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PT6A posted:Say what now? There’s no logic, these statements may as well be generated by a chatbot fed by wingnut message boards. Green and Boebert in particular were hired as lightning rods to make the rest of the party look sane by comparison.
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Jaxyon posted:For those who have either been saying that Biden should have been making EOs in support of LGBT+ issues, or that he could not do that, here you go! We'll need the executive order since that's most of that's pretty vague and doesn't really look to be any kind of response to the anti-trans actions by states recently, but do conversion camps receive significant federal funds currently? That's a curiosity I've not heard before.
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PT6A posted:Say what now? She says the reason there aren't enough tampons to go around is because THE DEMOCRATS are putting them all in men's bathrooms for trans people to use. https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1537045319501942785 Similarly, she's blaming the baby formula shortages on immigrants. https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1536539035774210051 It's pretty concerning, honestly. Rather than just blaming shortages on the Dems and using that to take power so they can oppress vulnerable folks, they're directly blaming vulnerable folks. PhazonLink posted:i mean technicial racism is a type of logic is just mostly evil bullshit bad. MTG hired him on as an unpaid intern a couple months ago. So he's still under a pile of debt, but he might get the opportunity to become relevant again.
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Kalli posted:We'll need the executive order since that's most of that's pretty vague and doesn't really look to be any kind of response to the anti-trans actions by states recently, but do conversion camps receive significant federal funds currently? That's a curiosity I've not heard before. Yeah it seems pretty vague Here is the White House page on the exec order, I can't find the actual order text https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...ng-pride-month/
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Did it occur to this waste of flesh that maybe condoms and tampons should be present in both bathrooms because they aren't non-transferrable products, and might be purchased by someone other than the intended user for any number of reasons, even before bringing trans people into the conversation?
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Kalli posted:We'll need the executive order since that's most of that's pretty vague and doesn't really look to be any kind of response to the anti-trans actions by states recently, but do conversion camps receive significant federal funds currently? That's a curiosity I've not heard before. No. The executive order basically just "clarifies" that federal agencies aren't allowed to be supporting them at all, even though they aren't currently, but it basically says to make sure nobody who gets federal funds uses them for that. It doesn't currently change anything from the status quo, though. It doesn't really do anything except make extra clear what the policy is. The suicide prevention resource changes, access to gender affirming care, and adoption/foster family guidelines are materially significant. The FTC investigation/clarification into conversion therapy advertising and whether they qualify as false advertising could be significant or not. It really depends on how the FTC handles it. I'm not sure how aggressive conversion therapy sites are advertising in public or making specific medical claims. They seem like the kind of thing your pastor/crazy aunt recommends and not something that does a lot of public advertising.
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paranoid randroid posted:Fetterman is getting more rectangular every time I see a picture of him. By election day he's going to be a Thwomp. Then he can jump into the air and squish Dr. Oz.
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Then he can jump into the air and squish Dr. Oz. Why wait, just eat him now. He IS the larger candidate, after all.
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AtomikKrab posted:Fetterman is merely gathering the energy of Pennslyvania into himself He's the Avatar of PA
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Also anybody who has ever stocked those vending machines can tell you it is the most generic poo poo nobody would ever buy at retail if they could avoid it. They are not consumer products in most places. Also "warehouses along the border" wtf does that even mean, immigrants are stockpiling our baby formula?
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Mendrian posted:Also anybody who has ever stocked those vending machines can tell you it is the most generic poo poo nobody would ever buy at retail if they could avoid it. They are not consumer products in most places. Again, it's just a way to mention the border, which always means the southern border where the scary brown people are, and never like, Canadians.
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Mendrian posted:Also anybody who has ever stocked those vending machines can tell you it is the most generic poo poo nobody would ever buy at retail if they could avoid it. They are not consumer products in most places. Last month, someone took a photo of a pallet of baby formula, sent it to right-wing media, and claimed it was destined for a immigration processing center. Ever since, the far right has been screaming about how Biden should be deporting immigrant babies faster so that he can PUT AMERICA FIRST. Here's a sampling: https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1524922492695064576 https://twitter.com/Kat_Cammack/status/1524427674638336001 https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1524780672795164672
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Jaxyon posted:Yeah it seems pretty vague Order text: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...ex-individuals/
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Jaxyon posted:For those who have either been saying that Biden should have been making EOs in support of LGBT+ issues, or that he could not do that, here you go! Here we go... where? I mean look at this quote:the president's order will call on the Department of Health and Human Services to release new sample policies for states on how to expand access to comprehensive health care for LGBTQ patients. He is also calling on the Department of Education to release a sample school policy for achieving full inclusion for LGBTQ students. This is immensely weak poo poo. They're going to create some sample policies and... what? Hope the psychos trying to exterminate us read them and go "oh wow, that's much smarter than what we were doing before!"? What's the plan for when red states tell HHS and the DoE where to shove their sample policies like they've been doing since reconstruction? They're going to gather data on how many of us are homeless, so at least they'll know! And does anyone still fall for the "access to" healthcare line? This sucks rear end! God drat I loving hate Joe Biden!
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paranoid randroid posted:Fetterman is getting more rectangular every time I see a picture of him. By election day he's going to be a Thwomp. Every time I see a picture of Fetterman I think of Kingpin from Into The Spider-Verse.
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some plague rats posted:Here we go... where? I mean look at this I would like to know what exactly "access" to health care means in this scenario. The term's definition is ambiguous because it's used in politics to refer to access to healthcare that is practical, i.e. good enough insurance coverage to make going to the doctor not a serious blow to one's finances, or theoretical, i.e. a doctor exists near you who would take you as a patient. I suppose we'll find out when the text of the DHHS' drafts becomes available, though as you say states are under no compunction to listen to these and it will not improve matters in red states.
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Virginia has recriminalized possession of marijuana. Maximum penalty for possession of 4 ounces or more is currently a civil fine of $25. After this, maximum penalty is a $1,000 fine and 6 months in prison for a second offense. The Virginia house has also blocked the Senate's efforts to approve retail sales. https://norml.org/blog/2022/06/01/virginia-approved-budget-recriminalizes-public-marijuana-possession-over-4-ounces/ Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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elections have consequences. still not sure if I've heard or read a decently argued postmort of VA, like I guess parents mass switching after the unforced error/gaff of disrespecting parents of students sticks in my mind, but thats just a small part.
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PT6A posted:Did it occur to this waste of flesh that maybe condoms and tampons should be present in both bathrooms because they aren't non-transferrable products, and might be purchased by someone other than the intended user for any number of reasons, even before bringing trans people into the conversation? she's doing a transphobia there and literally nothing else
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some plague rats posted:Here we go... where? I mean look at this The main issue is that: -- It involves a great deal of bureaucracy. Last month's push around free lunch programs basically just demanded investigations of recipients that were not following Title IX. -- It's a regressive policy as its leveraging money that on the face of it helps vulnerable groups, so it's easy to spin in a bad way. -- Conservatives also hate the poor.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:He thinks Biden has gone "extreme left" because he has "given in to cancel culture," the FTC and NHTSA are both investigating Tesla, the SEC has fined him for misleading investors, and the Build Back Better bill had a provision giving a bonus $4,000 consumer rebate on top of the standard $8,000 consumer rebate for buying an electric car if your electric car was made in America with union labor. Polarization has really done a number on the U.S in the past decade is what I keep coming back too. I'm still kind of amazed the country hasn't devolved into all out open civil war between red and blue states and that there hasn't been even more political violence than has transpired. loving poo poo tons of rhetoric getting thrown around more and more nowadays though with the literally endless culture wars and complete abdication of policy platforms. Tons of people with influence now buy into a lot of this poo poo too as evidenced by the likes of Elon Musk, Joe Rogan and likeminded individuals. Anyway I almost can't remember what American politics was like before all the screeching name calling and jeering between a party that spends all it's energy talking about how they're going to turbo gently caress the other one and everyone in the world that doesn't do exactly what they want when they're drat well told, and that one just kind of sitting their and taking it and not really doing much in response. You just literally don't need a policy platform to run a campaign anymore it would seem so I don't entirely get what the point of democracy is anymore when you're getting poo poo choices. The GOP only talks about inflation in the context of it happening on Biden's what, of course not offering solutions on what they would do. Just the usual vague insults, rhetoric and insinuations about there not being inflation a year ago and "get things back on track" by voting for Republicans who 99% of the time only go on about culture wars and wanting to stick it to the LGBT community. It's just really bad for democracy that that's an effective tactic and people just go for that, have that little faith or value systems with regard to anything like deciding on candidates to elect to congress, and that just saying the thing that opposes the thing that they are told to be against is seen as a viable political solution and legitimate debate and discourse all in one. It's just kind of the definition of political backsliding and decaying of the political conversation. Like this is the same country that had the Civil Rights movement of the 60's and came up with those ideas and discussions within a lot of our parents and grandparents lifetime. BTW having seen how it's gone in the first couple years I would have to say that pretty weak leadership from Biden has kind of plagued the party and hurt their chances of impeding further encroachment from GOP fascism. It's been kind of hard to sit here and deny that his second year hasn't been pretty bad. Not Trump bad, but bad enough that it opens the door to people considering an alternative and willing to buy into the GOP craziness again more than in 2020 when their landing on topics that are related to inflation or baby formula shortages and not bullshit like culture wars and whining about Trump losing in 2020. They'll regret it though if the GOP get an even bigger grip on power than state level gerrymandering and a scuffed partisan Supreme Court gives them. In a normal political climate, I'd probably say there's no way Biden get's re-elected unless there's a big turn around in his presidency (which is hard to imagine without more Democratic seats in congress letting them pass legislation), but the GOP's insistence on full throttle culture wars and likeliness to put up the most polarizing candidate they can possibly find for presidency kind of makes 2024 a toss-up I imagine. DeSantis would probably be their best bet because he's a big rear end in a top hat about the culture war horseshit and assorted rhetoric, but he can also probably carry a talking point other than about himself or that when he needs to, which I think is impossible for Trump. Kale fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Virginia has recriminalized possession of marijuana. This is a dumb and stupid move but it's not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. Colorado allows only up to 2 oz by comparison. Va is still double that. Va should be working on legalizing recreational dispensaries instead of what they're doing, but this is what happens when you nominate Terry McCaullife. Hopefully Va Democrats are less stupid during the next primary for Governor.
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Not sure if this has been posted already, but DOJ challenged the anti-trans bill in Alabama on 14th amendment grounds https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-challenges-alabama-law-criminalizes-medically-necessary-care-transgender Title IX for trans students is reinstated by Biden's DOE. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/us/politics/title-ix-transgender-students.html As far as doing what they can without Congress, I'm glad to see these things happening.
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B B posted:This is a dumb and stupid move but it's not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. How big a deal were they making it out to be? As far as I can see they were just describing something that's happening. Also, putting people into prison for weed is actually monstrous.
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Does Elon have American citizenship? If so, DeSantis is technically correct that he's an African-American, the worst kind of correct
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Timeless Appeal posted:In the case of schools, the administration actually has signaled the use of federal funding as a leverage tool which is really the federal government's only power over schools. Remember: States don't even have to provide free education for children if they really didn't want to. That last point seems like the most important one, they're basically threatening republicans with a good time. How the hell is "we're going to stop funding your kid's schools" the best leverage they could come up with?
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HonorableTB posted:Does Elon have American citizenship? Yes.
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HonorableTB posted:Does Elon have American citizenship? If so, DeSantis is technically correct that he's an African-American, the worst kind of correct I think everyone understood the middle-school level gotcha moment he was going for there. You don't, in fact, have to hand it to him for recycling an old joke from Mean Girls or whatever
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I always thought "African-American" is specifically referring to the descendants of slaves because they don't know their exact origins (neither did many modern countries exist then) while someone emigrating from say DRC and their descendants would be "Congolese-American". I certainly hope that America doesn't just automatically put all black countries in one category while French Americans, German Americans, etc. get their own...
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It can be both. For example, the term 'Asian American' was termed by students and activists from many Asian countries as a way to band together beyond their regional differences and fight together for recognition and to fight against harmful stereotypes including the 'model minority' ones.
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DarkCrawler posted:I always thought "African-American" is specifically referring to the descendants of slaves because they don't know their exact origins (neither did many modern countries exist then) while someone emigrating from say DRC and their descendants would be "Congolese-American". I certainly hope that America doesn't just automatically put all black countries in one category while French Americans, German Americans, etc. get their own... No, African-American just means Black. You're presumably thinking of ADOS, which is its own can of worms
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In a completely predictable turn, the non politician with diagnosed multiple personality disorder might have some baggage. https://twitter.com/tracyconnor/status/1537397825369145344?s=21&t=Gz5b3XSqyq7UntYRrPAyTA Every time he opens his mouth it’s a cry for help for someone to contact adult protective services. https://twitter.com/nothoodlum/status/1537115232191057920?s=21&t=Gz5b3XSqyq7UntYRrPAyTA And he’s tied in the most recent poll https://twitter.com/jacobrubashkin/status/1536802774817677315?s=21&t=Gz5b3XSqyq7UntYRrPAyTA FizFashizzle fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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FizFashizzle posted:In a completely predictable the non politician with diagnosed multiple personality disorder might have some baggage. I'm not going to get in a huge argument being accused of defending R's but please reconsider the language you're using and how it might contribute to the stigmatizing mental health disorders and generating a feeling of ableism that those with psych. disorders aren't capable of being public servants.
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some plague rats posted:That last point seems like the most important one, they're basically threatening republicans with a good time. How the hell is "we're going to stop funding your kid's schools" the best leverage they could come up with? Title I funding on the other hand is a different matter because while Title I funding is attached to students from low income families, it for the most part goes into a big pot of money and can provide you with some flexibility in spending. Losing Title I stings like a motherfucker.
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FizFashizzle posted:In a completely predictable turn, the non politician with diagnosed multiple personality disorder might have some baggage. It's absolutely amazing how completely meaningless anything except victory is to Republican voters. Not even a pretense of standards or coherent morality, just an endless parade of "You thought we were evil before? You ain't seen nothing yet. Hold my beer." There just is no floor to their absolute debasement at the altar of being awful.
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Kale posted:Polarization has really done a number on the U.S in the past decade is what I keep coming back too. I'm still kind of amazed the country hasn't devolved into all out open civil war between red and blue states A good post and sorry for picking nits at hypotheticals but a second civil war in America would be significantly more messy than just "red states" vs. "blue states." I imagine, for example, that Cascadia would be a hotbed of violence. Oregon and Washington are "blue states" but the Eastern regions of them are blood red.
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DarkCrawler posted:It's absolutely amazing how completely meaningless anything except victory is to Republican voters. Not even a pretense of standards or coherent morality, just an endless parade of "You thought we were evil before? You ain't seen nothing yet. Hold my beer." There just is no floor to their absolute debasement at the altar of being awful. Only exceptions I can think of are Roy Moore and Madison Cawthorne but you're right.
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