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also at least for now the deck hasn't crashed since that first night so, knock on wood, but it seems like that was a fluke crash that just happened to very closely resemble the crashes i had on my defective unit. (i guess it's also possible that the ryzen chip is unstable on this one as well but not AS unstable) one big difference between the units is that the GPU was frequently hitting 100% load on the defective deck and it's not been that way with the games i've played on the current one (crystal project for example has been only a 30% GPU load). i'm gonna stick to Verified games only for now. so my current playlist is Crystal Project as my primary game, and then: Beyond Blue, Calico, Little Misfortune, Katana Zero, Everhood, River City Girls, The Vagrant, Chronicon, House Flipper, Quest Hunter, Filament, and Aground.
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I‘ve joined the Steam Deck purchasers club.  Have always been Q2 but thought it was some kind of error since i reserved it a couple days after and everyone here is like „i reserved at 8 minutes and got q3 2045“... so i didn‘t expect it and almost ignored the email thinking someone was tryna phish me hahaha! Very excited to play Binding of Isaac while i poo poo, truly a golden age
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My Deck supposedly arrives tomorrow. Is there a good “getting started” type guide or video out there? Or is it not really necessary?
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Anno posted:My Deck supposedly arrives tomorrow. Is there a good “getting started” type guide or video out there? Or is it not really necessary? Nah sign in, let it update, and go hog wild. The one tip I’ll throw out is when you’re in a game if you press the steam button then right on the d-pad twice it’ll take you to the controller / button settings where you can then go and change your bindings or even better use community bindings that already set things up the way you probably want. This even works for non steam games since I can be playing a game in an emulator and somehow there’s community bindings available specifically for them. It owns.
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If you already have steam and just want to play steam games, I don't think any instruction is necessary.
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veni veni veni posted:Just messing with this for the first time. 2 questions 1. I don't recall stream controller configuration letting you do inversion, so you're going to have to do that in game I guess? Set the trackpad to emulate a mouse and invert joystick only in the game, I mean. 2. Yes. Turn on per-game config too. Some games can't get to 40fps without giving up too much in resolution or graphical quality, those I run at 30fps/60hz. Elden Ring for example runs beautifully at 30/60 and it's not worth the compromises needed for 40/40 though the input lag improvement is noticeable.
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Chas McGill posted:If you already have steam and just want to play steam games, I don't think any instruction is necessary. Yeah I’m sure it’s pretty straight forward. Just wasn’t sure if there was some setting that’s off be default and should really be on or something like that.
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Anno posted:Yeah I’m sure it’s pretty straight forward. Just wasn’t sure if there was some setting that’s off be default and should really be on or something like that. The one thing I remember doing at the start was disabling the WiFi power saving as I wasn't getting a good signal/occasionally disconnecting. But I don't know if that's still a problem/related to my router.
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Vampire Survivors hung on me last night. Completely froze for about 10 seconds, screen went black, and then came back completely normal. First time I've had something like that happen. This was at like 25 minutes into a run and things were pretty nuts.
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How hard is it to put Nexus mods onto steam games? I feel like the Linux part messes with things
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jokes posted:How hard is it to put Nexus mods onto steam games? I feel like the Linux part messes with things Surely depends on the mod but I've gotten a few simple ones working easily
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i hope valve doesn't lose interest in the deck (as they have a tendency to do with their projects) it'd be cool to buy an up-to-date deck every 3-4 years with better hardware
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I like how if w friend invited me to a game I can't click the notification to auto join. It is in the notification log but if you click that it just takes you to the message and you have to click in that way. Absurd. Also, getting to a games store page from your library shouldn't be as many clicks as it is. I love this thing but definitely some weird design choices.
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shrike82 posted:i hope valve doesn't lose interest in the deck (as they have a tendency to do with their projects) Do they for hardware? I think they’ve supported the poo poo out of their hardware and hardware-adjacent software like SteamOS, Link and Input. The Steam Link, which isn’t even production anymore, just got a firmware update like yesterday. This isn’t a project they can just change to a software solution down the road so I think it’ll be fine.
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Harminoff posted:I like how if w friend invited me to a game I can't click the notification to auto join. It is in the notification log but if you click that it just takes you to the message and you have to click in that way. Absurd. the UI/OS is where a lot of the remaining kinks to work out are
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The 7th Guest posted:until a recent update, if you backed out of a game's page, it almost never returned you to the same game in the library, lol Oh for sure. On PC whenever I'd check out new releases I'd just open them in a new tab as navigating back and forth was impossible. Frustrating how they miss some simple stuff like that.
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Anno posted:Do they for hardware? I think they’ve supported the poo poo out of their hardware and hardware-adjacent software like SteamOS, Link and Input. The Steam Link, which isn’t even production anymore, just got a firmware update like yesterday. This isn’t a project they can just change to a software solution down the road so I think it’ll be fine. Steam Link is still a going concern for them, just as an app for other devices which is basically the same software as runs on the actual Steam Link hardware. My expectation is there probably isn't going to be a Deck 2, and they'll just make SteamOS available to anyone making a handheld PC.
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What? They won’t make a steam deck 2? Based on what? They have pre-orders still outstanding to the end of the year. Reviews are extremely positive, Gaben said he was surprised people were willing to spend more money on a more premium version/product, and they are still doing really great and encouraging updates. They partnered with ifixit for repairs and replacement parts where, of course, all the parts are sold out. In every situation demand for their product has exceedingly outstripped supply, for a year plus. Their Steam Link and Steam Controller were sold and supported for about a thousand years beyond their useful life. And to top it all off, with more juice and support these stupid things could straight up replace most gaming pcs and gaming laptops. In what universe does that translate to “nope, they’re done”. Steam OS doesn’t seem like a real moneymaker compared to the Deck, which is lightning in a bottle that the internet has been clamoring for for years after the switch came out. jokes fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jun 10, 2022 |
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Is it just me or do RE Engine games look kind of bad on this thing? I've been loving around with the settings for RE2 and the game runs fine and everything but it looks kind of washed out and blurry even when I bump up the quality on everything it doesn't seem to change anything. I dunno maybe it's just something about the game that doesn't translate well to a small screen. Game plays fine just doesn't look all that purdy which is weird cause it's such a nice looking game normally. Everything else I have tried runs'looks great. This thing rocks.
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Historical pattern recognition of Valve hardware, they tend to use their hardware to launch a more widely used piece of software (Steam Link, SteamVR, possibly SteamOS now). If they did do a second gen Steam Deck great but it'd be the first piece of hardware they've ever made a second generation of. Plus any power boost to it would be dependant on AMD's development of their integrated graphics, which isn't generally an area that sees a lot of rapid development as much as I'd love for that to change. Also the Deck isn't a money maker, Steam is the money maker. Making SteamOS the default OS for handheld PCs means further entrenching Steam as the default storefront for PC games which is what makes Valve money.
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I feel like it’s an easier sell to have people rely on the Steam devices than on Steam OS because there are reasons to have computers that aren’t video games, and Steam OS doesn’t double as “video games OS” and “porn/work OS” like Windows.
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I don't really think there's been a historical precedent for something like the Steam Deck from Valve.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Nah sign in, let it update, and go hog wild. The one tip I’ll throw out is when you’re in a game if you press the steam button then right on the d-pad twice it’ll take you to the controller / button settings where you can then go and change your bindings or even better use community bindings that already set things up the way you probably want. It uses the non-steam game name for the community configs. For example, I had one set to "Minecraft Java" and it had completely different configs when I renamed it "Minecraft" and checked. So if you're ever struggling for a good config, try some other naming conventions and you might be able to pull something up. I know I've done that once or twice in the past, I think for the epic version of Civ VI when I wanted to play with steam controller.
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jokes posted:In what universe does that translate to “nope, they’re done”. Steam OS doesn’t seem like a real moneymaker compared to the Deck, which is lightning in a bottle that the internet has been clamoring for for years after the switch came out. Well, for starters they are probably ages away from making a profit on the Deck. And I can see a universe where they aren't done with the Deck, but instead they farm out the hardware. I mean, the Valve Index has also spent most of its life in a "Waitlist to buy" mode and they aren't exactly sprinting to make an Index 2. Kaddish posted:I don't really think there's been a historical precedent for something like the Steam Deck from Valve. The Index is pretty close.
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Lockback posted:Well, for starters they are probably ages away from making a prophet on the Deck. And I can see a universe where they aren't done with the Deck, but instead they farm out the hardware. poo poo, yeah it is.
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Only Valve knows, but if The Deck existing = more Steam sales then they will absolutely see the Deck as a money maker even if technically it's more of a loss leader. I know I've personally bought games I wouldn't normally because of the Deck. Valve being a privately-held entity helps tremendously in how they operate as they do not have share holders to make excuses to. I also use my Index on the regular and am really hard into VR, so I would hope Valve continues to iterate on their VR hardware as the Index is the best headset this side of Facebook. The Deck existing at all has some cool as hell implications for Valve's rumored next VR hardware set even.
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Yeah but VR is loving dumb and you can’t play elden ring on the $1000 VR device
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Kaddish posted:I don't really think there's been a historical precedent for something like the Steam Deck from Valve. If nothing else it's got way less of a niche appeal than anything else they've done. Clearly the demand is insane and they'll probably be able to sell as many as they can manufacture for the foreseeable future. It's also a crazy good vehicle to sell steam as a platform to a new audience and increase attachment from existing users.
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jokes posted:Yeah but VR is loving dumb and you can’t play elden ring on the $1000 VR device https://www.roadtovr.com/elden-ring-vr-mod-luke-ross/ You are mistaken so hard. PC VR rules and reminds me of the wonderful days of Half-Life mods, just a ton of insane and mostly garbage stuff.
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To be maidenless in VR: the future
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jokes posted:Yeah but VR is loving dumb and you can’t play elden ring on the $1000 VR device Or can you? https://youtu.be/gaCK3fJ8N8A
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VR loving rules, but I don't think the most prohibitively expensive VR HMD on the market is even remotely comparable to a fully portable gaming PC priced at 1/3rd of it's competitors
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veni veni veni posted:VR loving rules, but I don't think the most prohibitively expensive VR HMD on the market is even remotely comparable to a fully portable gaming PC priced at 1/3rd of it's competitors It isn't, but does show you where Valve's minds are when it comes to hardware. Index made them go "oh, quality, ok" even if they knew that the Index itself wasn't ever going to make up for the cost poured into research, design and manufacture. I'm positive Half-Life Alyx has not made a profit and never will, yet they happily did it anyway because they wanted to. Index is nowhere near the most expensive headset either, but it is up there. The Deck is an actual, real hit in a way that nothing else Valve has made before and looks to finally made inroads to Windows dominance in the PC space. I wonder how many people are using the Deck don't know it's Linux, and for those that do even think about it. Valve has been chasing that for so, so long.
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The 7th Guest posted:until a recent update, if you backed out of a game's page, it almost never returned you to the same game in the library, lol I'm curious though if they actually get to make complete overhaul at some point. This is a slightly better derivation from bp but still with a lot of bad ui flow (or rather lack of it) which makes browsing everything beyond fixed libraries of stuff you know a pain.
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veni veni veni posted:VR loving rules, but I don't think the most prohibitively expensive VR HMD on the market is even remotely comparable to a fully portable gaming PC priced at 1/3rd of it's competitors The point is that it's been mostly sold out throughout it's life and the market gobbled it up, but Valve is taking that success to try to push they ecosystem to other manufacturers, not to make a new iteration. Now the Deck is different but it's not ridiculous to consider that "Here's how you do it, now go make your own, open-market" may be the route they take.
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Lockback posted:The point is that it's been mostly sold out throughout it's life and the market gobbled it up, but Valve is taking that success to try to push they ecosystem to other manufacturers, not to make a new iteration. Now the Deck is different but it's not ridiculous to consider that "Here's how you do it, now go make your own, open-market" may be the route they take. Is any of that true of the index though? It's been readily available to order for years now, Valve still makes them, the rest of the VR space has seemed to have mostly shifted towards much cheaper HMDs that require less powerful, or no extra hardware.
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veni veni veni posted:Is any of that true of the index though? It's been readily available to order for years now, Valve still makes them, the rest of the VR space has seemed to have mostly shifted towards much cheaper HMDs that require less powerful, or no extra hardware. Index released 3 years ago, it was waitlisted for like 6+ months, available for a while, then sold out again during Covid for at least a year. It's probably been waitlisted for over half it's life. Similarly, I expect the Deck will be largely available after 9-12 months or earlier too. And the Deck will ship larger numbers, but either way the idea that "It's sold out so of course they will still make hardware" isn't a sure thing. Of course Valve could announce an Index 2 tomorrow and move a lot more like a hardware company.
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Lockback posted:Index released 3 years ago, it was waitlisted for like 6+ months, available for a while, then sold out again during Covid for at least a year. It's probably been waitlisted for over half it's life. I don't think you are totally wrong or anything. Valve clearly makes hardware to push steam forward as a platform and not to compete with other hardware manufacturers. I think the future of the steam deck really is just going to boil down to whatever they think is going to best for steam. Whether it's continuing to manufacture them long term, release new models etc. or let other manufacturers start competing that space seems pretty up in the air. I feel like if the demand stays high and this isn't just a new toy fomo phenomenon they'll have good reason to just continue to make the hardware. Fwiw Gabe did say they plan on steam deck being a long term thing, ymmv on how much stock you'd put into that though.
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