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sigher posted:Whatever it is, it's going to be terrible. Why?
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May 25, 2022 17:02
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sigher posted:Whatever it is, it's going to be terrible.
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May 25, 2022 17:08
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sigher posted:Whatever it is, it's going to be terrible. It’s gonna kick rear end
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May 25, 2022 21:07
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the hunter has become the hunted and the predator must elude zaroff for three days or be killed
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May 25, 2022 21:24
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When are we getting Predator vs. the Purge
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May 25, 2022 21:25
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Has the thread talked much about "Without Warning," the first movie to star Kevin Peter Hall as an alien hunting humans? It's a very low budget horror movie that feels a lot like a Friday the 13th knockoff, but looks great, is filmed by Dean Cundey, has roles with Cameron Mitchell, David Caruso, Jack Palance, and Martin Landau, plus a couple of other old Hollywood character actors. There are some pretty grody alien effects with these little flying discs that are like starfish but with tons of teeth, and the obligatory shack with dead bodies that have been attacked by the hunter, shades of Aliens there. It's low budget, but still better than most of the Predator movies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEfiNxMsI_0
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May 25, 2022 22:19
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I disagree because I think Predator has 3 good to great movies and one stinker. But without warning is OK but the concept and alien are far cooler than the film.
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May 25, 2022 22:24
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CelticPredator posted:I disagree because I think Predator has 3 good to great movies and one stinker. Are you including the AvP movies? Predator and Predator 2 are great, and Predators has some moments, but I've not felt the need to revisit it. I haven't gotten around to watching the latest one though.
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May 25, 2022 23:02
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predator predator 2 and predators are good movies imo
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May 25, 2022 23:13
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:predator predator 2 and predators are good movies imo I don’t even hate The Predator and I softened on it on a rewatch, and it has some cool moments but as a complete movie it’s a mess.
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May 25, 2022 23:34
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PeterCat posted:Are you including the AvP movies? I’m not only because they’re team ups. Only counting solo films.
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May 25, 2022 23:44
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they should adapt bad blood into movie because bad blood owned and was a predator vs predator story done right and it owns
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May 25, 2022 23:45
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I got hyped as gently caress in Predators when they went at it. It got my fanboy soul kickin
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May 25, 2022 23:50
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the super predators were cool
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May 26, 2022 00:01
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Predator 4 having a completely different kind of Super Predator was really stupid. And, just like in Predator 3, it kills off the regular Predator. I was so onboard with Predator 4 when I thought it would be about Predator and the Narcos guy teaming up to take on shady government black ops. What is it with Predator sequels constantly doing homage and recycling stuff? I remember watching Predator 3 with my wife and when Long Tall Sally kicked in for the credits she said, "Why the gently caress is this playing?" Well, I said, it played in the background of a scene in the first movie.
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May 26, 2022 19:06
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The original ending had these scientist predators who’ve been working with the us government team up with the loonies to help them fight the super predator. There’s pics of a predator driving a tank. They cut it for no reason
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May 26, 2022 19:50
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CelticPredator posted:The original ending had these scientist predators who’ve been working with the us government team up with the loonies to help them fight the super predator. They even made action figures of those two Emissary Predators wearing fatigues and holding human weapons, just cuz. Their heads have interesting, unconventional shapes. I think the logic was that if human heads/faces have different shapes and sizes across the species, it can be inferred that Predators are different, too.   https://youtu.be/4N58PkPAQzA
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May 26, 2022 20:00
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What was the deal with The Predator, anyway? How did it turn out to be such a mess? I remember when Shane Black was the glory boy in town, and everybody wanted to hire him as a writer. Did the studio meddle, or has Black just lost it, or first-time failure as director?
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May 26, 2022 20:13
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MrMojok posted:What was the deal with The Predator, anyway? How did it turn out to be such a mess? Whole lotta studio meddling. https://www.avpgalaxy.net/predator-movies/predator-4/deleted-scenes/amp/ https://youtu.be/kmc4KHIsxrg
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May 26, 2022 20:24
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Xenomrph posted:Whole lotta studio meddling. So reading that and these alternative endings they may have shot, how in the gently caress are Ripley and Newt involved in that at all? They literally aren't alive for hundreds of years. I don't even get where that idea comes from. Arnold or Glover maybe, but those 2?
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May 26, 2022 20:34
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They were trying to do the universe MCU thing But they settled with iron man
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May 26, 2022 20:57
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CelticPredator posted:They were trying to do the universe MCU thing I also get a lol out of the idea that it first attaches itself to some random no-name scientist and he could have accidentally obliterated everyone in the room if he moved wrong or something.
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May 26, 2022 21:34
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Xenomrph posted:They even made action figures of those two Emissary Predators wearing fatigues and holding human weapons, just cuz. they should have went with this because it would have been less boring and stupid than what we got
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May 26, 2022 21:35
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Bloodcider posted:Predator 4 having a completely different kind of Super Predator was really stupid. And, just like in Predator 3, it kills off the regular Predator. I was so onboard with Predator 4 when I thought it would be about Predator and the Narcos guy teaming up to take on shady government black ops. The funniest part to me is they played the wrong version of Long tall Sally. I like they couldn't even be assed to Play the same one that was in the original.
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May 26, 2022 21:42
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ruddiger posted:Considering Cameron plagiarized Harlan Ellison for Terminator, I guess I never realized how much of his Aliens plot he owes to Crichton’s Westworld (which was the test run for Chrichton’s Jurassic Park). I think the differences are more interesting. The idea of creating a bunch of aliens just to have some aliens is, exclusively, an Alien 1 and Covenant thing. From the very start, when Mother has a conversation with her reflection in an empty helmet, you have AI characters striving to improve/replace an ‘imperfect’ humanity. Mother, David and Walter are acting totally at odds with what “the company” would want. (The Jurassic-Parkiest moment in the series is, then, when an accidentally-created alien casually smashes the image of Walter on a TV screen.) The fan dogma that the company wants the alien as a bioweapon originates in a misunderstanding: Ripley says she can’t imagine any other use for an alien, and that was taken as gospel because Ripley said it. But what Ripley herself doesn’t fully understand is that the alien serves no human purpose at all. Mother obviously isn’t particularly super-psyched to help some guy sell the alien to the US military, or whatever. She’s got her own ideas. (So, why would a human ever want an alien? One of the few good points in Alien 4 is that the amoral scientists are actually just bio-metallurgists, pursuing new flexible alloys or something. Yet, even then: why aren’t they just testing on animals???) When you get to Aliens, the colonists obviously weren’t hoping to domesticate the aliens at all. There’s no ‘park’ here. And, beyond that, you have the basic narrative of Ripley living a mundane life and then jumping into the disaster-already-in-progress. That’s very different from Westworld’s narrative of a fantasy game that gradually becomes “too real” for the otherwise-boring protagonists. It’s key to the therapeutic narrative, where the state of the colony represents the Ripley’s ‘inner turmoil’, and the pacification of the crazed workers represents her ‘inner peace’. Unfortunately, Aliens more closely resembles Crichton’s ridiculous climate-denial fantasy State Of Fear - and not just for the concept of weather-manipulation technology. If you permit the digression: State Of Fear isn’t exactly about climate change, for the basic reason that Crichton didn’t believe it existed. The whole ‘debate’ over whether climate change was real or not was largely irrelevant to him, because the true threat was the “state of fear” that would win Democrats elections and embolden the US’s terrorist enemies. The entire book is, consequently, about liberal bias in science and academia - its actual thesis presented in a brief moment where Prof. Smartypants declares cannibal tribes a racist myth, immediately before being eaten by said cannibals (a fate that Crichton describes with great relish). (In very limited fairness to Crichton, his conspiracy-theorism is not strictly right-wing; it bears a lot in common with ‘leftist’ conspiracy theories - e.g. that the threat of covid was invented by the powers-that-be as a scheme to prevent stock market collapse.) While Aliens isn’t as overtly moronic, the film displays a similar complete indifference towards even the basic concept of for-profit global climate modification. Good idea? Bad idea? Who cares! We’re talking corporate control over entire biospheres, yet focus is squarely on the ‘cannibals’ and those who enable them: “This is clearly an important species we're dealing with, and I don't think that you - or I, or anybody - has the right to arbitrarily exterminate them.” “Wrong.” “Yeah. Watch us.” In the above quote, Burke is, of course, totally right. If they get off the planet, the aliens have no way of following. The aliens pose no real threat compared to the threat posed by the atmosphere processor: “In a technical sense of wealth as embodied in values, there is more wealth in a society where you pay for water since freely available water doesn’t count as wealth. ... The same goes for air: if, due to worsening air pollution, we need oxygen to breath normally, our society will in a formal sense get much richer and a new profitable industry will emerge.” -Zizek It’s entirely plausible that the promise of unknown mineral wealth around the Hadley’s Hope colony is just a pretence to sell air and water to people who otherwise wouldn’t need to pay for it - increasing the wealth of the colonies and the United States overall. In any case, it’s easy to see the inevitably of better climates for the rich and so-on. SHISHKABOB posted:Hey SMG so I'm watching the movie Sicario for the first time and maybe it's cause I was reading this thread recently but in the opening shot of Emily Blunt in the APC it made me think of Sigourney Weaver in Aliens. Also, them finding a bunch of dead bodies in the walls of a house in Arizona made me think of the way the colonists in Aliens were gathered up. Just wanted to share these thoughts with the movie forums. Sicario is actually a thematic remake of The Empire Strikes Back, but comparisons to Aliens are inevitable for just about any film depicting militaries or militarized police. Cameron’s xenomorph, representing only scariness, is the perfect generic baddie. So of course they’re like drug dealers and gangsters too.
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May 27, 2022 04:48
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I don't think there's any one thing that could have saved The Predator, it was all-around one of the worst movies of the year, if not the worst.
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May 27, 2022 18:50
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Sodomy Hussein posted:I don't think there's any one thing that could have saved The Predator, it was all-around one of the worst movies of the year, if not the worst. The official Predator series, in general, has an insanely bad track record - especially when compared against Alien/AVP. Like, I’d rather watch fuckin’ Guyver: Dark Hero or some poo poo.
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May 27, 2022 22:59
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The only way to "fix" The Predator is making it a full on comedy farce. It's almost there as it is.
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May 27, 2022 23:28
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Someone years ago said that Mr. Bean vs Predator would be great, and I agree. "The predator becomes increasingly exasperated with failed attempts to kill Mr. Bean, who is completely unaware he's being hunted."
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May 27, 2022 23:33
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I’m an idiot, I took the bait, Predator movies rule though
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May 27, 2022 23:42
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Predator 1987 is like, the perfect riff on the action movies we saw in the early to mid 80s. Dutch and his team are near-cartoon level actionmen, I mean it’s the gear, the wisecracks, their physical builds. And when they attack the guerrilla camp they lay a primo action-movie rear end-whipping on them, with all the classic types of poses and shots you’d expect. Then things begin to change in the film, as they realize they are being hunted by something that’s a lot better at it than they are. The tables are totally turned, and as they get picked off one by one the actionmen are reduced to scared children. Kind of subverts the whole first half of the film. I love it.
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May 28, 2022 00:12
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Mister Speaker posted:Someone years ago said that Mr. Bean vs Predator would be great, and I agree. "The predator becomes increasingly exasperated with failed attempts to kill Mr. Bean, who is completely unaware he's being hunted." This is basically the hit man plot from Dumb and Dumber.
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May 28, 2022 07:26
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It struck me that Predator is basically a slasher movie, but with tough guys instead of horny teenagers. Since the franchise has already embraced crossovers, run with it: Expendables Vs Predator. Or The Fast And The Predator. "It's family... versus plasmacaster." Jason Statham could even be in either, or both!
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May 28, 2022 07:56
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freddy vs predator vs jason
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May 28, 2022 07:59
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Payndz posted:It struck me that Predator is basically a slasher movie, but with tough guys instead of horny teenagers. There's obviously some crossover, but Predator 1's actually a ghost story, in the same way that Alien 1 is a "haunted house in space". If you want to get real specific, Predator's a very transparent ripoff of Alien - albeit one of the most successful. It's pretty much the same movie, but in the jungle with mercenaries, instead of in space with a tugboat crew. The three Predator sequels at least provide a nice alternate look what the Alien series might have become.
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May 28, 2022 08:43
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MrMojok posted:Predator 1987 is like, the perfect riff on the action movies we saw in the early to mid 80s. I disagree with your premise, I don't think they start acting like scared children they start acting like normal people who deal with something that's beyond what they are used to. Being afraid of something you can't see that over matches you and has skinned people you view as equals would be terrifying. One of the fun parts about predator though is that the people being hunted don't just curl up in a ball and cry but actively try and fight the predator, just ineffectively. At least until Arnold figures out a weakness and exploits it at the end.
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May 28, 2022 09:33
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Be cool to see someone go into predator completely blind expecting just a conventional non sci-fi action movie
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FastestGunAlive posted:Be cool to see someone go into predator completely blind expecting just a conventional non sci-fi action movie e: Predator 2 with the FUTURE ULTRACRIME LOS ANGELES has the same issue Splicer fucked around with this message at 13:37 on May 28, 2022 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The official Predator series, in general, has an insanely bad track record - especially when compared against Alien/AVP.  16-bit Butt-Head posted:aliens colonial marines retconned hicks into being alive and the games attempt to explain how he was still alive was so stupid that i couldnt bring myself to hate it lmao  BiggerBoat posted:The subject of the old PS1 Alien Resurrection game came up in the Things Dragging This Game Down thread and it's so weird. https://twitter.com/yurahshia/status/1429865513690226697 Assepoester fucked around with this message at 14:14 on May 28, 2022 |
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