroborate this, but couldn’t find one easily, so I guess consider this a rumor, here’s something funny though] https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/03/05/new-army-approach-bradley-replacement-lower-bar-companies-compete.html "We asked them to make an investment, and now we are switching," Norcross said. "How do we keep saying to our industrial base, 'OK, that was a screw-up. Your investments are not lost'? It's a risk; we understand. They knew it going in, but it doesn't help our case that this is the new way that we are going to do things Those poor defense contractors that constantly deliver garbage results, it’s so unfair to them 
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Frosted Flake posted:Do US defence companies even risk coming under state control by loving around this much or are they absolutely secure in the support of both parties? https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43069/metallurgist-admits-to-falsifying-navy-submarine-steel-strength-test-results-for-36-years Lol they can’t even guarantee they’re getting what they paid for even when it’s high grade steel in an environment where it absolutely has to work as advertised. The US sub force is probably the most elite in the world, and they were short changing them the whole time. No punishment and they can’t even change vendors because they’re the one of the few who make it. Most other countries would treat this like sabotage and treason but 
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Admittedly, the Constellation class doesn’t look as bad, but it is also a 2000s era design and by the time they are commissioned in significant numbers (in the late 2020s/2030s) they will be far from a cutting edge design.
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Constellation? That's a Star Trek rear end name right there.
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Lostconfused posted:Constellation? That's a Star Trek rear end name right there. backwards
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