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the man is obsessed https://twitter.com/LabourAccel/status/1525014039461609472?s=20&t=cz27IMlWkZEnHmDBh9Vg_w
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chocolate spread chocolate spread chocolate spread
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Jose posted:the man is obsessed But you already need to provide biometric data to get a work visa / leave to remain. This is surely just creating further bureaucracy?
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May 13, 2022 08:39
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well, that's his fetish.
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May 13, 2022 08:39
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Like you can't claim benefits already without being documented with home office approval. Employers who use undocumented workers already know that they're breaking the law, and still do it anyway. This wouldn't change anything.
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May 13, 2022 08:47
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Lol at the idea of Starmer coming out with a coherent line on anything.
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May 13, 2022 08:52
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Except cold, dreary authoritarianism, I guess.
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May 13, 2022 08:52
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What 'woke' politics does he think the party is pursuing right now anyway lmao
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May 13, 2022 08:56
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Even if Starmer Labour do come out with a coherent set of policies, he's already told us he'll lie to get elected. If the next Labour manifesto contains anything good at all, why should we believe it will be implemented?
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May 13, 2022 08:58
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Tiger Millionaire posted:What 'woke' politics does he think the party is pursuing right now anyway lmao Not taking a hard stance against trans rights? 
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May 13, 2022 08:59
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Starmers dream job would be in charge of the society in Brazil
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May 13, 2022 08:59
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Tiger Millionaire posted:What 'woke' politics does he think the party is pursuing right now anyway lmao yes, can anyone tell me a single "woke" thing that Starmer has said or done? Genuine question.
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May 13, 2022 09:01
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stood in the general vicinity of the detestable corbyn. unforgivable!
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keep punching joe posted:Not taking a hard stance against trans rights? omfg lol
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May 13, 2022 09:04
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nawilo_420 posted:yes, can anyone tell me a single "woke" thing that Starmer has said or done? Genuine question. Starmer has e.g. said that he believes trans women exist. Extremely woke.
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May 13, 2022 09:05
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here's an idea: instead of pandering to the votes of the centre right, maybe pander to the votes on the left that already voted for your party under a different, popular leader? just a thought.
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May 13, 2022 09:07
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nawilo_420 posted:omfg lol I hate when they use aspirational because they mean it in a very specific zero sum way. It means joining the 'gently caress-you got mine' club. It means loving over everyone around you in a desperate rush to escape the coming squeeze.
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May 13, 2022 09:11
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nawilo_420 posted:yes, can anyone tell me a single "woke" thing that Starmer has said or done? Genuine question. *Angry gammon voice* "What, you mean Sir Keir kneeler?!
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gonadic io posted:Starmer has e.g. said that he believes trans women exist. Extremely woke. Wes Streeting has said he doesn't (see the article), so he'll probably be leader for the next GE
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amazingly, the best case scenario for the next election is Ed loving Balls as Labour leader, and even then he's going to absolutely fail
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Do Labour still have that pay  to vote in leadership elections?
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Balls don't fail me now!
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:i dont know what youre talking about i was referring to this Another blackface scandal rocks the Commonwealth
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keep punching joe posted:Not taking a hard stance against trans rights? What's the "centre ground" on transgender rights again? Acknowledge their existence but not their right to exist?
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:What's the "centre ground" on transgender rights again? Acknowledge their existence but not their right to exist? That's where Labour are currently so move a bit more to the right.
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:What's the "centre ground" on transgender rights again? Acknowledge their existence but not their right to exist?
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:What's the "centre ground" on transgender rights again? Acknowledge their existence but not their right to exist? Pick a piece of bureaucratic cruelty and smack transpeople with it to earn happy op-eds from the Guardian.
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:What's the "centre ground" on transgender rights again? Acknowledge their existence but not their right to exist? that one desmond tutu quote about neutrality meaning you side with the oppressor but are too much of a coward to own that you're doing that, but framed as a motivational poster
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:that one desmond tutu quote about neutrality meaning you side with the oppressor but are too much of a coward to own that you're doing that, but framed as a motivational poster 
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keep punching joe posted:Not taking a hard stance against trans rights? https://twitter.com/dril/status/841892608788041732
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Jose posted:the man is obsessed its like some mark of the beast type poo poo, if i was a religious nut job this would confirm my theory that blair was the antichrist
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https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1525047151033782272?t=_9G2pGZObhOXT_sZi-sVFA&s=19 You love to see it
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Thank ye kindly 
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nawilo_420 posted:here's an idea: instead of pandering to the votes of the centre right, maybe pander to the votes on the left that already voted for your party under a different, popular leader? just a thought. They Have Nowhere Else To Go
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What's "funny" is that New Labour least realised they had to give some indication that they would do left wing stuff to string unions and leftists along as part of their coalition, even if they never had any intention of doing that and many said so at the time. Obviously this is a pretty big part of why New Labours support collapsed very quickly after they took power Starmer & co seem to actively not want leftists to vote for them and would rather lose with 20% of the vote from Tory swing voters than win with 35% of the vote that includes anyone to the left of Margaret Hodge Basically the only real hope for Starmer is a Lib Dem resurgance that nicks loads of seats from Tories which, lol
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MikeCrotch posted:They Another actual question: why is there no new leftist, or even center-left, party in the UK?
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There are a few nascent parties of that ilk but rather small at the moment. There isn't one that's captured the hearts and minds in sufficient quantity yet to be considered 'the' party. I'm quite liking Breakthrough Party (following on FB) but nowhere near signing up.
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nawilo_420 posted:Another actual question: why is there no new leftist, or even center-left, party in the UK? because as soon as a figurehead appears for any such movement, either the character assassination death star is powered up and fired indiscriminately until they are reduced to dust and echoes, or they are permitted to exist and must therefore be part of the apparatus of the state
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:There are a few nascent parties of that ilk but rather small at the moment. There isn't one that's captured the hearts and minds in sufficient quantity yet to be considered 'the' party. This, plus the brain disease of left-labourism that leads otherwise good people to insist being marginalised inside a party led by people who would happily have you lined up against a wall and shot if they could get away with it is better than striking out into the wilderness and 'throwing away your vote' on a new party
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MikeCrotch posted:What's "funny" is that New Labour least realised they had to give some indication that they would do left wing stuff to string unions and leftists along as part of their coalition, even if they never had any intention of doing that and many said so at the time. Obviously this is a pretty big part of why New Labours support collapsed very quickly after they took power yes and also the greens taking more votes from the tories than labour
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