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Roctavian posted:What they should have established is more perspectives on how/why the risen operate as people anyways. Like, what if it was a common belief among non-risen humans that guardians are just making up that bullshit about not having their past memories? Amanda's issues with Crow make her sound out-of-touch with a basic, foundational aspect of the world she lives in. last week's helm transmission had Amanda admit that Crow didn't deserve what she said- she was lashing out in a moment of anger. And there's also that Crow had his memories returned and knew his identity for months, but had been avoiding/lying to her.
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Mazerunner posted:what a dumb take. How much freedom do ghosts have over who they choose to guardianify? The game shows them wandering around the whole solar system scanning corpses for up to decades or centuries until they find their storybook one true love. Do they have to be human, or is there a lightbearing bear somewhere out there? Can they abandon the first one and choose someone else? Could a ghost resurrect an entire cemetery at once?
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someone else sees this and mugs you... the second guy is the baddie! The first one is, maybe, naive, but it's a totally valid ethical stance to think it's better to be naive but kind, than 'smart' but cruel.
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ponzicar posted:find their storybook one true love. Shown in the lore to be untrue. Ghosts can screw up and raise someone they "shouldn't". https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/ghost-hunter#book-ghost-stories https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/the-chosens-choice#book-ghost-stories https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/5-moths-to-flame-part-ii#osiris Two Ghosts lament on their choice of Risen. Sagira brow beats a Ghost for bad choice in Risen. ponzicar posted:Can they abandon the first one and choose someone else? It's happened at least once. https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/confession-of-hope-part-one#book-ghost-stories https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/ghost-fragment-the-last-word-3#shin-malphur Child gets raised by a Ghost that later dies. Child grows up and gets picked by a different Ghost after it's previous Risen dies. EDIT: added some clarity because these are long pages life_source fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Jun 15, 2022 |
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also Fynch killing his Hive, and this one where a Risen Hive rejects its ghost/being alive https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/jynx
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To be fair, there are ghosts that are fanatical about their link to 'One Guardian One Ghost' while others are basically done with the Traveller and willing to strike out on their own. https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/difference-of-opinion They also have their own emotions, culture and curiosity beyond their Guardians. And I want to go watch this: https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/ghost-community-theater-presents#book-ghost-stories Mazerunner posted:also Fynch killing his Hive, and this one where a Risen Hive rejects its ghost/being alive Another example: ghosts can experience insanity, reject their Guardians, and even torture them to suicide. https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/entry-12-debtors-knife J.A.B.C. fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Jun 15, 2022 |
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Pirate Jet posted:Gonna have to say I don’t really care that PVP streamers can’t figure out that a sniper shot from a hundred meters away taken while in midair probably shouldn’t have pinpoint accuracy. So. Uh. Here I am absolutely fine with air accuracy nerfs. But the reticle was directly on their heads and the game forced a miss. There is a big difference between lowering skill ceiling and gaps and intrusive game mechanics. And I think this is the latter. Not to mention this was the highest possible chance to build into Air Accuracy that currently exists in the game, and the devs have outright explicitly stated the intention is aerial accuracy will actually go up in the new system, it's just you have to build into and sacrifice to get there. So right now this isn't working as intended, and it's wrong for the game to force a miss that explicitly isn't a miss.
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Jun 15, 2022 04:55
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Is there a bonus reputation this week like Vanguard was last week and why is this not made obvious in the interface
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fast cars loose anus posted:Is there a bonus reputation this week like Vanguard was last week and why is this not made obvious in the interface it's trials but it's not obvious cause you can't select trials yet when you pick an activity with double xp there's a thingy in modifiers before you launch
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Oh, ok fair enough. Thanks
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Yeah, the activities are tagged now, which is good, but there's still no good way to answer the question "What is the double rep activity this week?" other than checking every activity by hand or asking around
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syntaxfunction posted:(I am 100% PvE focused, and I suck at aiming so more bullets is better than not more bullets) Same, my Subsistence Krait is my constant travel buddy throughout the solar system
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haveblue posted:Yeah, the activities are tagged now, which is good, but there's still no good way to answer the question "What is the double rep activity this week?" other than checking every activity by hand or asking around Or remembering what it was from the popup that for some loving reason occurs on Friday the week prior, which I either never do or accidentally skip past before it registers Do that one on Tuesday!
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Nelson Mandingo posted:So. Uh. Here I am absolutely fine with air accuracy nerfs. But the reticle was directly on their heads and the game forced a miss. There is a big difference between lowering skill ceiling and gaps and intrusive game mechanics. And I think this is the latter. Not to mention this was the highest possible chance to build into Air Accuracy that currently exists in the game, and the devs have outright explicitly stated the intention is aerial accuracy will actually go up in the new system, it's just you have to build into and sacrifice to get there. Midrange in-air snipes will work with heat rises or 60-70 airborne effectiveness. They're just limiting one-hit kills from cheap poo poo like oob floating and cross-map float snipes.
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Mazerunner posted:also Fynch killing his Hive, and this one where a Risen Hive rejects its ghost/being alive
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Jun 15, 2022 08:22
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Collateral Damage posted:Did Fynch kill his hive? I thought he just decided not to rescurrect it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTJd4pLjdDQ somewhat ambiguous, in that he doesn't outright say "yeah I killed him" buuuuuuuut uhh, yeah
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Jun 15, 2022 08:41
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:
This is something that really disappointed me. Why did Zavala need a dead wife and son? At least why did they need to have been murdered? The story should have written itself: Zavala feels guilty because he is immortal and his family grew old and died while he stayed the same. There's tons of emotional impact with that. Zavala didn't need reason 6000 to hate Fallen.
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Jun 15, 2022 09:06
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I know Eris has Savathun's body and all but what's to stop Immaru from flying through a window and resurrecting her?
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Mazerunner posted:somewhat ambiguous, in that he doesn't outright say "yeah I killed him" buuuuuuuut uhh, yeah Curious how a ghost could practically kill someone. Bumped him off a cliff?
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Collateral Damage posted:Huh. I've never gotten that voice line. That's interesting. Told him there was some sweet loot at the bottom of it, so the Hive jumped and misadventured
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Panderfringe posted:This is something that really disappointed me. Why did Zavala need a dead wife and son? At least why did they need to have been murdered? The story should have written itself: Zavala feels guilty because he is immortal and his family grew old and died while he stayed the same. There's tons of emotional impact with that. Zavala didn't need reason 6000 to hate Fallen. the point is that Zavala instilled a ~warrior spirit~ in his son and even trained him in combat, which is what led to him picking up a sword and getting wrecked, instead of hiding. Zavala feels guilt for that. So it's not "sad cuz immortal", it's "sad cuz he (felt he) was a bad role model". It actually has very little to do with being immortal and only tangentially with being a Guardian, in the sense of Guardians are warriors who excel at and revel in combat. His wife left and did die of old age. Collateral Damage posted:Huh. I've never gotten that voice line. That's interesting. I have the impression that he actually stabbed the Knight with his horn, and that's why Fynch's horn is broken, but I don't know if there's proof of that or if it's fandom. Judge Tesla posted:I know Eris has Savathun's body and all but what's to stop Immaru from flying through a window and resurrecting her? Vanguard's got it stashed away somewhere hidden and secure, so he can't get to it. Although I think it's pretty likely they'll have a mission or something about the Hive making an attempt to get at it in the future. Mazerunner fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Jun 15, 2022 |
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Mazerunner posted:I have the impression that he actually stabbed the Knight with his horn, and that's why Fynch's horn is broken, but I don't know if there's proof of that or if it's fandom. Those horns look really dull, but it is funny to think every time our Guardian crushes a Hive Ghost they’re sticking their hand in a blender.
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One thing I've been wanting to know is this, do Guardians get horny because that must be awkward for the Ghosts who are hovering around right?
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Mazerunner posted:Vanguard's got it stashed away somewhere hidden and secure, so he can't get to it. Although I think it's pretty likely they'll have a mission or something about the Hive making an attempt to get at it in the future. Zero Hour, except you race through the Tower's innards to stop a Lucent Hive Heist, do it Bungie.
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J.A.B.C. posted:Another example: ghosts can experience insanity, reject their Guardians, and even torture them to suicide.
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Judge Tesla posted:One thing I've been wanting to know is this, do Guardians get horny because that must be awkward for the Ghosts who are hovering around right? Fleshlight ghost casing to the rescue! Cuming soon to an eververse store near you.
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ponzicar posted:Do they have to be human, or is there a lightbearing bear somewhere out there? Sapience and free will are a critical part of the wager, so no bears, but hypothetically Eliksni, Cabal, Psions, Hive are all on the menu. and the calling up of the lattermost might’ve broken a taboo, we’ll see…!
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Panderfringe posted:The story should have written itself: Zavala feels guilty because he is immortal and his family grew old and died while he stayed the same. this is literally what the moral of the story is, though. he even comes right out and says it in the post-script at the tower: "our minds were not meant to go for this long" also everything that mazerunner said. zavala's specific guilt over hakim is because hakim was trying to emulate his blue dad, an immortal warrior, and got murdered because of it. it's why zavala started the vanguard and created the guardian class: to teach the risen under his command that they are extremely different from normal humans and that they need to keep that in mind so they don't get mortals slaughtered. this has been a consistent theme throughout the game for years, including a page out of ghost stories: quote:He showed his might as one of the Risen and demanded he be lauded as savior. Those he once protected now died under his charge, and they venerated him all the more for it. and the getaway artist exotic gloves: quote:The chumps that run out to stop us are babies. That's the kicker with Warlords—other than ours, there's not a Ghost in sight here. Just civilians who can barely hold their guns without wetting their pants, who can't aim worth a drat, who stick their necks out for the bad guys with eternal life. Real geniuses. these are very obvious themes that the game has been shoving into our eyes for a long time and i'm kinda surprised that for all of your criticisms of the game you haven't picked up on the fact that it's telling the same story, again, instead of showing us more new material
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Mazerunner posted:the point is that Zavala instilled a ~warrior spirit~ in his son and even trained him in combat, which is what led to him picking up a sword and getting wrecked, instead of hiding. Zavala feels guilt for that. So it's not "sad cuz immortal", it's "sad cuz he (felt he) was a bad role model". It actually has very little to do with being immortal and only tangentially with being a Guardian, in the sense of Guardians are warriors who excel at and revel in combat. Well that's what I get for only half paying attention. The context clues from the snippets of dialogue did not suggest that. In my defense though, the story is written in kindergarten crayons and doesn't deserve that much attention.
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But most of all, Hakim needed to be killed by a Fallen so that Sever could have a Boss that week
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:But most of all, Hakim needed to be killed by a Fallen so that Sever could have a Boss that week Curse this 10 button controller! It's only good for shooting guns!
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:But most of all, Hakim needed to be killed by a Fallen so that Sever could have a Boss that week I would have preferred to fight bungie's personification of the unstoppable march of time which let's be honest would have just been another fallen captain
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Panderfringe posted:Well that's what I get for only half paying attention. The context clues from the snippets of dialogue did not suggest that. In my defense though, the story is written in kindergarten crayons and doesn't deserve that much attention. Crayons are meant to be consumed and thoroughly digested.
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Panderfringe posted:I would have preferred to fight bungie's personification of the unstoppable march of time Dude the Vex are right there
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Calus Mini Tool + Incandescent is  Especially with Starfire Protocol, Explosive Wellmaker and Bountiful Wells. Witherhoard and your choice of heavy, ideally something like Cataclysm or Gjally
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Ugh, got DC'd on the last part of this week's story mission boss. It's not that time consuming, but still a mood killer. Doesn't help that for some stupid reason this week has a challenge to replay the very first story mission thing with a solar sub class and kinetic/solar/stasis weapons. Why wouldn't it be this weeks? Or any of them? I'd be tempted to ignore if it didn't award one of the vendor upgrade thingies.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:But most of all, Hakim needed to be killed by a Fallen so that Sever could have a Boss that week Don't worry you can fight Ghaul next week and his knockoff versions of guardian supers.
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Does anyone feel like the drop rate for Haunted redboxes has dropped off from the start of the season? Early on I was getting two redboxes from the same containment completion, now it seems like I never get any and the only way to get any non-guaranteed ones is to spam the random-weapon focus at the helm. Even the drop rate for Opulent Keys feels worse now.
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Paracelsus posted:Does anyone feel like the drop rate for Haunted redboxes has dropped off from the start of the season? Early on I was getting two redboxes from the same containment completion, now it seems like I never get any and the only way to get any non-guaranteed ones is to spam the random-weapon focus at the helm. Even the drop rate for Opulent Keys feels worse now. I’ve actually only just started getting a bunch (haunted redboxes) after getting gently caress all the first few weeks. Opulent Keys definitely feel stingier.
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I've wandered around the leviathan more than is probably healthy and I don't think the rate has been changed, it's just so low it messes with our intuition and feels streaky
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Oxyclean posted:Ugh, got DC'd on the last part of this week's story mission boss. It's not that time consuming, but still a mood killer. The next 5 weeks each have a challenge to do Week 2's mission, then Week 3's mission etc etc with specific weapon & subclass loadouts The reasoning is probably... 1. Make you do old content again (the Bungie Way!) 2. This way you're not 'distracted' by running a forced loadout when you do the new story content each week It's silly and dumb but Sever is like a 7 minute activity so it's still the quickest Upgrade Figment in the game!
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