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JamesKPolk posted:No judgement, but the idea that modular synthesizers, eurorack, etc are not primarily tools for writing music for other people to consume is baffling to me. I'm not saying that its not a thing, or even the main driver of eurorack sales in 2022 (in the several versions of this post I've typed and deleted, I've gotten *really* curious about this, actually), but it's an attitude I only ever encounter on the internet, and a relatively new one at that. We could automate the whole drat thing and cut out the middleman, you know. The "middleman" being the recording artist, the one person standing between all the music industries and their profits. In this production chain the composer/performer is the weakest link by far, and the person most easily replaced with a machine.
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Rolo posted:It’s gonna happen but god the idea of having a portable suitcase dwelling 2000 dollar toy scares me. It's only like that when it's new. I'm regularly lugging thousands of dollars worth of camera equipment through rain and long hikes.. it was terrifying the first few times and now it's just like "eh, whatever" as I set it down on a rock because I ran out of hands to changes lenses.
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xzzy posted:It's only like that when it's new. I'm regularly lugging thousands of dollars worth of camera equipment through rain and long hikes.. it was terrifying the first few times and now it's just like "eh, whatever" as I set it down on a rock because I ran out of hands to changes lenses. Good enough for me, I got my order in  I’m going to sell the music stuff I don’t play with anymore (and my OP-1) over the next few weeks. Should get close enough to being even. After the downsize I’ll be down to the Moog Minitaur, OP-2, PO-20 and PO-12. I don’t see myself selling the Minitaur ever it’s soooo funnn. Rolo fucked around with this message at 23:22 on May 12, 2022 |
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Rolo posted:I don’t see myself selling the Minitaur ever it’s soooo funnn. Are you saying it's fun because of the sound, or because it's immediate, one knob per function and no menu?
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ngl I’m cackling at everybody dropping two large on what is essentially OP-1.5 I remember lusting after OP-1 back in 2014 when it was like $899 ($1199? I can’t even remember) but ultimately finding that price kinda high, especially vs something like an iPad which was really starting to show serious hardware capability despite Apple’s best efforts at hobbling the software along with further going down in price. then seeing OP-1’s price further rise and understanding the limitations that TE has as a tiny company but seriously lmao at OP-1 field costing $2k and double lmao at lining up to pay for it
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my take on teenage engineering is that i don’t begrudge anyone for buying ikea stuff, but i don’t trust any company who collaborates with them. this isn’t the scanpol thread tho so i’m not gonna get into their heinous track record as a corporate landlord and forceful evictions
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I'm just glad people are panic-dumping their OP-1s and driving prices down. Just scored one in fantastic condition with hard and soft cases for $700, when a week ago I was pondering picking up a busted one for $600 and repairing it. Thanks, TE!
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i guess everyone has different priorities, i can’t believe people will spend 2 grand on a monosynth like the matrixbrute but obviously a lot of people do.
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inferis posted:i guess everyone has different priorities, i can’t believe people will spend 2 grand on a monosynth like the matrixbrute but obviously a lot of people do. cool. I can’t either. IDK why you decided that there’s a big dichotomy between one limited, very pricey (arguably overpriced) piece of hardware whose functionality is largely supplanted by much more affordable software/controller arrangements and another limited, very pricey (arguably overpriced) piece of hardware whose functionality is largely supplanted by much more affordable software/controller arrangements like OP-1 exists here on one end and Matrixbrute on the other. Also at least with Matrixbrute you can make the argument that you’re paying $2k for a physically large hard-wearing instrument with premium enough touch points like a decent keybed, wood construction elements, etc meant to work for many years, kind of like an electric or acoustic piano/organ/etc. Even behringer with all of their cost-cutting and shady corporate practices and arguable savings in R+D can only make their big synthesizers so cheap, they still run in the $700-$1400 range.
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My logic is I’m gonna like making music with it. Fart fart fart here’s my card number.
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Rolo posted:My logic is I’m gonna like making music with it. Fart fart fart here’s my card number.
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looks like perkons orders are opening up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG2Aycx_E9c
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I would jump on a OP-1 Feels immediately but i get the feeling i'm going to get hosed on australian import duty and probably just want to wait until they're in store so i can see how much i'm actually going to get charged and have a local warranty and poo poo because man TE support won't do poo pooOk Comboomer posted:Also at least with Matrixbrute you can make the argument that you’re paying $2k for a physically large hard-wearing instrument with premium enough touch points like a decent keybed, wood construction elements, etc meant to work for many years, kind of like an electric or acoustic piano/organ/etc. Whoa hang on their friend, I love my Matrixbrute but the keybed is the least premium thing on it. when you release the keys they go boioioioioing and aftertouch is extremely lol especially compared to hydrasynth my current keybed tier list for big synths: 1. super 6 2. moog granny 3. hydrasynth 4. wavestate and matrixbrute I was real gung ho about Polybrute then I tried the keyboard. Making me think what I really want is a Hydrasynth Deluxe, although that stupid empty space on the right is so stupid
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seriously i just took this video look/listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx7hMg0NJsk
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chaosbreather posted:although that stupid empty space on the right is so stupid its for putting other synths on. not joking. literally my biggest beef w/ my 61 key flagship is it doesn't have one
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JamesKPolk posted:its for putting other synths on. not joking. literally my biggest beef w/ my 61 key flagship is it doesn't have one hmm i do love other synths
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chaosbreather posted:hmm i do love other synths Whoa, same
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I’m at the home shake concert and the opener was a cool girl with all hardware synths and a sampler for drum loops if I could only sing I could do that. She was awesome tho
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I heard that the best polysynth is Prophet 10, and the best monosynth is Minimoog. And those are the only two synths anyone would ever need.
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Ordered a Yamaha MG12XU. Shopping for a mixer sucks when there are a bunch of synths and/or drum machines/groove boxes in play. You sacrifice EQ to get a more stereo-oriented set of channels. Product lines with readily-accessible EQ tend to only add mono channels as they increase in inputs. It's hard to find sweepable mids in what I would consider to be a reasonable sized mixer for hobbyist desktop use. I settled for an upgrade in input count and build quality in the vein of what I was already using. Maybe I'll pick up a stereo-oriented thing as a sub mixer in the future, but I'm happy to be done looking for now. I also don't think I can pre-order any shiny new things recently announced. I'm moving to another country in July and slow rollouts have me weary.
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A MIRACLE posted:I’m at the home shake concert and the opener was a cool girl with all hardware synths and a sampler for drum loops if I could only sing I could do that. She was awesome tho Run your voice thru some pedals like Dan Deacon
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McCoy Pauley posted:Having spent part of the day resolving a weird issue where HALion was showing me all kinds of content in Artist 12 that I couldn't access and I thought my licenses were messed up and reinstalled everything, but it turned out it was that Cubase had installed extra HALion content I didn't own without me realizing it . . . one sympathizes. Funny enough, one stretch of said rabbit hole was writing a 2500-word guide on getting HALion and Groove Agent presets to work. That's literally the sixth article I've published over the years on how to get presets/library content working in Steinberg plugins. I'm ride-or-die for Cubase, but Steinberg has got to figure this poo poo out. You may have solved one underlying mystery for me, though. See, I've been trying to repro that exact issue you describe- unusable Pro content when running Artist- but this lovely new licensing system of Steinberg's keeps forcibly (but silently) activating Cubase Pro on the computer where I installed Artist. I have seen that Pro content gets installed by the Artist content installer, but didn't have any issues loading the Pro presets. I think the reason I've never seen the problem you describe because I'm never really running artist due to this Steinberg Licensing shitshow.
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Ok Comboomer posted:Run your voice thru some pedals like Dan Deacon I’m pretty sure they were rocking the ehx voice box for most of the vox, sounded exactly the same as mine at least. They closed with a sick deftones cover lol Good show. The wiltern is always a beautiful venue. Just have to sit upstairs to avoid the college kids
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A MIRACLE posted:I’m at the home shake concert and the opener was a cool girl with all hardware synths and a sampler for drum loops if I could only sing I could do that. She was awesome tho just scream loud and call it punk
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just talk into the mic about your hangups like James Murphy
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Question about sampling. I know back in the day when your sampler had like 30 seconds of memory at high sample rates, people would game the system by increasing the source speed (like sampling a 33 at 45rpm or artificially higher, then playing back the sample at a lower pitch to get the hardware to artificially stretch it back out. This basically crushed the sample which was a distinct sound as well. My question, or problem -- being more accurate, is that I'm struggling to understand the math here. 33 is 70-something percent of 45, but when you wrap this in the context of having to apply musical notation I'm not sure how you would figure out "ok I played a 33 at 45, if we assume middle C as a "start point" for this sample, how do I know what 70-something percent of middle C is, without resorting to "ok that sounds right" by ear? Does this make sense? I feel like the question made sense coming in, but now that I re-read it I'm.. like only 70-something percent sure it does 
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Table of note frequencies Frequency to Pitch calculator C4 = 261.63Hz 261.63 * 33 / 45 = 191.862 191.862 = G3 -37cents
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Oh there you go, I’m glad I wasn’t totally nuts. Thanks!
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I only paid $1000 for my OP-1 and I’m probably gonna sell it in a few months, so if I only get $700 I won’t be too upset, but secretly I’m hoping the OP-1 being discontinued will bring prices way up.
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Half the internet is obsessing over new TE gear, the rest of it is obsessing over the new Polylend toy. I was hyping myself up to get a Deluge and then that thing launches and I don't know what to do with myself now. They're comparable but not the same, and the worst part is each one has features I really want that the other doesn't. That korg oscillator looks pretty cool too, if they ever sell it without a book that's a sure buy.
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xzzy posted:Half the internet is obsessing over new TE gear, the rest of it is obsessing over the new Polylend toy. I was hyping myself up to get a Deluge and then that thing launches and I don't know what to do with myself now. 1.) find the company name absolutely on point, but not in a good way, 2.) don't really think they do great electronics, but do think they're an interesting & successful design firm, first and foremost, 3.) will probably never buy another one of their products, at least not their electronics, and almost certainly not new/direct from them (versus used). This is all subjective, of course: YMMV. That said, I was impressed that they shipped USB audio in the OP-1 firmware a while back, something like almost 10 years (or nearly so) after the OP-1 originally shipped. (That, though, was after a long period of nothing doing in the firmware, IIRC. Which is probably what made it at all notable; everyone had more or less given it up as "done" through lack of updates, but not due to an actual statement.) In other news, I'm probably gonna buy an OB-X8, aren't I? God dammit.
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minidracula posted:In other news, I'm probably gonna buy an OB-X8, aren't I? God dammit. Just saw they hired the guy who did the other much-maligned OB-Xa clone as a DIY project, which is kinda cool
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JamesKPolk posted:Just saw they hired the guy who did the other much-maligned OB-Xa clone as a DIY project, which is kinda cool
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xzzy posted:Half the internet is obsessing over new TE gear, the rest of it is obsessing over the new Polylend toy. I was hyping myself up to get a Deluge and then that thing launches and I don't know what to do with myself now. If its an updated/variant version of the Patch And Tweak hardback it's a decent book if you don't have a copy, at least the original version I have is.
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JamesKPolk posted:Just saw they hired the guy who did the other much-maligned OB-Xa clone as a DIY project, which is kinda cool Too bad this never went anywhere: https://www.soundonsound.com/news/shear-relic-6-modernised-ob-x-made-18-year-old The mix of savvy businessperson, good engineer and good musician is truly a unicorn thing; most manage one, few manage two. minidracula posted:The real kicker is I'm also waiting on my VS-1. oof
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Happened to be in Detroit and checked out Detroit Modular. Very cool shop with a good inventory as well so if you're in the area I'd recommend checking it out.
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xzzy posted:Half the internet is obsessing over new TE gear, the rest of it is obsessing over the new Polylend toy. I was hyping myself up to get a Deluge and then that thing launches and I don't know what to do with myself now. FWIW I like my Deluge a lot, and they're still putting out big firmware updates (ie making their current product better instead of constantly launching new hardware). The biggest complaint I have, and it's not a small complaint, is that the "screen" only shows four (4) (less than 5) (yes, really, four) characters at a time, which makes browsing samples and presets and songs etc a real chore. Otherwise, A+, strong recommend. I've never used an OP1 though, and like you say they do different things.
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Oops, I wasn't trying to compare Deluge to OP1, I'm comparing it to the Polyend Play.. which definitely fixes the screen issue. But you lose out on the synth so it's a give and take.
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some kinda jackal posted:Oh there you go, I’m glad I wasn’t totally nuts. Thanks! the easy thing to do is double the pitch of the source then play back at half speed which returns you to the original pitch of the sample. conveniently, octaves are 2x. ie. original sample at c4, pitched up to c5 (double speed), mapped to c5 as root pitch will, if I didn't gently caress up the example, play c4 at c4. audacity should have a pitch shift, sound forge does
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