Sham bam bamina! posted:

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pentyne posted:

He's clearly a well educated person, can write to some level of skill, and yet at no point in his entire life ever developed a speck of self-awareness or reflection about his behavior, and thanks to his books+charity earnings he will probably never have to.

The mead blog post reads like a blog post that has been precision guided to make his fans chortle with laughter, so it's possible that he's not really that dumb he's playing it up for the clicks.

Then you read about how he poured almost $1 million directly into a bespoke gaming table company with financials that would even make the nerdiest of tech bro VCs step back and say it was too risky and ended up losing his entire investment outright and wasn't able to recover literally anything. There are risky investments, and then there's giving over a pile of cash on a handshake agreement and not even having legal protections to recoup some assets in the event of bankruptcy.

Sham bam bamina! posted:

Dear Pat,

I read TNOTW over ten years ago when one of my best friends randomly gifted it to me. The day WMF came out, he bought it and let me borrow it because he knew I’d finish it in a day given my passion for your work.

Since then, I’ve encouraged countless friends, strangers, and acquaintances to seek out your stories. I’ve gone through the intermittent cycles of googling “the doors of stone” hoping I’ll finally get to learn the answers to the many mysteries in your stories. I’ve read the many interesting fan theories posted in this forum over the years, and I’ve speculated with my friends about Denna’s story and the truth about Lanre. I’ve bought your first two books in multiple formats. I still hope I get to read DOS one day.

But I want you to know, even if I never get the pleasure of reading another one of your works, I truly appreciate what you’ve already accomplished. King killer is the finest piece of writing I’ve ever encountered, and I’ve read my fair share of books at this point.

I am sad that so many fans have grown bitter and resentful towards you over the years. I understand their frustration. Your work is incomparable. They are Denner Resin addicts eager for another taste of your lyrical prose and narrative genius.

I truly wish we could, at long last, achieve some sort of rapprochement between Pat and his fans on Reddit. I wish Pat could temper his frustration with his fans’…uhhh… eagerness—it’s his fault, ultimately, for writing something so good that people are still clamoring for more over a decade later. I wish our community could understand that Pat, like all of us, is a human being. And that the ever rising tide of vitriol towards Pat does nothing to advance their cause or the well being of a man whose ideas and creative genius they so obviously admire.

I hope Pat and all of KkC fandom has a happy, healthy, and wonderful summer (assuming you live northern hemisphere). I’ll be back in a few months to read the latest theories and DOS gripes. Until then, cheers!

Sincerely,

A longtime KKC fan and very depressed law student

Strom Cuzewon posted:

I like this author, so I'm going to compare his writing to fantasy-heroin that only gives a brief high and utterly wrecks your life because its fundamentally unfulfiling and unnourishing. My grasp of analogy and metaphor is excellent.

Oh gently caress, Denna = Denner.

Kchama posted:

This is the same Rothfuss who came up with that stupid-rear end pointless money-making scheme for Kvothe that I'd probably get a headache trying to explain because while it is dumb and simple it doesn't really make any sense why he even needs to do it.

Evil Fluffy posted:

Looking forward to reading about how Rothfuss got hospitalized because he decided that vikings just filled a barrel with water, honey, and some fruit then started drinking the results 6 months later.

Lottery of Babylon posted:

That scheme makes absolutely no sense. The setup:

1) Uncle Mayor has agreed to remotely pay Kvothe's tuition every semester.
2) Your tuition goes up if you fail your exams.
3) Kvothe wants to steal from Uncle Mayor because Kvothe is a dick.

Kvothe's agreement with the school bursar:

4) Kvothe will intentionally fail his exams to drive up his own tuition (and thus the amount Uncle Mayor pays).
5) In exchange, the bursar will secretly kickback to Kvothe some of the excess tuition that wouldn't have otherwise be paid.

Which... doesn't actually make any sense. This means the university's coffers are actually receiving less money than they expect to from Kvothe's tuition. Won't the discrepancy be noticed? And if the discrepancy won't be noticed, why does the bursar need to involve Kvothe at all? Why can't the bursar put his fingers in the till without caring what some snot-nosed undergrad's tuition is? Why would Kvothe expect the bursar to agree to this?

The only way this scheme makes sense to me is if the bursar has an absolutely fanatical devolution to the college's profits and wants to maximize those above all else, and is willing to outright steal from the college if it results in the college netting a few more silver sickles than it would otherwise have had. This... does not seem likely to me.

A plan that would have actually made some sense would have been for Kvothe to do well on his exams, but to arrange for the bursar to charge Uncle Mayor as if Kvothe had failed his exams, with Kvothe and the bursar splitting the extra. The university won't notice any discrepancies because it's still receiving as much money as it expects to based on Kvothe's tuition, and Uncle Mayor isn't likely to notice because he lives a very long journey away and the student is in on the scheme and won't tip him off. It would be a bit risky if anyone ever compared Uncle Mayor's books with the University's internal books, but it would theoretically be doable, and would be something the bursar couldn't do without a student's cooperation.

But that wouldn't involve Kvothe doing well by doing poorly, which is clever and subversive and shows how smart the hero and the author and the readers are and also lets him totally dunk on Professor Snape by getting his exam questions wrong, so Rothfuss went with the nonsensical plan instead.

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

For a supposed master manipulator one would think Uncle Mayor is the one guy you do not steal from, because aside from asking Kvothe to leave after he shot off his mouth like a god drat idiot Uncle Mayor has legitimately had Kvothe's back this entire time and owes his life to Kvothe.

A smarter writer would have used this to set up Kvothe's ego as his downfall, but literally every time Kvothe shoots his mouth off about how great he is he is invaribly proven right.

Also, Rothfuss wrote the Omadon quest in Numenera? Lol if true.

Kchama posted:

The fact that this (once) super beloved fantasy series is entirely about paying college tuition is depressing.

Kchama posted:

A lot of the people Kvothe scams are people who are on his side.

Kchama posted:

Also that entire side trip, and thus literally all of book 2, was a quest to pay his student tuition, which is why he was exiled for a semester and then was exiled back to school when his first exile was up.

Kchama posted:

This is also why the pirate adventure was skipped, because it didn't have anything to do with him paying his tuition.

Lottery of Babylon posted:

My favorite example of this is when Kvothe's current D&D party, who he's become close friends with, loot the stolen taxes from the bandits. He suggests they each take a coin from the taxes for themselves... and then secretly takes six more coins for himself, effectively robbing his "friends" of more than half their share of the spoils.

He has a steady gig with the richest man in the world at that point, there's literally no reason to rob his friends except he's a complete rear end in a top hat.

(but remember, the real true Edema Ruh like Kvothe would never ever steal)

Strictly speaking his exile was because he'd just had a high-profile trial by the inquisitors for Doing Magicks Wickedly (which Rothfuss skipped over writing), and the professors "suggested" he take a leave of absence to give people a few months to forget so Wizard College and the Witch-Hunting Inqusition could go back to inexplicably forgetting each other's existence.

...but also yes it was for tuition.

Kvothe just didn't want to admit that he escaped from the pirates by admitting he was an orphan.

Lottery of Babylon posted:

My favorite example of this is when Kvothe's current D&D party, who he's become close friends with, loot the stolen taxes from the bandits. He suggests they each take a coin from the taxes for themselves... and then secretly takes six more coins for himself, effectively robbing his "friends" of more than half their share of the spoils.

He has a steady gig with the richest man in the world at that point, there's literally no reason to rob his friends except he's a complete rear end in a top hat.

(but remember, the real true Edema Ruh like Kvothe would never ever steal)

Lottery of Babylon posted:

A plan that would have actually made some sense would have been for Kvothe to do well on his exams, but to arrange for the bursar to charge Uncle Mayor as if Kvothe had failed his exams, with Kvothe and the bursar splitting the extra. The university won't notice any discrepancies because it's still receiving as much money as it expects to based on Kvothe's tuition, and Uncle Mayor isn't likely to notice because he lives a very long journey away and the student is in on the scheme and won't tip him off. It would be a bit risky if anyone ever compared Uncle Mayor's books with the University's internal books, but it would theoretically be doable, and would be something the bursar couldn't do without a student's cooperation.

But that wouldn't involve Kvothe doing well by doing poorly, which is clever and subversive and shows how smart the hero and the author and the readers are and also lets him totally dunk on Professor Snape by getting his exam questions wrong, so Rothfuss went with the nonsensical plan instead.

Galvanik posted:

It's funny that Kvothe gets so enraged about people thinking the not-romani are a bunch of lying cheats, then spends two books lying and cheating his way through the problems he encounters.

Barreft posted:

quote:

In 2012, Rothfuss sold three other books to his publisher, DAW.[23] He has discussed a standalone novel, centered on a legendary figure in the world, with the working title The Tale of Laniel Young-Again.[24] The project was two-thirds complete when it was shelved to focus on The Doors of Stone.[25][26]

Kchama posted:

Wait hold on, he was going to work on other novels while his main one was completely unwritten? Also of course it isn't going to be finished either.

porfiria posted:

An infinite chain of back burnered books until the world economy is just paying Patrick Rothfuss not to write.

Hughmoris posted:

To state the obvious: the dude is full of it.

He still hasn't released the FIRST CHAPTER of TDoS because it isn't ready. Never mind the fact that he grifted a shitload of people to donate to some cause for it.

Strom Cuzewon posted:

The moon moving from the mortal realm to the land of the fae is the one cool bit of fantasy folklore I think Rothfuss has managed.

Who did he nick it from?