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EorayMel posted:That is why I throw away the ham sandwich (preferably in Gaston's face) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ
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sebmojo posted:in a sense when you eat a burger you are becoming a cow a little at a time The Cow of Theseus
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I'm going through a second run since I never played the Final Cut content. Pleasantly pleased that a Physical run still ends up thoroughly deranged. Two questions though: Rhetoric and Drama can be pretty insane too. Encyclopedia isn’t insane per se but it’s not always helpful and often in very funny ways. Visual calculus is really the only “boring” one
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Jun 8, 2022 17:18
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EorayMel posted:That is why I throw away the ham sandwich (preferably in Gaston's face) God, there's so much in this game. I never came across the pie and I've finished the game at least three times.
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Big Mouth Billy Basshole posted:I never came across the pie 
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Encyclopedia rules. If you don't want to know useless facts that are of no help to anyone I don't want to know you.
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uPen posted:Encyclopedia rules. If you don't want to know useless facts that are of no help to anyone I don't want to know you. You: What's a "contact microphone"? Acele: A contact mic records sounds from inside things. Like this ice. Encyclopedia: Your mangled brain would like you to know that there is a boxer called Contact Mike. You: Yeah? Any news on my wife's name? How about my mother? Encyclopedia: Nope. You're welcome.
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I wonder how that Contact Mike joke plays when translated in languages with very different sounding words for contact, microphone, and/or may not have the name Mike in common use.
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Caufman posted:I wonder how that Contact Mike joke plays when translated in languages with very different sounding words for contact, microphone, and/or may not have the name Mike in common use. The Contact Mike joke works in many different languages, just like Contact Mike worked many different opponents in his journey to become the greatest boxer that history has ever known.
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Pattonesque posted:You: What's a "contact microphone"? The perfect encapsulation of Encyclopaedia as a skill and possibly the best exemplar of any skill in the game.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:The Contact Mike joke works in many different languages, just like Contact Mike worked many different opponents in his journey to become the greatest boxer that history has ever known. 
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Jun 9, 2022 02:41
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Where the hell does one get that pie?
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Bar Ran Dun posted:If you eat a burger the cholesterol might stick stick around in your arteries. Micro nutrients above RDA can mitigate ADHD. What you eat could affect your gut micro biome and could affect your mood and general disposition. Lol none of that is true. It makes you into a cow.
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Samovar posted:Where the hell does one get that pie? Inquiring minds would like to know … so that I can throw it on the ground 
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From what I understand, you need to pass specific high Authority and Endurance checks AND fail a low Conceptualization one when you first talk to'em, which unlocks the options to ask him about his job, which turns out to be a pie delivery man, allowing you to ask him to deliver one for you, which you can then get when you meet him later in Whirling-In-Rags. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlWAEvK8h-U
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Cpt_Obvious posted:The Contact Mike joke works in many different languages, just like Contact Mike worked many different opponents in his journey to become the greatest boxer that history has ever known. Contact Mike overcame 5000 to 1 odds
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Caufman posted:I wonder how that Contact Mike joke plays when translated in languages with very different sounding words for contact, microphone, and/or may not have the name Mike in common use. I’ve wondered about this kind of thing in general. how do translators deal with this when the structure of a game’s dialogue is built around the existence of a language-specific wordplay/idiom/whatever? You probably can’t just come up with something similarly clever in another language because there are more lines and dialogue options in the game’s dialogue tree built around the wordplay in that one language.
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:I’ve wondered about this kind of thing in general. how do translators deal with this when the structure of a game’s dialogue is built around the existence of a language-specific wordplay/idiom/whatever? You probably can’t just come up with something similarly clever in another language because there are more lines and dialogue options in the game’s dialogue tree built around the wordplay in that one language. Reminds me of the "pizza/visa" substory from Yakuza Zero, though apparently it's a similar pun in both English & Japanese. No idea how that quest works in other languages
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:I’ve wondered about this kind of thing in general. how do translators deal with this when the structure of a game’s dialogue is built around the existence of a language-specific wordplay/idiom/whatever? You probably can’t just come up with something similarly clever in another language because there are more lines and dialogue options in the game’s dialogue tree built around the wordplay in that one language. there's a Finnish webcomic that at least two different Finns post in at least two different comics threads. the punchline is generally (always?) a pun, and whoever is posting them has been able to come up with a suitable English-language pun for enough of them that the comics get posted regularly. not at all the same thing, but I'm surprised at how often something works given that the languages are entirely unrelated.
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The best example is Asterix. Cover to cover puns, translated into over 100 languages.
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christmas boots posted:Rhetoric and Drama can be pretty insane too. Encyclopedia isn’t insane per se but it’s not always helpful and often in very funny ways. Visual calculus is really the only “boring” one Volition is outraged at this slander.
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Josef bugman posted:Volition is outraged at this slander. I'm only talking about the INT skills there. Believe me if we're opening this to the whole crew of insane and sane skills Electrochemistry and Volition would have been the first ones I mentioned.
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Party Boat posted:The best example is Asterix. Cover to cover puns, translated into over 100 languages.
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Yeah, Volition insists they're boring, but they get into a lot of fights with Harry and the other skills because Volition is really a strong and contrarian (to the rest of the gang's) personality. I remember Visual Calculus staying largely above the fray. Perception also plays it pretty plain and straight-forward, but they do get extremely mad when Harry sniffs the toileted and trashed ledger
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Volition is the skill that tells you not to do any of the fun things. But it's also the skill that will pick you up, dust you off, and remind you that you're not defeated yet. It will tell you not to do the stupid thing because you'll look like a fool, but to do the foolish and impossible thing precisely because it's impossible
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:I’ve wondered about this kind of thing in general. how do translators deal with this when the structure of a game’s dialogue is built around the existence of a language-specific wordplay/idiom/whatever? You probably can’t just come up with something similarly clever in another language because there are more lines and dialogue options in the game’s dialogue tree built around the wordplay in that one language. Basically, by splitting out the "necessary" parts and building a new one from there if needed. If it's impossible, looking for other opportunities to do something like it nearby in the same character's dialog; this is very easy here where it's just Encyclopedia getting some characterization by randomly piping up about a mishearing and you can make it mishear anything, but if you had to translate this hypothetical pun existing in Chinese about a 微音器 "weiyinqi 'quiet sound device'" and a boxer with the family name Wei who your audience wouldn't recognize, with the image of a boxer flashing onscreen to limit options, you might end up with a Visual Calculus/Encyclopedia duo about 'the ice slowly melting in the May weather'. "Contact mic" is also a pretty easy one, since almost all languages have a local phonetic approximation of "microphone" as at least a valid variant, Mike Tyson's world-famous, and any language that took the ι in Greek μικρός as the i in "kit" or the i in "king" rather than the i in "price" which might normally obscure things probably treated the ι in Μιχαήλ the same way.
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Caufman posted:Yeah, Volition insists they're boring, but they get into a lot of fights with Harry and the other skills because Volition is really a strong and contrarian (to the rest of the gang's) personality. I remember Visual Calculus staying largely above the fray. Perception also plays it pretty plain and straight-forward, but they do get extremely mad when Harry sniffs the toileted and trashed ledger  This is the funniest moment in the game IMO
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Bismack Billabongo posted:
I also enjoy when Rhetoric tells you that you have now developed the ability to sniff out communists, to which Perception (Smell) goes "no, what. no that's not a thing. harry that's not real i can't do that."
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I'd love an effortful Japanese dub just to hear some prolific anime voice actors have to do some of these lines
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Fabricated posted:I'd love an effortful Japanese dub just to hear some prolific anime voice actors have to do some of these lines A Japanese localization has been announced for August. I'm not sure if it will be voiced or not though.
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Get Takehito Koyasu for Harry, he's the only person qualified to that much insane monologuing
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Ugh, I just picked up the game again and ran into the exact issue I did the first time which was dicking around for about 6 hours into day 1 and then dying of a heart attack because I dumped Physique to 1 and kept trying to do dumb stuff. I really wish two of the overarching stats weren't tied to hit-point totals.
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OK? So you have a few options. 1. do a higher stat 2. buy medicine and use it to not die. 3. quit again
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Low on Morale? Put points into Volition!
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What skills are associated with the politics of the game. Whilst I know that Rhetoric is the one used for Communism, I think that Volition may have a part to play in it
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Jun 9, 2022 23:35
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Savior Faire for Ultraliberals Empathy is Moralism
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Josef bugman posted:What skills are associated with the politics of the game. Whilst I know that Rhetoric is the one used for Communism, I think that Volition may have a part to play in it Endurance is Fascist
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Empathy is moralist and savoire faire is ultralib. Efb
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