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marshmonkey posted:Translation: "the dems refuse to slob my knob!" Yeah, abandon the party that gave you the $7500 federal EV rebate that made Tesla successful.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:isn't there a consistent effort to remove the ability of Congress to delegate authority to agencies as well? Seems like the end of the government itself and a return to the 1800s Some would argue that if we were one ruling away from the end of modern America, we were completely screwed to start with. The actual number was _two_ rulings; this one and the SCOTUS ruling upholding it.
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plogo posted:Housing and education are included in the CPI which is the most commonly referred to measure of inflation in the popular press. Granted, there are plenty of arguments to be had about how these are included and the Fed ostensibly pays most attention to Core PCE as their inflation metric. But here is a breakdown: Oh poo poo, I learned something.
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May 18, 2022 22:12
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VideoGameVet posted:Yeah, abandon the party that gave you the $7500 federal EV rebate that made Tesla successful. Elonk is mad that his lovely electric car company is imploding faster than his lovely electric cars can run over pedestrians while on auto-pilot and his ex-girlfriend dumped him, took his robot fashion accessory son away from him, and is now loving Chelsea Manning.
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Always remember that Tesla does not make money as a car company, it makes money as a pollution laundering company
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May 18, 2022 22:16
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Jaxyon posted:That's more "telling people what they want to hear" than influencing them. They're not mutually exclusive though. Confirmation bias is huge in RWM circles. How else to explain the framing and the widespread idea and entrenched belief that a Biden administration is a failure of far left radical socialists policies? Or Obama for that Matter? I loving wish. And what's a "posting stampede?"
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Manager Hoyden posted:Always remember that Tesla does not make money as a car company, it makes money as a pollution laundering company The biggest valued car company that ranks 10th in production vehicles right?
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Unlike many right wingers who simply invent prior loyalty to the Democrats or other more nebulous totems representing "the left" I can believe Musk when he says he used to like the Democrats. Dude was palling around with Epstein and Maxwell after all
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plogo posted:Housing and education are included in the CPI which is the most commonly referred to measure of inflation in the popular press. Granted, there are plenty of arguments to be had about how these are included and the Fed ostensibly pays most attention to Core PCE as their inflation metric. But here is a breakdown: Sure, OK, but have you considered that "nobody wants to work anymore!?!?" I swear to god I'm gonna strangle or go off the next motherfucker I hear bring that stupid bullshit. ALL OF THIS nonsense is a direct result of capitalism and the so called free market.
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Mooseontheloose posted:The biggest valued car company that ranks 10th in production vehicles right? Lol 13th behind Mazda. And it is valued at 140x Mazda. And valued at 15x GM which is number one in the industry. Because it's all calvinball But yeah, Tesla has never had a net profit larger than its revenue from offset credits
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BiggerBoat posted:Sure, OK, but have you considered that "nobody wants to work anymore!?!?"
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes this is the long-predicted return to the Lockner Era Close. Lochner is the decision that said the government cannot regulate the conduct of private business, so you can shove all your workers in deathtrap sweatshops and no one can stop you. It is no longer in effect because the New Deal-era court came to its senses. The precedent that this 5th circuit decision ignores is Chevron, which okayed Congress granting legal force to decisions made by regulatory agencies. If that gets overturned, there is effectively no government outside the text of laws passed by Congress and signed by the President, which excludes the vast majority of the rules that make modern life safe and healthy. They do want both these things, of course
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Hey Biden finally decided to do the right thing far too late to make a difference https://twitter.com/edokeefe/status/1527046436004700161
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Hey Biden finally decided to do the right thing far too late to make a difference Pretty sure this will actually make a difference though.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Hey Biden finally decided to do the right thing far too late to make a difference He needs to do price controls on food next. The beef market is being so nakedly greedy they're even talking about it on the drat morning farm report.
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Oracle posted:He needs to do price controls on food next. The beef market is being so nakedly greedy they're even talking about it on the drat morning farm report. People shouldn't be eating beef
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Fart Amplifier posted:Pretty sure this will actually make a difference though. Yeah, but the damage is done. It should have happened several weeks ago. Failed Imagineer posted:People shouldn't be eating beef even just eating half as much results in massive benefits for health and the environment. However, the only way you could get me to stop is with that tick bite reaction that makes you allergic to red meat. Heck Yes! Loam! fucked around with this message at 23:23 on May 18, 2022 |
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Oracle posted:He needs to do price controls on food next. The beef market is being so nakedly greedy they're even talking about it on the drat morning farm report.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:even just eating half as much results in massive benefits for health and the environment. However, the only way you could get me to stop is with that tick bite reaction that makes you allergic to red meat. It's pretty easy to stop. The  technology has been here for a few years now
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Oracle posted:He needs to do price controls on food next. The beef market is being so nakedly greedy they're even talking about it on the drat morning farm report. What I don't understand about the price of beef is: how is it being sustained? Everyone's like "man beef is so loving expensive" but no one is like "hmmm, maybe we could eat literally any other animal?" I like a steak as much as the next guy, but a huge part of this insanity is the fact that the greed is paying off people because people still pay for beef even when it's absurdly expensive. Overall food prices are a huge issue, but the freakouts about one specific non-staple ingredient are ridiculous. It's like when cauliflower was really expensive. Good... then, eat literally any other vegetable? PT6A fucked around with this message at 23:29 on May 18, 2022 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:People shouldn't be eating beef be ironic if this is what it takes to wean us off red meat and fossil fuels. I'm paying 40 bucks to fill my prius tank. That's double what I usually have to pay. I got 65mpg on my last highway trip tho.
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Failed Imagineer posted:People shouldn't be eating beef Correct they shouldn't but tell me how that works out for you in outreach/canvassing. CommieGIR posted:Yes, but right now, people just need to be eating, period. Fix the inequality of capitalism before you try to reform a food system that struggles to get food to who it really needs to go to. this too I agree on beef being terrible but I can't imagine a less leftist way to change things. Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 23:39 on May 18, 2022 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:People shouldn't be eating beef Yes, but right now, people just need to be eating, period. Fix the inequality of capitalism before you try to reform a food system that struggles to get food to who it really needs to go to.
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Leftism is when you condemn billions of the worlds poorest people to heat death
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Musk is having some sort of Twitter meltdown, threatening to close down a Tesla factory, saying Tesla has a terrible ESG score (the rating of a company's financial risk to environmental, social, and government policy effects) and is proud of it, and saying he won't comply with Twitter's plan to force him to go through with the purchase. Since Tesla's ESG score has collapsed (due to lawsuits, regulatory crackdown concerns, and concerns about future electric car subsidies making Tesla less popular), the S&P 500 removed Tesla from it's index of top stocks that meet ESG requirements. Musk has responded by saying he is going to make even riskier moves to drive down their ESG rating to prove it doesn't matter to him. Tesla stock is down 7.4% since he started tweeting. https://twitter.com/EricBalchunas/status/1526952515090120704 https://twitter.com/thehowie/status/1526962327349825537 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526961753619369987 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526958110023245829 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526823877724217348
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when the internet was first being started, did anyone dream one day we can watch a billionaire meltdown in real time
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World Famous W posted:when the internet was first being started, did anyone dream one day we can watch a billionaire meltdown in real time Although I guess for Trump it wasn't a meltdown as much as continuing to exist as a molten puddle.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Musk is having some sort of Twitter meltdown, threatening to close down a Tesla factory, saying Tesla has a terrible ESG score (the rating of a company's financial risk to environmental, social, and government policy effects) and is proud of it, and saying he won't comply with Twitter's plan to force him to go through with the purchase. oh god please destroy tesla you fuckin fream
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Failed Imagineer posted:Leftism is when you condemn billions of the worlds poorest people to heat death I thought it was scolding them on eating habits when they can't afford to feed their families. "Listen I know the bricks your house is built out of are melting but you should have thought about that before wanting to eat beef". If you have beef against beef, and you should, you are complaining about the wrong end of the process. Edit: Anticipating your response: Yes not everyone eats beef there's all sorts of foods that are unsustainably produced, though few as bad as beef. Point is you're focusing on the wrong end. Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 23:58 on May 18, 2022 |
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CommieGIR posted:They just keep digging that hole... They aren't digging a hole, they are building the world they want.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Leftism is when you condemn billions of the worlds poorest people to heat death There are significantly bigger issues to fix before we slaughter every last beef cow. Unless you were under the impression that they'd be allowed to survive, a species almost entirely dependent on human care due to selective breeding. Gripweed posted:They aren't digging a hole, they are building the world they want. 
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Hey Biden finally decided to do the right thing far too late to make a difference lol, that FL congresswoman's pics & videos from the concentration camp probably pushed him into doing something. I'm still gonna call it that those clips will be featured in no small number of GOP political ads heading into the general, bc they exploit the anti-immigrant sentiment among voters of both parties & also parents' primal emotions. Willa Rogers fucked around with this message at 00:02 on May 19, 2022 |
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World Famous W posted:when the internet was first being started, did anyone dream one day we can watch a billionaire meltdown in real time Dude, I lived through & remember Perot '92, and that was when the internet was practically a military brat.
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PT6A posted:What I don't understand about the price of beef is: how is it being sustained? Everyone's like "man beef is so loving expensive" but no one is like "hmmm, maybe we could eat literally any other animal?" I like a steak as much as the next guy, but a huge part of this insanity is the fact that the greed is paying off people because people still pay for beef even when it's absurdly expensive. https://askhistorians.libsyn.com/askhistorians-episode-138-red-meat-republic-a-commodity-history-of-beef-in-america-wprofessor-joshua-specht
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Believe it or not, there were lots of funny meltdowns (political & otherwise) that were caught on antenna tv. 
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Willa Rogers posted:Believe it or not, there were lots of funny meltdowns (political & otherwise) that were caught on antenna tv. That's why I say "hey man nice shot" Edit for context/content https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey_Man_Nice_Shot quote:The song was written about the public suicide of Pennsylvania state treasurer R. Budd Dwyer on January 22, 1987, in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Dwyer had been convicted of bribery charges in December 1986, and was expected to receive a long sentence from U.S. District Court Judge Malcolm Muir. Professing his innocence and decrying the legal system, Dwyer shot himself with a .357 Magnum revolver during a press conference without injuring anyone else. Lib and let die fucked around with this message at 00:06 on May 19, 2022 |
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CommieGIR posted:Yes, but right now, people just need to be eating, period. Fix the inequality of capitalism before you try to reform a food system that struggles to get food to who it really needs to go to. But you were the one who specifically suggested price controls on beef specifically. Beef is bad, so why not put price controls on other food? The failure in the system getting food to people isn't based on beef. If we put price control on chicken instead of beef, it's not like people would starve for lack of beef. Jaxyon posted:I agree on beef being terrible but I can't imagine a less leftist way to change things. People can eat stuff that isn't beef. If we do price controls on foods that aren't beef, that's not punishing people for eating beef. It's just not reinforcing an extremely unsustainable industry. This isn't like cars, where there is a significant barrier for people to stop using a car. Anyone can easily eat foods other than beef in the blink of an eye. Gripweed fucked around with this message at 00:09 on May 19, 2022 |
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Lib and let die posted:That's why I say "hey man nice shot" Politicians used to know how to do the right thing for the country...
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Gripweed posted:But you were the one who specifically suggested price controls on beef specifically. Beef is bad, so why not put price controls on other food? The failure in the system getting food to people isn't based on beef. If we put price control on chicken instead of beef, it's not like people would starve for lack of beef. That wasn't me at all. But I think we should price control the whole lot.
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Mooseontheloose posted:I am not an economist but I wanted to key in on this too. Housing and education aren't priced into inflation calculations, its still based on what an average American buy in their basket (fairly well explained here in this West Wing clip. But also our super low inflation with super low interest rates basically allow buisnesses to be super risky and just fund the dumbest poo poo possible and they can take the hit. all that crypto money and corporate money into real estate is because they want to a huge pay off and can take out ridiculous money with little consequence because they can pay it easily. Real estate gains clearly just are beating inflation because money is stupid cheap and offer bigger rewards than actually saving. literally not true on the housing part, shelter inclusion in CPI calculations etc is a little more complicated but it's not 'not priced in'
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