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The Mead post is so loving maddening and the shining example of him being a loving troglodyte ivory tower rear end in a top hat. It's no wonder he can't loving write anything more, he lacks any ability to observe and appreciate the works and experience of others.
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Had to check to make sure this wasn't lottery of babylon Edit also man, I had no idea he was such a miserable shithead. What a chunk of garbage sephiRoth IRA fucked around with this message at 04:26 on May 25, 2022 |
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He's clearly a well educated person, can write to some level of skill, and yet at no point in his entire life ever developed a speck of self-awareness or reflection about his behavior, and thanks to his books+charity earnings he will probably never have to. The mead blog post reads like a blog post that has been precision guided to make his fans chortle with laughter, so it's possible that he's not really that dumb he's playing it up for the clicks. Then you read about how he poured almost $1 million directly into a bespoke gaming table company with financials that would even make the nerdiest of tech bro VCs step back and say it was too risky and ended up losing his entire investment outright and wasn't able to recover literally anything. There are risky investments, and then there's giving over a pile of cash on a handshake agreement and not even having legal protections to recoup some assets in the event of bankruptcy.
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# ? May 25, 2022 04:47 |
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pentyne posted:He's clearly a well educated person, can write to some level of skill, and yet at no point in his entire life ever developed a speck of self-awareness or reflection about his behavior, and thanks to his books+charity earnings he will probably never have to. This is the same Rothfuss who came up with that stupid-rear end pointless money-making scheme for Kvothe that I'd probably get a headache trying to explain because while it is dumb and simple it doesn't really make any sense why he even needs to do it.
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# ? May 25, 2022 09:53 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Dear Pat, I like this author, so I'm going to compare his writing to fantasy-heroin that only gives a brief high and utterly wrecks your life because its fundamentally unfulfiling and unnourishing. My grasp of analogy and metaphor is excellent. Oh gently caress, Denna = Denner.
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# ? May 25, 2022 09:57 |
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I like this author, so I'm going to compare his writing to fantasy-heroin that only gives a brief high and utterly wrecks your life because its fundamentally unfulfiling and unnourishing. My grasp of analogy and metaphor is excellent. I'm pretty sure he just used it because Kvothe likes comparing people to Denner Addicts. Not a single further thought was put into it.
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# ? May 25, 2022 09:59 |
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Kchama posted:This is the same Rothfuss who came up with that stupid-rear end pointless money-making scheme for Kvothe that I'd probably get a headache trying to explain because while it is dumb and simple it doesn't really make any sense why he even needs to do it. That scheme makes absolutely no sense. The setup: 1) Uncle Mayor has agreed to remotely pay Kvothe's tuition every semester. 2) Your tuition goes up if you fail your exams. 3) Kvothe wants to steal from Uncle Mayor because Kvothe is a dick. Kvothe's agreement with the school bursar: 4) Kvothe will intentionally fail his exams to drive up his own tuition (and thus the amount Uncle Mayor pays). 5) In exchange, the bursar will secretly kickback to Kvothe some of the excess tuition that wouldn't have otherwise be paid. Which... doesn't actually make any sense. This means the university's coffers are actually receiving less money than they expect to from Kvothe's tuition. Won't the discrepancy be noticed? And if the discrepancy won't be noticed, why does the bursar need to involve Kvothe at all? Why can't the bursar put his fingers in the till without caring what some snot-nosed undergrad's tuition is? Why would Kvothe expect the bursar to agree to this? The only way this scheme makes sense to me is if the bursar has an absolutely fanatical devolution to the college's profits and wants to maximize those above all else, and is willing to outright steal from the college if it results in the college netting a few more silver sickles than it would otherwise have had. This... does not seem likely to me. A plan that would have actually made some sense would have been for Kvothe to do well on his exams, but to arrange for the bursar to charge Uncle Mayor as if Kvothe had failed his exams, with Kvothe and the bursar splitting the extra. The university won't notice any discrepancies because it's still receiving as much money as it expects to based on Kvothe's tuition, and Uncle Mayor isn't likely to notice because he lives a very long journey away and the student is in on the scheme and won't tip him off. It would be a bit risky if anyone ever compared Uncle Mayor's books with the University's internal books, but it would theoretically be doable, and would be something the bursar couldn't do without a student's cooperation. But that wouldn't involve Kvothe doing well by doing poorly, which is clever and subversive and shows how smart the hero and the author and the readers are and also lets him totally dunk on Professor Snape by getting his exam questions wrong, so Rothfuss went with the nonsensical plan instead.
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# ? May 25, 2022 11:43 |
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Yep. You nailed it. Like, there's not much more to say. It's meant to make Kvothe look clever but all it does is make Rothfuss look dumb. Which, when it comes to money, he seems to be.
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# ? May 25, 2022 12:22 |
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Looking forward to reading about how Rothfuss got hospitalized because he decided that vikings just filled a barrel with water, honey, and some fruit then started drinking the results 6 months later.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Looking forward to reading about how Rothfuss got hospitalized because he decided that vikings just filled a barrel with water, honey, and some fruit then started drinking the results 6 months later. In Ye Olden Times they didn't know about yeast but they'd have wooden stirring paddles / spoons that would be impregnated with yeast from the previous batch. Anyway, also looking forward to Rothfuss dying from dysentary
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# ? May 25, 2022 15:20 |
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Didn't he also dump rocks, wormwood, and morning glory seeds in the must to make it a magical drug-infused booze? If he didn't poison himself, he definitely made something that tasted nasty as all hell and no one he subjected it to could say otherwise since I'm sure that 'only positive feedback I am a master of my art' isn't limited to writing.
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# ? May 25, 2022 16:12 |
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Dear Pat, I wrote you but still ain't writin' I left my mail, my twitter, and my handle at the SA forum I sent two post in AMA reddit, you must not've got 'em There probably was a problem with some lovely mods or somethin' Sometimes I scribble some proses, river over rocks when I jot 'em But anyways, gently caress it, what's been up? Man, how's your Kvothe? My e-girl's writing too, I'm 'bout to read a fanfic If I write a saga, guess whose gonna star it? I'ma name her Denna I read about your Wyrmwood Gaming too, I'm sorry I had a friend kill himself over some ape that got stolen I know you probably hear this every day, but I'm your biggest fan I even got the beautiful game that you did with Tak I got a room full of your books and your Cheerios, man I like the poo poo with Rick & Morty too, that poo poo was fun Anyways, I hope you get this, man, hit me back Just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan
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# ? May 25, 2022 22:58 |
Lottery of Babylon posted:That scheme makes absolutely no sense. The setup: It makes sense if you think of it as an interaction between a PC and an NPC in a D&D campaign that hinges on a successful Charisma check rather than sensical reasoning between two human beings with their own personal interests
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# ? May 25, 2022 23:15 |
For a supposed master manipulator one would think Uncle Mayor is the one guy you do not steal from, because aside from asking Kvothe to leave after he shot off his mouth like a god drat idiot Uncle Mayor has legitimately had Kvothe's back this entire time and owes his life to Kvothe. A smarter writer would have used this to set up Kvothe's ego as his downfall, but literally every time Kvothe shoots his mouth off about how great he is he is invaribly proven right. Also, Rothfuss wrote the Omadon quest in Numenera? Lol if true.
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# ? May 26, 2022 16:52 |
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I may be confusing some of the hosed up stuff in Numenara that he didn't write with the hosed up stuff he did. For anyone who doesn't know, the confirmed Rothfess stuff is the 10 year old female slave who's owner is desperately in love with her, you free her (maybe?) and then the slave child apparently falls in love with the main character? Through some plot contrivances they magically return later in the game as an adult to kiss the player. I'm paraphrasing and leaving out a lot of context but it's not like it makes it better. pentyne fucked around with this message at 17:26 on May 26, 2022 |
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:For a supposed master manipulator one would think Uncle Mayor is the one guy you do not steal from, because aside from asking Kvothe to leave after he shot off his mouth like a god drat idiot Uncle Mayor has legitimately had Kvothe's back this entire time and owes his life to Kvothe. A lot of the people Kvothe scams are people who are on his side. Though some of this is because for some reason him scamming them brings them to his side after he reveals how brilliant his scam his to them. Also that entire side trip, and thus literally all of book 2, was a quest to pay his student tuition, which is why he was exiled for a semester and then was exiled back to school when his first exile was up. This is also why the pirate adventure was skipped, because it didn't have anything to do with him paying his tuition. The fact that this (once) super beloved fantasy series is entirely about paying college tuition is depressing.
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# ? May 27, 2022 01:24 |
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The skipped pirate adventure was just there so Samus would lose her missiles and morph ball and varia suit and she would have to spend the next big section of the game exploring and regaining all her equipment and maybe some new skills to boot
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# ? May 27, 2022 01:37 |
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Kchama posted:The fact that this (once) super beloved fantasy series is entirely about paying college tuition is depressing. The real fantasy is affordable tuition.
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# ? May 27, 2022 01:52 |
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Kchama posted:A lot of the people Kvothe scams are people who are on his side. My favorite example of this is when Kvothe's current D&D party, who he's become close friends with, loot the stolen taxes from the bandits. He suggests they each take a coin from the taxes for themselves... and then secretly takes six more coins for himself, effectively robbing his "friends" of more than half their share of the spoils. He has a steady gig with the richest man in the world at that point, there's literally no reason to rob his friends except he's a complete rear end in a top hat. (but remember, the real true Edema Ruh like Kvothe would never ever steal) Kchama posted:Also that entire side trip, and thus literally all of book 2, was a quest to pay his student tuition, which is why he was exiled for a semester and then was exiled back to school when his first exile was up. Strictly speaking his exile was because he'd just had a high-profile trial by the inquisitors for Doing Magicks Wickedly (which Rothfuss skipped over writing), and the professors "suggested" he take a leave of absence to give people a few months to forget so Wizard College and the Witch-Hunting Inqusition could go back to inexplicably forgetting each other's existence. ...but also yes it was for tuition. Kchama posted:This is also why the pirate adventure was skipped, because it didn't have anything to do with him paying his tuition. Kvothe just didn't want to admit that he escaped from the pirates by admitting he was an orphan.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:My favorite example of this is when Kvothe's current D&D party, who he's become close friends with, loot the stolen taxes from the bandits. He suggests they each take a coin from the taxes for themselves... and then secretly takes six more coins for himself, effectively robbing his "friends" of more than half their share of the spoils. Did you say often?
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# ? May 27, 2022 06:49 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:My favorite example of this is when Kvothe's current D&D party, who he's become close friends with, loot the stolen taxes from the bandits. He suggests they each take a coin from the taxes for themselves... and then secretly takes six more coins for himself, effectively robbing his "friends" of more than half their share of the spoils. That was even the reason he killed the fake Edema Ruh, which he could tell were fake Edema Ruh because they stole, but also Edema Ruh who steal should be horrifically murdered!
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# ? May 27, 2022 07:57 |
Lottery of Babylon posted:
. . . wow I guess I'd swapped it in my head because I legit remembered this was the plan and not the bad one that's actually in the books. As I read the actual description I said to myself, wait, that's not right, it wasn't that dumb. I haven't read it in a long time, but even now I guess I'm giving Rothfuss more credit than he's due.
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# ? Jun 3, 2022 08:20 |
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It's funny that Kvothe gets so enraged about people thinking the not-romani are a bunch of lying cheats, then spends two books lying and cheating his way through the problems he encounters.
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Galvanik posted:It's funny that Kvothe gets so enraged about people thinking the not-romani are a bunch of lying cheats, then spends two books lying and cheating his way through the problems he encounters. I don't think at any point does anyone ever question it, not even Bast. It uh, also comes off as a little racist which is ironic because you can clearly tell how Rothfuss was trying for not-racist points with them.
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Barreft fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Jun 12, 2022 |
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Wheetabix? Seriously?
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# ? Jun 12, 2022 01:55 |
of course he owns a sword he just leans on the wall.
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# ? Jun 12, 2022 03:08 |
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lol, someone has discovered the relaxing properties of substances
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# ? Jun 13, 2022 14:50 |
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quote:In 2012, Rothfuss sold three other books to his publisher, DAW.[23] He has discussed a standalone novel, centered on a legendary figure in the world, with the working title The Tale of Laniel Young-Again.[24] The project was two-thirds complete when it was shelved to focus on The Doors of Stone.[25][26] Wait hold on, he was going to work on other novels while his main one was completely unwritten? Also of course it isn't going to be finished either.
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Kchama posted:Wait hold on, he was going to work on other novels while his main one was completely unwritten? Also of course it isn't going to be finished either. An infinite chain of back burnered books until the world economy is just paying Patrick Rothfuss not to write.
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 00:20 |
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porfiria posted:An infinite chain of back burnered books until the world economy is just paying Patrick Rothfuss not to write. To state the obvious: the dude is full of it. He still hasn't released the FIRST CHAPTER of TDoS because it isn't ready. Never mind the fact that he grifted a shitload of people to donate to some cause for it.
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Hughmoris posted:To state the obvious: the dude is full of it. Yet his prose is perfect and not a valid target for criticism.
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I searched every mention of 'moon' or 'moonlight' in KKC and I found out... nothing, really. (self.KingkillerChronicle) submitted 6 days ago * by chainsawx72 I searched for every 'moon' in the text so I could try to find anything revealing. I started to count how many times 'moon' is there, but I got to over 100 before counting even one book. We know the moon has a cycle of 72 1/3 days (but a calendar month is 44 days for some reason) which is fascinating and unexplained. We are told Iax stole part of the moon's name, so it's trapped moving from mortal sky to fae. When the moon is full, fae can enter the mortal realm easily. When the moon is dark it is in the faen realm, and men can enter the faen realm easily. Haliax is pictured under full moon, half moon, and crescent moon, and darkening the moon is listed as a possible Chandrian sign in children's stories. There is no moon during Kote's story to Chronicler perhaps setting up sending someone to the fae or another realm, and a full moon at the Blac of Drossen Tor giving the fae army the strength to cross over into the mortal realm. There was a sliver of moon when Kvothe showed Denna the Selas flowers, and again in the fae with Felurian (full moon in the mortal realm), and a few times with Auri because she only comes out when there's 'not much moon'. All of the dozens of other moon and moonlight references don't specify which moon phase. Auri gives Kvothe a key in case there is a door in the moon. I'm fascinated by how often the moon is used in reference to Felurian (lovely as the moon), Denna (also lovely as the moon), and Auri (Kvothe's little moon fae, and she says that she is.... lovely as the moon). It could mean one of them is 'the moon' or that all three are. All three of them are encountered typically at night. Denna disappears a lot, Diane is one of Denna's names, similar to Diana the moon goddess, who also happens to be part of a triad of moon goddess Diana triformis. The moon, the moonlight, and comparisons to the moon, heavily applied to many meetings between Kvothe and these women could be clues they are the moon, one of them is the moon, or it could just be misdirection to hide the true moon's nature. I kept thinking that maybe each of them was only out during a certain moon phase, but both Denna and Auri are with Kvothe when there is just a sliver of moon, and most other mentions of the moon don't specify what moon phase it is. I ran into the same problem trying to determine if Denna was only around during certain moon phases, most of the time we just aren't told, despite the many moon references. I guess it is possible one girl could be the waning moon, one the waxing moon, and Felurian of course the full moon, but it would fit better if they fit the scheme of Haliax's depiction of full, half, and sliver moon phases. Of course, there is evidence also to refute any of that theory. Denna seems to have been studying music for a very short time, and Auri studied (presumably recently) under Master Mandrag... it would be odd for 5,000 year old women to just happen to be undertaking a new hobby as general as 'music' or 'university education'. Auri and Felurian both refer to the moon in third person, implying they aren't her. Personally, I think all of the moon references with these women is intentional misdirection, but that there is an actual woman who represents 'the moon' that Iax stole.
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 13:49 |
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The moon moving from the mortal realm to the land of the fae is the one cool bit of fantasy folklore I think Rothfuss has managed. Who did he nick it from?
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 13:52 |
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"Kvothe's little moon fae"
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# ? Jun 14, 2022 17:39 |
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Big fan of "Rothfuss uses the same generic simile to describe three different female characters, therefore maybe they're the same person?? Obviously this has deep lore implications and is not just Everyone's Favorite Fantasy Prosesmith being a boring hack."
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# ? Jun 15, 2022 00:16 |
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Strom Cuzewon posted:The moon moving from the mortal realm to the land of the fae is the one cool bit of fantasy folklore I think Rothfuss has managed. It's just a generic mythology thing. Greek mythology has something similar.
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# ? Jun 15, 2022 09:07 |
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New month. Write the book, Fatrick!
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# ? Jun 13, 2024 06:39 |
he really shouldn't
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