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Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Willa Rogers posted:

how many people state that they're registered green voters?

Not many. I have voted green many times over the years but have always been a registered democrat.

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Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Willa Rogers posted:

yeah, like they also press stated indies as "leaners" to one party or another (and those polls also show a p. even split of indies leaning gop & indies leaning dem).

I mean, they're going to ask you your political party in polling bc they already have access to party registration (public knowledge that they can purchase from secretaries of state).

many states don’t register by party, but you can still lookup primary voting history (for Republicans and Democrats only) in those states but it’s not the same.


I think the “independents are secret chuds” thing is more an artifact of polling measures than anything else. Once you’ve applied the narrowing filter of “likely voters” that very often just excludes the entirety of the other independent voters types you’re discussing.

Plus the existing bias towards older, wealthier, and more conservative voters we know our current polling biases towards.

Like if you didn’t vote in 2016 or 2020 and you somehow miraculously answer the phone when a pollster calls you won’t make it past the likely voter screen.

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica
Most people I've met who expressly identify as an independent are nonvoters

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


that picture of Biden at Jimmy Carter's house was Jimmy passing the one term curse onto him

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

papa horny michael posted:

Most people I've met who expressly identify as an independent are nonvoters

sounds like independents are representative of the general population!

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
independents are whoever i want them to be because they're perfectly amorphous for me to project and confirm my biases

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





double donut more like double do not (post, in c-spam)

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
posters please. let hs remember that above all else, despite our myriad differences, we are united by one shared sentiment: the democrats are going to get destroyed in 2022

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Lord of Pie posted:

that picture of Biden at Jimmy Carter's house was Jimmy passing the one term curse onto him

jimmy carter handing joe biden a piece of his own hair so he can pass on his unique quirk, None For All

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





the democrats are definitely going to be destroyed in 2022 but what's distressing me is all the evidence piling up that they're doing it on purpose because they enjoy it

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



They enjoy it or just don't really disagree with their Republican ruling class comrades aside from :decorum:.

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





I kinda always figured they'd lose and also feel like poo poo about it but it's dawned on me that e.g. nancy pelosi will just laugh her rear end off, they way she does, down a couple pints of ice cream and collect a near-unanimous vote for minority leader from the democratic caucus

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

getting owned is their kink

THS2
Oct 2, 2021

nancy your doing great sweetie dont listen to the haters

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





kevin mccarthy will pass a rule in the house that you can't say the word "abortion" and pelosi will bully half the caucus into voting for it. aoc will vote for it. then she'll do her kind of 80 year-old sarcastic rear end in a top hat act on anyone in the press who asks her about it

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

the democrats are definitely going to be destroyed in 2022 but what's distressing me is all the evidence piling up that they're doing it on purpose because they enjoy it

class solidarity

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Joe Biden putting a hand on one each of kamala and pete's shoulders pulling them in close, telling them how amazing it is to get inside bernie's mind, to wear his skin, to become him, begging pete and kamala to just please, let him help them get off with him

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
if i actively tried to be unlikable i wouldn't be able to be anywhere near as despised as the democrats, who are going to be completely and utterly destroyed in only a few months

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



fast cars loose anus posted:

You are correct, and I knew that, I was just invoking the legend for comparison

There's a much funnier, and true story. NASA spent millions of dollars developing their first space capsule with the ability to land in the ocean and get picked up by the Navy, requiring several boats each time. The Soviets gave their astronauts a parachute and told them to jump out after re-entry.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

the democrats are definitely going to be destroyed in 2022 but what's distressing me is all the evidence piling up that they're doing it on purpose because they enjoy it

If it’s any consolation all accounts are Biden’s legit pissed and wondering why nobody thinks he’s doing a good job, which is funny enough to make it still worth it

Chris James 2 has issued a correction as of 02:03 on Jun 18, 2022

the white hand
Nov 12, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
democrats have put in sustained, generational work to be this hated; you can't just walk into deserving getting destroyed, this much. But if you ever want to reach these heights, start betraying people and just making a human spectacle of pointlessness right now. The longest journey begins with a single step

Justus
Apr 18, 2006

...
regardless of how the politicians feel, it’s the suffering of the lib voter I’m looking forward to the most. nothing can take that shadenfreude from me

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

Trabisnikof posted:

I think the “independents are secret chuds” thing is more an artifact of polling measures than anything else. Once you’ve applied the narrowing filter of “likely voters” that very often just excludes the entirety of the other independent voters types you’re discussing.

I think there's also a phenomenon that whichever party is currently sucking the most rear end in public will see voters distance themselves from the party name, but they still vote for that party because, like, what else are they gonna do?

Edit: What I mean is I expect independents to swing toward Democrats and this will be trumpeted by the remaining 10% that identify as Demoncrat.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Chamale posted:

There's a much funnier, and true story. NASA spent millions of dollars developing their first space capsule with the ability to land in the ocean and get picked up by the Navy, requiring several boats each time. The Soviets gave their astronauts a parachute and told them to jump out after re-entry.

Yeah but the Soviets were ashamed of it (read “afraid the French would not recognize their records”) and hid that detail for as long as they could.

Platystemon has issued a correction as of 07:34 on Jun 18, 2022

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp
The arc of history is long, but it bends towards the democrats getting destroyed in 2022

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Justus posted:

regardless of how the politicians feel, it’s the suffering of the lib voter I’m looking forward to the most. nothing can take that shadenfreude from me

it won't be enough, will it? these dumb motherfuckers won't learn a loving thing, and yet expect to still be considered adults.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Vim Fuego posted:

The arc of history is long, but it bends towards the democrats getting destroyed in 2022

Hopefully also in 2024.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️
biden wouldn't suck if you had voted more, circa 2024

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
the amount of lib vote guilting "but you have to vote for dems! Look at Roe v Wade!" this fall is going to be absolutely unbearable

tenderjerk
Nov 6, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 371 days!

AARD VARKMAN posted:

the amount of lib vote guilting "but you have to vote for dems! Look at Roe v Wade!" this fall is going to be absolutely unbearable

From an accelarationist perspective, not voting at all is the best way I can help you at this point, sorry libs, we're past voting "for" stuff now :nyoron:

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

tenderjerk posted:

From an accelarationist perspective, not voting at all is the best way I can help you at this point, sorry libs, we're past voting "for" stuff now :nyoron:

Congratulations, fellow independent

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

tenderjerk posted:

From an accelarationist perspective, not voting at all is the best way I can help you at this point, sorry libs, we're past voting "for" stuff now :nyoron:

The country already voted for a Dem majority as big as we're likely to get anytime soon, if that doesn't work then what is the point supposed to be?

Nodelphi
Jan 30, 2004

We are all quite capable of believing in anything as long as it's improbable.

Ham Wrangler

PerniciousKnid posted:

The country already voted for a Dem majority as big as we're likely to get anytime soon, if that doesn't work then what is the point supposed to be?

Nothing will fundamentally change.*


*If you are wealthy you’ll be doing better, if you’re poor, get ready to vote harder!

Zvahl
Oct 14, 2005

научный кот

PerniciousKnid posted:

The country already voted for a Dem majority as big as we're likely to get anytime soon, if that doesn't work then what is the point supposed to be?

dangling the idea of removing the filibuster to lie about their intent in getting people to vote for them

imagine thinking that there aren't ten conservative assholes with D in their name ready to also say they have grave misgivings about this blabh blahblahbh not democracblahbalhbalhba

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

PerniciousKnid posted:

The country already voted for a Dem majority as big as we're likely to get anytime soon, if that doesn't work then what is the point supposed to be?

Yeah I mean literally everyone I could vote for in the next two elections is a Democrat incumbent. What exactly can I expect to change if they all win (aside from many of their colleagues losing and their party getting destroyed)?

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

Platystemon posted:

Yeah but the Soviets were ashamed of it (read “afraid the French would not recognize their records”) and hid that detail for as long as they could.

No shame that is way more loving badass than plopping into the water like a giant turd.

Zvahl
Oct 14, 2005

научный кот

docbeard posted:

Yeah I mean literally everyone I could vote for in the next two elections is a Democrat incumbent. What exactly can I expect to change if they all win (aside from many of their colleagues losing and their party getting destroyed)?

don't worry our state has a literal up for grabs senate seat in a state that was called a bellweather up until it didn't vote for obama and the democrats threw it in the garbage and are just running a troop who has four brain cells, so even if they had reason to care they wouldn't do anything no matter what so you can rest easy

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SofFXAdM_MM

*taps thread title*

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

1glitch0 posted:

No shame that is way more loving badass than plopping into the water like a giant turd.
While it is certainly way more loving badass, it should definitely disqualify him. It shouldn't count unless you leave the vehicle in space and fly right down to Earth in wingsuit, ideally landing at your own medal ceremony.

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Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





skipped a load of pages to say: lmao the democrats are throwing trans people under the bus like I knew they eventually would this time five years ago

not that it would win them the midterms, of course, because they were always hosed in the midterms, but they're responding to the current fascist moral panic against trans people by turning a big dial taht says "Transphobia" on it and constantly looking back at the audience for approval like a contestant on the price is right

(it's not worth saying that you can't compromise with fascists because that just legitimises fascist beliefs, because the democrats are going to do it anyway lmaoooooooo)

the world is hosed. I mean, no poo poo lmao, but seeing as the US is going to genocide the transes over the next decade, it's probably going to go from there to the rest of the queers, then the Muslims, the communists, the socialists, the trade unionists, the Jews, and in that time the rest of the world will become increasingly fashy, probably

gently caress

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