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Aphrodite posted:The Jack Adams winner's big statement on his team maybe being screwed by a call was "oh well you know I didn't see it so yeah uh" I really hate that I like anything about the Flames but lmao Darryl Sutter is really the best.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:I don't think Jay Woodcroft mentioning his player being headshotted and it not being called means he thinks headshots are allowed in the rules. It's pretty rich saying that the league should look at Landeskog's hit, when his team was gooning it up the entire last 10 minutes of the game. I guess I should modify my post that you quoted: It's like they think it's legal for them to do those things, but illegal for anyone else to do so
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Jun 3, 2022 17:13
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love playoff posts complaining about complaining. all things circular
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Wonderllama posted:love playoff posts complaining about complaining. all things circular oh ya? well I hate them!
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Misanthrope posted:Why did the Islanders trade Toews for two 2nd rounders? He was going to arbitration and they wouldn't have been able to fit him under the cap having to re-sign Barzal and Pulock that year.
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Jun 3, 2022 18:15
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Chad Sexington posted:He was going to arbitration and they wouldn't have been able to fit him under the cap having to re-sign Barzal and Pulock that year. Yeah, there's no way they could have fit Toews' exorbitant $4.1M cap hit without moving out a critical contributor like Leddy, Pageau or Clutterbuck.
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OldSenileGuy posted:It’s easy to say Gallant “adapted” when, in this case, he adapted by swapping out the bad gritty veteran with a not-as-bad gritty veteran. I know people love this "play the kids!" thing but I think Jones/Schneider would be a loving terrible idea going into the playoffs. They'd get targeted and worked the gently caress over. Jones would for sure contribute more offensively but I think he'd be as bad or worse than Braun or Nemeth when forced to defend in his own zone. If it was going to be a thing I think having them play together for a good long while in the regular season would be the time to do it
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Levitate posted:I know people love this "play the kids!" thing but I think Jones/Schneider would be a loving terrible idea going into the playoffs. They'd get targeted and worked the gently caress over. Jones would for sure contribute more offensively but I think he'd be as bad or worse than Braun or Nemeth when forced to defend in his own zone. yeah Braun has been fine to good, honestly. Schneider too. Jones could have been more of an issue, but he would have been ready if we had been playing him on the third pair all season. but Braun has played it generally even. the bigger issue was that that pair got more time with Rooney/Reaves before Motte and Goodrow came back, and they were getting worked as a unit. It's hard to overstate how big of an impact having those guys back has been. I Get The Contract now.
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Jun 3, 2022 21:31
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You're not allowed to bring up the guy who got concussed from a dangerous hit, only the potential concussions from dangerous hits.
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Jun 3, 2022 21:50
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TeamJesus posted:https://twitter.com/user/status/1532764508225150976 That angle kinda sucks, but Yamamoto gets popped in the shoulder there?
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:yeah Braun has been fine to good, honestly. Schneider too. Jones could have been more of an issue, but he would have been ready if we had been playing him on the third pair all season. but Braun has played it generally even. Yeah, if the third pair had been Jones/Schneider for a good chunk of the year I'd be cool with running that into the playoffs, but Schneider wasn't even fully in the lineup until halfway or whatever. Throwing Jones into the playoffs without that kind of settle in period would be tough. And yeah, like, Goodrow isn't exactly producing in the playoffs right now but I think he elevates that fourth line a lot and gives you options, and seems to have given the whole team a boost. "Cup experience" may seem kinda dumb but I can't help but think it is useful for a group like this to have a guy like Goodrow saying "this is what you have to do"
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:That angle kinda sucks, but Yamamoto gets popped in the shoulder there? https://mobile.twitter.com/sjhurley95/status/1532735651728306185 He went right through his head This isn't an excuse for Drasaitil getting pissy when he's upset or the Oilers gooning it up later in the game but the idea that the coach shouldn't mention it is just insane.
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Frame 313 does seem to show some head contact, you can see how Kailer's head goes back and to the left.
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Levitate posted:"Cup experience" may seem kinda dumb but I can't help but think it is useful for a group like this to have a guy like Goodrow saying "this is what you have to do" Exactly. It's really not dumb to want experienced players like him because playoffs are so much about mental fortitude, weathering storms, compete level, etc. It does have some value to have won before and to guide a younger team through a playoff run.
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I'm actually curious if anyone has even seen what Woodcroft said cause he was asked directly about the hit and said he thought it was a dangerous hit but that its the referees call and not his job. It was the most benign answer a guy could give. I'm legit curious how anyone could be upset about his answer???
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:That angle kinda sucks, but Yamamoto gets popped in the shoulder there? Yeah, but he’s in a dangerous position because he’s only 5’ tall. Sure it sucks if he got hurt, but that’s not even a hit with much in it and he connects through the shoulder. Not every injury is a penalty and not every hit is a penalty. But as a coach he should absolutely be complaining about it. Gotta try to influence the next game however he can. And when his team still goes out and goons it up unsuccessfully again in game 4 he will complain again.
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Jun 3, 2022 22:23
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You can smash a dude's head all you want as long as you get a bit of shoulder or chest at the same time, and if you don't like that then keep your head up, kid! When I was coaching the Boston Bruins we used ta take a stack of those dollar store plates - you know what I mean the ones that yeah and just smash them on the front of the head like - what? You have the clip now? Okay roll it see right here
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Headhunting is cool and good, the league office has been consistent and clear about this. The onus is on players to protect themselves from it, if they can't do that then they don't belong in the man's league.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Headhunting is cool and good, the league office has been consistent and clear about this. The onus is on players to protect themselves from it, if they can't do that then they don't belong in the man's league. It's true. If they cared they would have at least fined some of the Oilers for the elbows they were aiming at heads with.
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Jhet posted:Yeah, but he’s in a dangerous position because he’s only 5’ tall. Sure it sucks if he got hurt, but that’s not even a hit with much in it and he connects through the shoulder. Not every injury is a penalty and not every hit is a penalty.   Sorry for youtube screenshots, the play button won't work if you try to click it. it's not a penalty because it's through the shoulder, and playing the body is the right move there for Landeskog, but it does suck a lot that Yamamoto got hurt. Seems like there were a lot of these kinds of injuries this year of a check through the shoulder/chest hitting the head, and the league should probably consider some kind of rule change to discourage this kind of legal-but-dangerous hit, but I doubt they will.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/sjhurley95/status/1532735651728306185 This is just as clean as at least a dozen other hits the NHL has deemed good hockey plays.
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the nhl does not care about keeping its players safe and you should disavow yourself of any notion that they do the nhlpa also does not seem to care about keeping its players safe, and that one should make you real depressed
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the Oilers should in fact be kept less safe than anyone else because they employ Evander Kane
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rex rabidorum vires posted:This is just as clean as at least a dozen other hits the NHL has deemed good hockey plays. to wit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bKvAz45eMk
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I know they didn't go nuts in the playoffs and instead just had Kadri gently caress up Binnington for revenge, but man, Barbashev really needs to answer the bell for that one first game back next season. there better be a line brawl and/or like 5-6 fights that game. the Stars need to get in on it, too. O'Reilly better drop em with someone.
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:seeing Kaspar's name reminded me of: 1. lol that out of everything in that video, Kasparaitis got a roughing for possibly the most legal check? 2. you serious with that turtleneck?
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I don't say this lightly at all but Kasparaitis might have been the dirtiest little fucker that ever played in the NHL. He lived to hurt people, and loved to cover it over with a poo poo-eating-grin "aw shucks, I didn't mean to, I just love playing hockey as hard as I can" act for the media. The specific outlawing of the knee-to-knee hit was informally but widely called the Kasparaitis Rule.
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eXXon posted:1. lol that out of everything in that video, Kasparaitis got a roughing for possibly the most legal check?  I think it was that lol, leading a hit like that is chef's kiss Eric the Mauve posted:I don't say this lightly at all but Kasparaitis might have been the dirtiest little fucker that ever played in the NHL. He lived to hurt people, and loved to cover it over with a poo poo-eating-grin "aw shucks, I didn't mean to, I just love playing hockey as hard as I can" act for the media. The specific outlawing of the knee-to-knee hit was informally but widely called the Kasparaitis Rule. yeah if we're going with little dudes, Kaspar is up there for sure. Kaspar was more of the low-hip-check-to-the-knee like Darcy Tucker, though, IMO. The undisputed king of the knee-on-knee though was/is Bryan Marchment, and that one I don't think is particularly close. he did stuff with knee hits that was...creative even. he was an injury artíste. here he is running Joe Nieuwendyk's knee directly into the boards. i'm 100% sure he was trying to fracture Joe's kneecap or something here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip3bWzEgIhE e: man I probably defend every borderline hit around here, but some of these are hard to watch even for me. here's him with a blatant one on Modano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuAOiIxNASo or the infamous one on Rucinsky, probably the literal textbook definition of a knee-on-knee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnCHMwddJCY&t=63s DO YALL WANT A BOXC fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jun 4, 2022 |
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:speaking of hits, the Athletic ran a nice piece about Trouba: I mean most of the Avs defense is fast though. I think putting McDavid on a different line than Draisaitl AND Kane seems like a mistake.
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Kaspar was a dirty little poo poo and I didn't like him as a player either, but I'll forever love his OT goal and celebration.
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DrunkPanda posted:I mean most of the Avs defense is fast though. I think putting McDavid on a different line than Draisaitl AND Kane seems like a mistake. I don’t know if line changes will help. The point I was making is that colorados team defense strategy changed and was super effective against Conner, and now Edmonton needs to adapt a much better zone entry strategy. Dump and chase obviously would work, but will mcdavid dump and chase?
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Kaspar was a dirty little poo poo and I didn't like him as a player either, but I'll forever love his OT goal and celebration. I admit his gleefully shouting "I OWN Hasek, I've scored twice on him now" after the game was awesome at the time
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The 90s/early 00s Penguins were much more hateable than any iteration of the Crosby era Penguins. I hated Lemieux and Kasparaitis and Martin Straka and loving Petr Nedved more than I’ve ever hated Crosby or Malkin. Probably hated them more because my 7th grade math teacher was a huge Penguins fan and he’d needle me every time the Penguins beat the Capitals, i.e. all the loving time.
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eXXon posted:you serious with that turtleneck? 
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I have to admit all i knew about the rangers for most of the year was that they were supposed to be rebuilding i think? and now they're 6 wins away from a cup win
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