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TGLT posted:I mean the photos that are supposedly from that escort service are from ExploreTalent and otherwise they're just relying on outsourced text messages, so probably not. Considering how hard they seem to be focused on culture war poo poo my initial assumption is they're trying to do the Lincoln Project thing of fundraising off centrists while challenging absolutely nothing, but I also won't have the chance to actually look into their PAC's leadership until later so I'm happy to be wrong here
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snorch posted:Signs point to “yes”. Unless something substantial comes out besides a couple of photos, I am going to say this is all "too good to be true" bullshit catering to libs. I might believe the escort and the abortions (and even if, her only sin here is hypocrisy, not being a sex worker or having an abortion), but the stuff about her being pimped by the Kochs and having Ted Cruz as a sugar daddy is way too farfetched.
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Young Freud posted:Unless something substantial comes out besides a couple of photos, I am going to say this is all "too good to be true" bullshit catering to libs. I might believe the escort and the abortions (and even if, her only sin here is hypocrisy, not being a sex worker or having an abortion), but the stuff about her being pimped by the Kochs and having Ted Cruz as a sugar daddy is way too farfetched. Yeah -- she doesn't look anything like Cory Chase!
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Young Freud posted:but the stuff about her being pimped by the Kochs and having Ted Cruz as a sugar daddy is way too farfetched. Yeah we know Cruz prefers blondes.
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South Florida Synagogue is suing over the abortion restriction laws being 'against their freedom of religion' Here's hoping this works: https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1536872503066304512?s=20&t=uRAL6SjlPKt1HOL5sGN2Aw
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snorch posted:Signs point to “yes”. Can we please have the rule against posting/linking rando twitter accounts reinstated? This is absolute garbage..... Kalit fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Jun 15, 2022 |
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CommieGIR posted:South Florida Synagogue is suing over the abortion restriction laws being 'against their freedom of religion' i think we'll see pretty quickly which part of our 'judeo-christian' values takes precedence when they conflict
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CommieGIR posted:South Florida Synagogue is suing over the abortion restriction laws being 'against their freedom of religion' A religion that requires abortions is not pro-choice, it's just anti-autonomy in the other direction.
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CommieGIR posted:South Florida Synagogue is suing over the abortion restriction laws being 'against their freedom of religion' It won't. It's a stunt. The Supreme Court already ruled on this in the 80's with the Oregon v. Smith case. Generally applicable laws that don't target a specific religion don't violate the free exercise clause.
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PeterCat posted:A religion that requires abortions is not pro-choice, it's just anti-autonomy in the other direction. Does it require abortions? Are they mandated?
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Epic High Five posted:Does it require abortions? Are they mandated? Yes, apparently it's religiously mandatory for a woman to have an abortion when that woman desires and/or needs one. Seems top ideal to me, that's exactly when abortions should be both available and encouraged.
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PT6A posted:Yes, apparently it's religiously mandatory for a woman to have an abortion when that woman desires and/or needs one. That's fine but it's not the same thing as "required" as was described so I just wanted to get some clarification on the subject
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PeterCat posted:A religion that requires abortions is not pro-choice, it's just anti-autonomy in the other direction. You are remarkably stupid (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Epic High Five posted:Does it require abortions? Are they mandated? From the Tweet: "“In Jewish law, abortion is required if necessary to protect the health, mental or physical well-being of the woman."" But Jewish law also says that God requires you to amputate part of your infant son's genitals. Where is the "bodily autonomy" there? PeterCat fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Jun 15, 2022 |
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PeterCat posted:From the Tweet: "“In Jewish law, abortion is required if necessary to protect the health, mental or physical well-being of the woman."" Seems like you're trying to conflate two different things here, not sure how linking the two things advances the discussion at all. Please feel free to create a thread on circumsicion if you like but that isnt what is being discussed here any more than the fact that it's as protestant a tradition for some as messianic cannibalism is for others. Isnt it funny what a worst interpretation of anything can be stretched to include
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PeterCat posted:From the Tweet: "“In Jewish law, abortion is required if necessary to protect the health, mental or physical well-being of the woman."" Did you somehow miss the two words that follow "required"?
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I just want to see the regression fusion hate of anti(women) abortion stuff and antisemitism/no true scotsman
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Kalit posted:Can we please have the rule against posting/linking rando twitter accounts reinstated? This is absolute garbage..... I'm not really buying this story about Boebert but for what it's worth the same people that buried Madison Cawthorne are the ones that dug up this story. I believe they are called the "Muckraker PAC".
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Charliegrs posted:I'm not really buying this story about Boebert but for what it's worth the same people that buried Madison Cawthorne are the ones that dug up this story. I believe they are called the "Muckraker PAC". Especially because there's already multiple true and verified gross-as-gently caress stories about Boebert that have been known for a while now. Like how her husband who's nearly 10 years her senior is a registered sex offender because he whipped off his pants and flashed his dick at a group of underaged girls at a bowling alley while he was on a date with her (and she was 17 herself at the time). A story like that coming out would have been enough to instantly kill a political career back before Escalator Day happened.
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Nobody buried Madison Cawthorn except the GOP when he went into business for himself. If he hadn't gone out of his way to make an enemy of Thom Tillis he'd probably still be around.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Nobody buried Madison Cawthorn except the GOP when he went into business for himself. If he hadn't gone out of his way to make an enemy of Thom Tillis he'd probably still be around. Well yeah, the PAC that buried Cawthorne is run by the GOP obviously. And they went after him after his "Coke and orgies" statement on that radio show.
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Jaxyon posted:If you wanted detailed ideas of how to fix the myriad different non-profits including disputes, financing, and org structure: It really sounds like an inability to understand the actual problems with progressive orgs because they're ultimately the same problems with liberal ones; the culture of a reverence for hierarchy and personal ambition means you end up with everyone in charge pursuing their own prestige, enrichment and arbitrary personal goals at the expense of the overall organisational ones, and no one, especially in mainstream media, is even able to recognise this is a problem, let alone call it out. After all, that's what you're supposed to do. Make that money, Obama. The problems of infighting and factionalism are invented and repeated because they are useful to distract from that and to perpetuate the stereotypes used to dismiss the left. The problem is they're not submissive enough to their betters, they keep letting their morals and priorities get in the way of the smooth running of the organisation, whining about things like 'we're not actually doing any of the things we're supposed to do'. COINTELPRO as functioning is basically indistinguishable from corporate America, and probably for many of the same reasons- and the culture is perpetuated to make that culture normalised, and any pushback is irrational, dangerous and must be shut down immediately.
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Cawthorn personally attacked Thom Thillis to his face and the press, repeatedly. Tillis went home, unlocked his war chest, and promptly drowned Cawthorn in a torrent of money.
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Narcissus1916 posted:Cawthorn personally attacked Thom Thillis to his face and the press, repeatedly. Tillis went home, unlocked his war chest, and promptly drowned Cawthorn in a torrent of money. Nothing like some good old fashion blue-on-blue action between fascist pricks. My only regret was that Cawthorn wasn't able to successfully return the favor.
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"I saw Boebert and Senator Cruz in the closet making an abortion, and the abortion looked at me." Yes, this is a political masterstroke
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The thing I find unbelievable about all of this is that somehow she was down low enough to have sex with Ted Cruz. That's just a bridge too far, and I won't accept that anyone has ever done so for any amount of money.
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Narcissus1916 posted:Cawthorn personally attacked Thom Thillis to his face and the press, repeatedly. Tillis went home, unlocked his war chest, and promptly drowned Cawthorn in a torrent of money. Besides getting elected it’s the only thing tillis has ever accomplished.
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SC result basically proves GOP is a Trump cult. I would definitely say the Democratic Party finds itself in a lot of trouble against a party with no platform beyond culture wars and "Love thy Trump" and no better plan for solving inflation.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It really sounds like an inability to understand the actual problems with progressive orgs because they're ultimately the same problems with liberal ones; the culture of a reverence for hierarchy and personal ambition means you end up with everyone in charge pursuing their own prestige, enrichment and arbitrary personal goals at the expense of the overall organisational ones, and no one, especially in mainstream media, is even able to recognise this is a problem, let alone call it out. After all, that's what you're supposed to do. Make that money, Obama. This is a whole lot of text to say that people have individual personal interests that they place above the organizational goals. People absolutely recognize that as a problem, it just doesn't get a lot of oxygen except for egregious cases because it's expected. It's like busting in here with the revelation that gravity is the real reason we can't all fly like Superman. If your goals require all organizations being staffed by purely altruistic people then you're in trouble. Part of the reason corporate structure and "social enterprises" have been gaining popularity is they harness people's self-interest towards productive ends. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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It shouldn't be expected though. It should be told to gently caress off. If you arent able to listen to the people implementing things you aren't doing progressive activism well. You seem to be saying "well harness self interest towards good ends" which, let's be blunt, is not as possible as a lot of us would like.
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Josef bugman posted:It shouldn't be expected though. It should be told to gently caress off. If you arent able to listen to the people implementing things you aren't doing progressive activism well. It's a lot more possible then telling everyone to gently caress off and getting anything done.
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Jarmak posted:It's a lot more possible then telling everyone to gently caress off and getting anything done. Telling people who are looking to aggrandise themselves is not everyone. Especially not if it's coming from within organisations.
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Elon Musk says he will be forming a Super PAC to support "Moderate candidates from both parties" and to support Ron DeSantis for President. He didn't specify how much of his own money he would be putting into it or how much he would be raising from other people. He also says he supported Yang in 2020, but will still support DeSantis over Yang's new 3rd party (poor Yang can't catch a break) in 2024. https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1537051416459714560 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1536977611313844224 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1536976484446904320 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1536977864561766402
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Holy poo poo Elon DO NOT try to grow a beard
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Elon Musk says he will be forming a Super PAC to support "Moderate candidates from both parties" and to support Ron DeSantis for President. I guess the bar for "moderate" has now been lowered to "is more or less willing to accept the results of a democratic election without storming the capitol, probably".
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Data Graham posted:Holy poo poo Elon DO NOT try to grow a beard Looking at how he regenerated his hairline, all he needs to do is concentrate really hard and the beard will appear
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Ah yes the genius tech billionaire who doesn't know how to install an adblocker. He's just another idiot with too much money. All the dark money propping up the GOP is from know-nothing jackasses in love with Ayn Rand. It's amazing how much trouble is caused simply because a handful of people with billions of dollars never grew out of being a libertarian in high school.
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Sir Lemming posted:I guess the bar for "moderate" has now been lowered to "is more or less willing to accept the results of a democratic election without storming the capitol, probably". He thinks Biden has gone "extreme left" because he has "given in to cancel culture," the FTC and NHTSA are both investigating Tesla, the SEC has fined him for misleading investors, and the Build Back Better bill had a provision giving a bonus $4,000 consumer rebate on top of the standard $8,000 consumer rebate for buying an electric car if your electric car was made in America with union labor. So, his definition of "moderate" is probably pretty unique.
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Mandatory "Just one poll" caveat, but initial polling has Fetterman up by 9 points on Dr. Oz. In the Governor's race, Republicans nominated the weakest candidate and the only one polling below Shapiro and it appears he is still polling behind Shapiro after the primary too. The Governor's race is still pretty close, though. This is the first post-primary poll from a major professional pollster, so there aren't any other major polls to compare it to. Topline Results: Senate Fetterman (D): 46% Oz (R): 37% Undecided: 13% Governor Shapiro (D): 44% Mastriano (R): 40% Undecided: 13% https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1537070220967288833
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