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Ginette Reno posted:Rossi was apparently talking all kinds of poo poo on twitter: I always figured they're gonna go for it every year as long as Crosby still can play but uh if this is the approach they may as well go full nuclear?
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THE MACHO MAN posted:I always figured they're gonna go for it every year as long as Crosby still can play but uh if this is the approach they may as well go full nuclear? As others have pointed out it is coming from Rob Rossi who is like our Larry Brooks. He has connections and hears things but he's also extremely inflammatory and stretches the truth.
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There's still 22 hours to get in on round 2's red Xes. This round includes a guess for total penalty minutes in the second round. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4000767&pagenumber=6#lastpost
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Ginette Reno posted:As others have pointed out it is coming from Rob Rossi who is like our Larry Brooks. He has connections and hears things but he's also extremely inflammatory and stretches the truth. ah okay that makes sense thanks
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Ginette Reno posted:As others have pointed out it is coming from Rob Rossi who is like our Larry Brooks. He has connections and hears things but he's also extremely inflammatory and stretches the truth. The Fan posted the clip when Rossi says it was Hextall and Rossi comes off as such a sleaze. https://twitter.com/937theFan/status/1526371592414105601?s=20&t=_U97CIo1dvYC0wAGtQK6zg "He's told no by the general manager." "Hextall told him he wasn't allowed to play?" "Yeah the Penguins told him." "And you were told it was specifically that it was Hextall" "Well that would be the general manager making the case, I'm not saying it was Hextall only decision" Meanwhile he's spinning the narrative that Hextall and the ownership are clashing 
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It sounds a great deal like he is making poo poo up based on the kind of guesses anyone can make (such as "Burke/Hextall were the previous owner's guys and probably won't stay long under the new owner", "Crosby wanted to play Game 6/7 despite being obviously hotbrained", and "Crosby isn't happy the Pens refused to pay his BFF Letang all the money") so he can claim credit for having Super Connected Sources when in fact he is just guessing and trying to take a hatchet to Hextall, presumably for telling him to gently caress off one too many times. But that would be so out of character for him.
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Marner got carjacked because he drove a nice car https://twitter.com/TheTorontoSun/status/1526381682944786432?t=Zoto8RmSlp_ahMF8My8pbg&s=19 Just another kick to the balls of the buds.
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poo poo hatchet job too. Hextall's biggest thing in Philly was running a super tight ship without leaks and also being super controlling over it. If you're going to say someone was blab mouthing you gotta pick Burk'ie.
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Feeling sorry for Mitch, that’s horrible  As someone who grew up in Etobicoke, I can say I choose to live downtown because that place loving sucks. It’s where to go if you want a giant house with nice surroundings though.
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Selke runner-ups this year are Barkov and Lindholm
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https://twitter.com/OtherNHLCrosby/status/1526577602256830464?s=20&t=lB7sX1y8gjxHQewvY6YcIQ Was nice knowin ya Rusty. Thanks for the big goals in the cup runs. Ginette Reno fucked around with this message at 16:28 on May 17, 2022 |
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They have Guentzel for 2 more years and then he'll be a 30 year old UFA too. Can't believe he's 27 already, gods I'm getting old. But at not quite 30 with his track record, particularly of pouring in goals in the playoffs, he is going to get a gargantuan contract, like 8x9 or something. If they get in the tank this summer or next you have to figure he'll be traded. They can probably get a massive haul for him at the 2024 deadline, he's like the ideal deadline rental. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 16:22 on May 17, 2022 |
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Bergeron is a Selke finalist for the 11th year in a row, which breaks a Gretzky record (most consecutive years as a finalist for any award - not super exciting). The more staggering stat I saw was that Bergeron has been listed on 92% of all ballots cast for the award in that time period. They should name the trophy after him instead.
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Alizee posted:
Yeah, I think you can do a lot worse than someone like Dubas and I think too many people forget how bad Lou, and Nonis before him, were. That being said giving Trotz all the money in the world seems to be the obvious descision
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It would be hilarious if Boston replaced Bergeron by trading for Scheifele.
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Koth posted:It would be hilarious if Boston replaced Bergeron by trading for Scheifele. I mean, depending on what they gave up I'd be fine with that. If Bergeron we're to retire right now, Boston's first line center would be Erik Haula or Charlie Coyle. They don't have a prospect they can plug in, and the best pending free agents are probably like Trocheck or Kadri. A trade is the only real option if Bergeron decides to hang em up.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I mean, depending on what they gave up I'd be fine with that. If Bergeron we're to retire right now, Boston's first line center would be Erik Haula or Charlie Coyle. They don't have a prospect they can plug in, and the best pending free agents are probably like Trocheck or Kadri. A trade is the only real option if Bergeron decides to hang em up. So, you're saying Boston has the center depth of the 2014 Minnesota Wild. I did like the way they played, but neither one is a 1st line center and you're right about it being really sparse on the market. Coyle will do a good impression of it at least, but you won't get more than maybe 40-50pts out of him.
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Ginette Reno posted:https://twitter.com/OtherNHLCrosby/status/1526577602256830464?s=20&t=lB7sX1y8gjxHQewvY6YcIQ I hope he gets paid and does very well... elsewhere. Edit: I think this summer Pittsburgh should do everything absolutely possible to not become a mess like Chicago. They've done very very well of having very few bad contracts. A few that aren't good value or questionable like Matheson, but otherwise nothing toxic on the books. After this UFA period though that may no longer be the case or their hand is forced and the team is priced out of their players anyways. rex rabidorum vires fucked around with this message at 17:29 on May 17, 2022 |
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Kadri take another hometown discount and be future-LW John Tavares’ new centre challenge
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Jhet posted:So, you're saying Boston has the center depth of the 2014 Minnesota Wild. Ya pretty much. Boston was spoiled for a decade + with Bergeron and Krejci on cheap deals. But now their time is over, or nearly over, and being a constant contender meant they traded a lot of firsts around too. There are decent center prospects in the system but they seem more like bottom six guys at best. Haula is actually the better of the two. Coyle can't even do a good #2 impression anymore. He's fine in his 3rd like role but he couldn't score even when he got to play with Hall and Pastrnak, which is kind of astonishing.
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Koopa Kid posted:Kadri take another hometown discount and be future-LW John Tavares’ new centre challenge Have a heart, the guy only just got out of Toronto.
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rex rabidorum vires posted:I hope he gets paid and does very well... elsewhere. Matheson's fine in terms of his cap hit. It's the length that really sucks. I actually don't mind their cap situation. For an old team, they haven't really handed out too many egregious contracts. The Carter contract is meh, but not a huge cap hit or super long length so whatever. Zucker is a little overpaid and they need more out of him or to move him if possible. Kapanen sucks but I'm sure they'll move on from him or give him a prove it deal. Dumoulin is declining but is probably still more or less worth what he makes. He's also definitely tradeable I think if they decide to move on. I think they're actually decently setup for the next while in terms of contracts. There's nothing that is really going to weigh them down for years to come. They can probably avoid being Chicago assuming their stars don't suddenly fall off a cliff and assuming they manage their cap situation.
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achillesforever6 posted:Speaking of Dumo https://twitter.com/PensInsideScoop/status/1526606367464767490 God if he comes back even slower
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https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1526614546001149952?s=20&t=M26r0kUCQ1SLEUiddoxggA There it is, the most “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas” front office in the NHL e: https://twitter.com/draglikepull/status/1526616036870701056?s=20&t=M26r0kUCQ1SLEUiddoxggA The only person blaming the goalie this year (and I was very critical of Andersen in his time here) might be Kyle Dubas? I’m still betting they sign Jack because… what else have they got Koopa Kid fucked around with this message at 18:31 on May 17, 2022 |
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You want to see something gross? .... are you totally sure? Well, okay, I warned you. 
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why would you post that
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Koopa Kid posted:why would you post that Why would I watch Toronto Maple Leafs playoff hockey?
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Koopa Kid posted:https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1526614546001149952?s=20&t=M26r0kUCQ1SLEUiddoxggA "we're not gonna make a move just to make a move. We're gonna make a move because our team flamed out of the first round of the playoffs for a sixth consecutive season and at some point it becomes the definition of stupidity to go back with the same group again."
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Ya pretty much. Boston was spoiled for a decade + with Bergeron and Krejci on cheap deals. But now their time is over, or nearly over, and being a constant contender meant they traded a lot of firsts around too. There are decent center prospects in the system but they seem more like bottom six guys at best. Haula joining gave Minnesota 3 Finnish centers all at the same time. It was absurd. He was good at UMN and had some really good progress before having a great first season in Vegas. Then 4 years of injuries. He never quite had the finish (lols) that Grandlund had, but I was disappointed when he got taken in the expansion draft. I would have liked to see how he'd progressed in Minnesota, but Eriksson Ek was on the way into the team and the team had like 11 centers and 3 actual wings. I hope Haula stays healthy for a while, he's fun to watch.
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Jack Campbell wasn't the reason they lost but he wasn't particularly good in that series either, he has less than a calendar year of looking like a good starter and he's already in his 30's. You go back to him if he's cheap and you can't find something better.
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2020 play-in round: Game 4 the Leafs go down 3-0 to Columbus, almost being knocked out before a huge rally in the third for an OT win. Game 5 the Leafs go down 3-0, never scoring. 2021 round 1: Up 3-1 in the series, the Leafs go down 2-0 to start both games 5 and 6, coming back but losing in OT both times. They start down 2-0 once again in game 7 and can’t come back, only scoring one goal. 2022 round 1: The Leafs go down at least 2-0 to start games 4, 5, and 6, managing a comeback once. In game 7 the Leafs only start down 1-0, but once again they can only manage to score once and they lose 2-1. The Leafs haven’t scored first in an elimination game since 2019. They’ve started down multiple goals before scoring in every game in that span except for Saturday. Management and fans say there’s no pattern here, that the team is different and there does not need to be a change in personnel and approach.
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Mark Scheifele has 18 goals in 33 playoff games. Mitch Mariner has 7 in 39. Maybe they both need a change of scenery
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Duck Rodgers posted:Mark Scheifele has 18 goals in 33 playoff games. Mitch Mariner has 7 in 39. Maybe they both need a change of scenery Counterpoint: Scheifele is a fake tough guy dickhead who’d probably just get himself suspended Kadri-style
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Winnipeg with Trotz would be interesting. They have enough talent there that they could probably be a consistent playoff team with a good coach.
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Koopa Kid posted:Management and fans say there’s no pattern here, that the team is different and there does not need to be a change in personnel and approach. I feel like Leafs fans have so little frame of reference for what a good team is in the salary cap world that it's paralyzing them with inertia. Sometimes you gotta be bold to get over the hump. The Canucks had bad goaltending their entire history so acquired Luongo and now they are a franchise goalie factory. Chicago added Hossa to their young core. Pittsburgh added Kessel and won two cups. Maybe things will be better next year if nothing changes, but when you're at the point when the general fan consensus is "nothing that happens in the regular season matters" it's time to get aggressive.
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ThinkTank posted:I feel like Leafs fans have so little frame of reference for what a good team is in the salary cap world that it's paralyzing them with inertia. Sometimes you gotta be bold to get over the hump. The Canucks had bad goaltending their entire history so acquired Luongo and now they are a franchise goalie factory. Chicago added Hossa to their young core. Pittsburgh added Kessel and won two cups. Part of what bothers me about Dubas and Shanahan's comments today is that obviously nobody thinks they just need to blow up the team for no benefit. Even at my craziest I'm not out here like "trade Marner for picks and sign Nick Paul and Bryan Rust." But at the same time it's absurd to me that people can look at how consistently they've been ineffectual as series go late and think that bounces are the only issue here, there's obvious systemic reasons why the Leafs get locked down and counterpunched by every team they play. I do agree that fans get comfortable with players and there's a lot of clutching with respect to this team, fact is that most guys should look good next to the Leafs core and it doesn't make them valuable or irreplaceable. People were incensed when the Leafs signed Bunting and didn't sign Galchenyuk last year, people defended Holl as a legitimate top-4 guy, they fell in love with Kerfoot for riding Nylander's coattails in the Montreal series. IMO there's a lot of guys you could ship off this roster and replace pretty readily. But most of all I'd still like to see what they can do with a coach whose systems don't promote the most dangerous chances against while limiting his own offence.
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