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Jazerus posted:dataminer is extremely powerful with rock bottom as you can just roll the dice on higher stats indefinitely without ever losing stats to it. otherwise it's garbage Also if you have to use it, avoid using it in Hornfel's boss fight unless you want to make the fight completely illegible. 
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Data Miner has one niche use where you can roll your tears so low that they eventually roll over to the absolute max, but it takes forever and it needs an infinite charge setup. Edmund being so salted over data mining never made sense to me, as far back as flash Issac. Like… your game is always going to be torn open. Literally every single game now and forever will have its guts spilled everywhere day one no exceptions, which means if you want to do crazy hidden game stuff, you absolutely need to do something that is not ‘just place the data in the game’ because it’s gonna be figured out 20 seconds after Steam updates with the release.
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The Moon Monster posted:TMTrainer/Challenge 45 reminds of the infinite monkey typewriter thing. Yeah some of the monkeys will produce breathtaking works of art, but for every one of those there's an unfathomable amount of boring gibberish. I kept losing runs to poo poo like Genesis so I decided to just start scum until I found an active item with no charge time that did a bunch of damage to an area about 80% the size of a room as fast as you could mash spacebar. My favourite one was in a NorthernLion(?) run where he got to the end of the challenge but some item turned the trophy into a missile that exploded and then was gone. EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpdGjMSZ9dY The whole run is pretty funny/cursed RatHat fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Apr 30, 2022 |
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Apr 30, 2022 05:07
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PostNouveau posted:If you play it enough, something will hand you the trophy. Then you get the great reward of unlocking tmtrainer Challenge 45 unlocks the reverse Temperance card (a good/alright card). You have to beat the Beast as t.Eden to unlock tmttrainer (a run ruining item).
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Apr 30, 2022 08:42
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RatHat posted:My favourite one was in a NorthernLion(?) run where he got to the end of the challenge but some item turned the trophy into a missile that exploded and then was gone. i saw that live and it was an incredible moment
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PostNouveau posted:It's pretty much about getting around the inherent fragility. Blank card + holy card, wooden cross, blanket, psy fly, algiz + tarot cloth + blank rune, stuff like that. I used ghost pepper. The blue flames eat bullets and perfection makes it so you shoot a lot of them. Don't get telefragged.
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Apr 30, 2022 14:17
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Black August posted:Data Miner has one niche use where you can roll your tears so low that they eventually roll over to the absolute max, but it takes forever and it needs an infinite charge setup.
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Apr 30, 2022 17:04
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On the one hand it was pretty obvious that that would happen, but on the other I don't blame him for being bummed out about it. It's not like dataminer is the only lovely item in the game (it does seem to show up a whole lot, though).
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Apr 30, 2022 17:43
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it is an inevitability, but that doesnt mean you cant get upset about it. with that out of the way, him saying it was like "downing a 100 dollar steak in a single bite" was pretty funny cause come on its not *that* cool
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Apr 30, 2022 17:52
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I loving hate Plum.
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I dont blame him for being bummed that dataminers spoiled a puzzle, but I do blame him for dataminer being a lovely item in the game, because that makes my experience worse and I wasnt involved in datamining the drat puzzle.
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It would be really nice if devil beggars just broke your shield as The Lost instead of auto-killing you. Fuckin' stupid to lose a run bc you were on auto-pilot and didn't swerve out of the way in time.
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That is a good point.
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I finally got Dead God. I was trying to find the Death Certificate for a week or so. I eventually had a run where I used diplopia, placebo, the D6, and an 48 hour energy pill to roll through something like 12 items in one secret room. I actually had some runs where I saw significantly more secret room items but it just wouldn't show up. I think I saw the Mega Mush 4 times, it was painful leaving it behind to hang on to my D6.
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I'm officially invoking the power of the thread because trying to beat Greedier mode as Tainted Lost is making me sad and unhappy all at the same time. The more horseshit a build I manage to get, the more likely it is I'm gonna lose track of what's going on and die to some minuscule, easily avoidable threat.
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ive taken the last month to playing t lost for fun and during a downpour or dross boss room i was like "I bet that loving worm boss is gonna spawn on top of me" and despite predicting it i wasnt able to get away in time and had my mantle completely decimated. then i fail the dps race and he does his little unpredictable and insanely fast rush attack that kills me. started a third save file and played a bit of bethany and i forgot that recently spawned enemies in challenge rooms, and i assume also in greed mode, dont have a lil grace period for wisps, so it erased almost all of them in one fell swoop. i honestly dont know why they never changed how enemies spawning on top of you work. its so bullshit
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May 6, 2022 23:14
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i'm never going to get a loving mark on this stupid god drat ghost
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ArfJason posted:ive taken the last month to playing t lost for fun and during a downpour or dross boss room i was like "I bet that loving worm boss is gonna spawn on top of me" and despite predicting it i wasnt able to get away in time and had my mantle completely decimated. then i fail the dps race and he does his little unpredictable and insanely fast rush attack that kills me. i've been helpfully informed that any instance of entering a new room and taking damage instantly is simply a skill issue
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RatHat posted:My favourite one was in a NorthernLion(?) run where he got to the end of the challenge but some item turned the trophy into a missile that exploded and then was gone. I watched a great Northern lion Spelunky 2 run where he tries to get the "speedrun" achievement, where you beat the final boss in 10 minutes or under. There isnt a timer until the victory screen he beat the game in 10:01
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ArfJason posted:ive taken the last month to playing t lost for fun and during a downpour or dross boss room i was like "I bet that loving worm boss is gonna spawn on top of me" and despite predicting it i wasnt able to get away in time and had my mantle completely decimated. then i fail the dps race and he does his little unpredictable and insanely fast rush attack that kills me. delirium teleporting on top of me with no warning has killed so many tainted lost runs
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Tractor beam is amazing against Ultra Greed, it really cleans up those spawns.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:I watched a great Northern lion Spelunky 2 run where he tries to get the "speedrun" achievement, where you beat the final boss in 10 minutes or under. There isnt a timer until the victory screen he beat the game in 10:01 there’s definitely an on-screen timer in Spelunky 2. Maybe he didn’t turn it on tho
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1529242148620468226 Fastest Hush kill I've had so far. Explosion of spiders is pretty effective.
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Yeah that's super fast. I beat hard mode Mega Satan using Dr. Fetus (with one heart left) earlier. Feels good.
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ArfJason posted:i honestly dont know why they never changed how enemies spawning on top of you work. its so bullshit They managed to nerf broken runs (arguably one of the most fun things to do in BOI) but kept all the loving horrifying design flaws in the game like boss armor, impossibly cramped rooms, enemies tping on top of you and metric fucktons of unavoidable damage everywhere. It's like Edmund doesn't understand his own game.
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if you think there are no more broken runs you clearly haven’t been playing the game
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Kawabata posted:They managed to nerf broken runs (arguably one of the most fun things to do in BOI) 
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There's some pretty insane runs you can get, but it was kind of annoying they nerfed the d4/d100 so badly
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The Fattest PI posted:There's some pretty insane runs you can get, but it was kind of annoying they nerfed the d4/d100 so badly Yeah, this may be what some people are seeing. They nerfed a lot of the items that make you automatically win, but they've added so many new interactions and OP items that it's opened up a lot more opportunities to break the game. It's often not in a way you've seen before though.
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watho posted:if you think there are no more broken runs you clearly haven’t been playing the game I haven't been playing it in a long time (I picked it up briefly right after repentance for maybe a couple of weeks) but Devil's room feels nerfed to poo poo, getting Angel's is still super sketchy, many of the previous run winners are nerfed into oblivion and maybe 50% of the new characters are fun to play. I have to say the new items, levels, mobs and bosses are pretty cool though, can't complain there. Maybe I still haven't encountered the new broken synergies you're talking about? It's weird though because it feels like they tried to balance the game to make it so that you can, say, maybe kill Mother after a less than awesome run but you really really can't most of the times. BOI's last levels are still chock full of tiny rooms with massive unavoidable bullshit where either you get out right away because you have enough damage/protection or you don't and lose 2-3 hearts without being able to do much about it.
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let me tell you about one of my favorites: JACOB'S LADDER I basically win every run I manage to get my hands on it with. good poo poo. highly recommend
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I still win every run I take past basement 2 (which is the vast majority, I don't startscum that bad), but they did get rid of most of the ways of "going infinite" that were in Antibirth+. I've heard it stated that Edmund didn't like seeing streamers break the game, which sucked because being able to break it was cool and fun. By break I don't just mean get a run that's virtually unlosable, that's still very attainable, I mean doing stuff like buying literally every item in the game from the shop. The power level of the Repentance items is really high too, so installing Repentance makes the game a lot harder and then it gradually starts to creep back towards easier as you get completion marks.
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I'm glad I spent hours trying to unlock some of the new run winning items like Rock Bottom, just for me to literally never have seen it 
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Picked up tboi again after finally finishing elden ring. Decided to try E&J because I only had one completion mark w him. Got birthright and the ladder first try. Hell yea.
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I'm trying to get completion marks with Tainted Eve and it's so loving terrible, every time the clots get stuck into rocks and stuff I get jacob and esau ptsd. A single boss with a room full of obstacles will immediately end your run unless you instantly kill it.
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Kawabata posted:I'm trying to get completion marks with Tainted Eve and it's so loving terrible, every time the clots get stuck into rocks and stuff I get jacob and esau ptsd. A single boss with a room full of obstacles will immediately end your run unless you instantly kill it. Tainted Eve is tough for the first two floors or so but becomes ridiculously powerful once you get rolling. Just make sure not to slow down and get a good cadence for picking up hearts and popping your sumptorium, and you can have like 20 clotties out at any given time giving you massive DPS and an extra bar of effective HP.
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The Moon Monster posted:Tainted Eve is tough for the first two floors or so but becomes ridiculously powerful once you get rolling. Just make sure not to slow down and get a good cadence for picking up hearts and popping your sumptorium, and you can have like 20 clotties out at any given time giving you massive DPS and an extra bar of effective HP. I must be doing something wrong because I lose my army in one boss explosion/brimstone attack/aoe stuff. I never managed to complete boss rush in spite of getting there three times now because by the end of it my clot army is gone and I'm plinking at the health of the last bosses. It's also very, very slow to absorb and put your clots out again to prevent them "decaying" and it's kind of weird that on this character the game forces you to tap fire because by keeping the button pressed you'll drop to half a heart and get killed.
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The Fattest PI posted:I'm glad I spent hours trying to unlock some of the new run winning items like Rock Bottom, just for me to literally never have seen it secret room pool, so with some of the items that let you put pedestal items in secret rooms, you can roll them for a chance at it. theres a lot of cool new stuff like the reverse fool, reverse lovers and reverse stars that can spawn pedestal items, and especially reverse judgment which spawns a restock machine so you can reroll in there if there isnt already a reroll machine. not to mention other stuff like moving box but its a bit too specific and you give up an active. so dont sweat it, youll eventually find it normally too
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That is good tips but gently caress now I have to unlock the reverse cards that sounds hard edit: reverse lovers was super easy to unlock The Fattest PI fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Jun 1, 2022 |
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Beat Delirium with Tainted Lost so broken runs definitely exist. My collection included: Euthanasia Deaths touch Tough love (triple damage with perfection) Twisted pair Book of dead (protection in the way halo of flies used to be) + bookworm Birds Eye (constant fire removing all bullets) Echo chamber + PhD - didn't end up doing much but capped out speed by the end of the second floor and helped boost shot speed up to 3.16 6.5 Tears, 13 damage and 14 luck (perfection). Only sadness was no conjoined or guppy. Both 2/3. FQDL 8TZL Edit - after killing Delirium I managed to kill myself messing around. Torn Card is so bad. Who would possibly want ipecac boomeranging back at themselves? I'm glad you get the credit for the kill and not touching the treasure chest. Sad Panda fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Jun 1, 2022 |
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