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The whole comedic arc of gyunei as a character is that he usually gets to the correct takeaway of things happening around him but got there in the dumbest possible way every time.
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Waffleman_ posted:Sunrise doesn't want Amuro loving anyone it seems What's happening in the scene where he takes too long to get ready. Is he crying in the shower?
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Jun 4, 2022 04:50
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chars counterattack is the most important movie ever made
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Blaze Dragon posted:He's doing that, but he's also still obsessed over Lalah who COULD'VE BEEN HIS MOTHER despite being a literal teenager at the time of her death so I wouldn't exactly say Gyunei is all that mistaken, even if for reasons he doesn't actually know. I mean, Lalah was basically the first person Char ever emotionally connected with after becoming an anti-Zabi weapon, so it's not really weird that her death hosed him up and left him feeling empty, regretful, and bitter. Pining for what could have been if someone important to you didn't die is pretty normal. Char was pretty close to Lalah in age when she died; iirc she was 17 and he was 20.
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Jun 4, 2022 08:31
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it's still weird he wanted her to be his mom.
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Jun 4, 2022 11:41
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It's extremely normal
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What is the deal with Char's mom anyway? Who was she and what happened to her?
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Jun 4, 2022 11:49
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she died when he was young she's explained at length in the origin, but that's a separate continuity
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Arc Hammer posted:Someone post Tomino's quote about Nanai's cooch. chiasaur11 posted:"That’s why I absolutely had to give some thought to the state of Nanai’s pussy. Especially while writing the story and drawing the storyboards; “I don’t want her pussy to be all sad and tired out. If it is, Char will seem pathetic for sticking it in her, and she'll seem like a dull woman."
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Gaius Marius posted:It's extremely normal "Normal" or "common?"
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it's still weird he wanted her to be his mom. not at all https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud
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WrightOfWay posted:What is the deal with Char's mom anyway? Who was she and what happened to her? There's not much information on her in the normal continuity beyond "she died when Char was little". In the Origin version of events, after Sayla and Char's dad died, their mom(who, notably, was Zeon Deikun's mistress rather than his wife) was taken as a political hostage/bargaining chip by Zeon Deikun's legal wife after Deikun's death. She arranged for Hamon/Ramba Ral to smuggle Casval and Artesia out, but wasn't able to go with them, promising to reunite with them later. She got sick afterwards and died without ever reuniting with them, which hosed Sayla up pretty badly. It's not clear what emotional effect this has on Origin Char at that point, because Origin Char at that juncture was already pretty well down the driven sociopathic anti-Zeon weapon road. Given Char's whole life story in the normal continuity, my interpretation of "She could have been a mother to me" is that the dude is completely hollowed out and desperately starved for honest, no-strings-attached human affection from someone who actually understands him, rather than an oedipal "i want my mom to be someone i can gently caress" thing. The only person Char ever opened up to after going after the Zabis was Lalah, and she died horribly, so he spent the entire rest of his life stunted and twisted and closed off to everyone else. Kanos fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jun 4, 2022 |
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The delivery of "could have been a mother to me" in the CCA dub is one of my favorite parts, honestly. It really sells Char as a broken man at the end of his sanity. But then I'm partial to Michael Kopsa's Char performance generally.
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So, quick dump of some anon's impressions of Cucuruz Doan's Island from /m/ for anyone curious about it.quote:
It sounds kind of bland honestly; though obviously, that's when filtered through that one guy's opinion, and the actual movie might be a lot better to one person than his impression of it was. Still, it makes me feel like I might end up preferring the original episode to the movie, since I'm one of those weirdos who actually kind of like the original episode for showing the story of a soldier who just get fed up with Zeon's horrific warcrimes and turned his back on them. That said, didn't The Origin show M'Quve in a more sympathetic light; as someone who refused to launch nukes when ordered, rather than the original show's vision of him as someone who'd use nukes rather than admit defeat? Or was that another version of the character? If it was, then it sounds like this film is hewing more towards the original version of M'Quve for this story than The Origin interpretation. Just one more thing to suggest it's a blend of the two continuities as it's own thing, rather than strictly one or the other, I guess. Stairmaster posted:cope Maybe I'm too insulated with regards to SomethingAwful, since I only really visit 4 boards (ADTRW, TVIV and occasionally The Book Barn and Rapidly Going Deaf) but it's weird to see 4chan lingo in use here. My impression is generally that SA users look down on 4chan users, or at least, try to be better than them. That said, cope with what? Amuro fighting Char to a standstill after Char hypes up his appearance is generally how things go throughout Mobile Suit Gundam and Char's Counterattack. War and Pieces posted:He's already starting off looking pathetic by using the high mobility Zaku he's supposed to be too good for. Where is it established (or implied) that he thinks he's too good for the high mobility Zaku, out of curiosity? Kanos posted:Gyunei accusing Char of liking young girls is absurdly hypocritical, because in CCA Char is loving Nanai and everyone knows it while Gyunei is dropping the accusation to try to get in there with a 15 year old. I thought Quess was 13? 15 definitely sounds more appropriate given how she acts, honestly, but she's listed as 13 any time I've looked. Kanos posted:Given Char's whole life story in the normal continuity, my interpretation of "She could have been a mother to me" is that the dude is completely hollowed out and desperately starved for honest, no-strings-attached human affection from someone who actually understands him, rather than an oedipal "i want my mom to be someone i can gently caress" thing. The only person Char ever opened up to after going after the Zabis was Lalah, and she died horribly, so he spent the entire rest of his life stunted and twisted and closed off to everyone else. Char didn't open up to Lalah though. When he returns to the Zanzibar after his encounters with Amuro and Sayla inside the Texas Colony for instance, she asks him what's wrong since it's obvious that he's emotional over something and he just tells her not to pry, because some things are best left in the past. Char never told her anything about himself so far as the TV series (or movies, from recollection) show. He felt emotionally connected to her perhaps, but he didn't actually open up to her in any way. I think he shows more of himself to Dren than he does to Lalah. I'm not even entirely sure he actually realized his feelings for Lalah until after she died honestly, since he seems like he's manipulating her until then; including when he's kissing her. It seems like he's being close with her to keep her by his side, rather than because of any actual love on his part and the discussion they have inside Texas implies she's aware of it and okay with it, because she just wants to pay him back for saving her life. tsob fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Jun 4, 2022 |
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I like how the movie revolves around a plot to drop an asteroid on the earth to cause an extinction event, but this goal is at most secondary to any of the named antagonists. Nobody actually wants to do this, they just think they have to.
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Char absolutely wants to, as shown via the anger in his words when speaking to Amuro at the start of the film, while fighting at Fifth Luna; he's angry with Earthnoids, and wants to punish them. If anything, the rest of the reasons he gives in the film (bar Lalah) are just excuses to justify that.
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I disagree. I do believe Char wants to punish the earth but wanting to do something / needing to do something. Throwing rocks is something he feels he has to do because it might accomplish the goal he wants to achieve. But when the chips are down what he really wants is tobyhroe down with Amuro and the other zekes even have second thoughts. Those Geara pilots were real ones.
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Arc Hammer posted:I disagree. I do believe Char wants to punish the earth but wanting to do something / needing to do something. I think it's not even so much something he wants to achieve as something he feels he's obligated to achieve. As his father's son, he needs to fulfil the obligations of his name just so everyone will finally get all the way off his back. The Amuro thing is the only part that he's actually excited about.
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Char's real goal is to get topped by Armuro or else he would've never sent him that magic "T" in the mail. (the T stands for Top)
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He didn't send him the "T", October sent it to Chan so that Londo Bell would have as much psycoframe as possible given it's weird properties. Char sent the psycoframe for the Nu's cockpit block in an indirect means, but the sample Chan has was outside his intentions.
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In this case then, the “T” stands for “tedious pedantry”
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So, I decided to look up some numbers for Crossbone Gundam sales in Japan, to try to get an idea how popular the actual series is, as opposed how popular the Crossbone design itself is. Apparently, there's been over 3 million copies sold as of 2019. Now, I haven't found a breakdown of individual volume sales or release dates, but looking at the numbers and being a bit generous, that's about 100K sales a volume,. (It's a little lower, since more than 30 of the 35 volumes so far were released at that point, but it's close enough for government work.) Now, that's not the best selling Gundam manga (The Origin sold over 10 million copies, despite being only 24 volumes long, putting it around 400K sales per volume on average and letting it top the Oricon charts) or anything absurd for a manga in general (Blue Box is pulling about 200K a volume right now) but those are respectable numbers. Good to know, I guess. I still think it's a bad manga, with a lot of praise coming more from the exciting concept, a couple good designs, and the claims of Tomino involvement, but the evidence strongly suggests that it's one of the bigger titles in Gundam Ace because people like the manga itself.
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chiasaur11 posted:So, I decided to look up some numbers for Crossbone Gundam sales in Japan, to try to get an idea how popular the actual series is, as opposed how popular the Crossbone design itself is. I like Crossbone but you can tell he's straining a bit at times with the expected Gundam/Real Robot tropes, one of the only non Gundam works of his that has gotten an English translation Dancouga BURN is overall a stronger and more tightly made manga compared to his Crossbone stuff
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Waffleman_ posted:And for some whiplash, I'm gonna watch G next, baybee. Enjoy, G kicks rear end. Make sure to watch the dub for the right energy.
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this implies the japanese va aren't also hamming it up
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I also might sprinkle in a bit of 00 as well before that leaves Gundam.info.
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Waffleman_ posted:I also might sprinkle in a bit of 00 as well before that leaves Gundam.info. Having just finished season 1, Gundam 00 takes a while to get going, and doesn't feel like it knows what it wants to do with half the cast, but there are times it really pulls off its themes. I don't think it's even in my top 5 right now, and judging by the start the second season isn't going to help (the movie is terrible) but I'm glad I'm watching it. Edit: On review, it's not even one of my top five TV shows. Man there is a lot of good Gundam.
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The first episode got me interested enough and I like the mobile suit designs.
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Waffleman_ posted:The first episode got me interested enough and I like the mobile suit designs. Oh, I wasn't trying to discourage you. I was more trying to say that it's worth sticking with if the opening feels slow.
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Also my brain is broken, I saw the Exia's legs and recognized a couple of the bits on it as being similar to the legs on my HG Bael. I'm starting to see these robots as the plastic toys they were meant to sell.
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new trailer for G-Reco movie IV; https://files.catbox.moe/du2ciq.mp4
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i would give my left or right nut for banrise to buy the rights to the Sentinel characters and just go ham on it
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Waffleman_ posted:Also my brain is broken, I saw the Exia's legs and recognized a couple of the bits on it as being similar to the legs on my HG Bael. Fun fact: Several Gundam anime have designs that were specifically made to be as difficult to manufacture as possible due to spite against Bandai. If you've ever wondered why Bandai's model kit teams are the best in the world... muike posted:i would give my left or right nut for banrise to buy the rights to the Sentinel characters and just go ham on it Have you read Sentinel? It's been translated by fans if you know where to look. The characters and general plot setup aren't very good, but I agree that there's a lot of room for cool large scale fights. Sentinel is weirdly huge for a Gryps era conflict, especially one that's supposed to be a sidestory.
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Yeah it's not the story I want as much as seeing like the ultimate grognard mobile suits animated
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chiasaur11 posted:Fun fact: Several Gundam anime have designs that were specifically made to be as difficult to manufacture as possible due to spite against Bandai. Making my own Gundam series and designing the main suit with floating Rayman arms and legs.
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Waffleman_ posted:Making my own Gundam series and designing the main suit with floating Rayman arms and legs. Threw that poo poo before they walked into the room.
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Stairmaster posted:this implies the japanese va aren't also hamming it up No doubt, but the sub doesn't have Chibodee Crocket's power-up music be America The Beautiful so it's simply not as good.
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I dont know why G Gundam's dub gets gaff. Mark Gatha can't sound like a normal person but he's one of the all time great screamers in dubbing.
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Ibblebibble posted:No doubt, but the sub doesn't have Chibodee Crocket's power-up music be America The Beautiful so it's simply not as good. you can't use Chibodee as leverage for the dub when in the sub he's voiced by Hochu Otsuka, running around cursing in english and greeting Domon with "Hey Japanese"
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After the whole-rear end Tomino UC, it's so weird to see Gundams punching and kicking
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