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Bismuth posted:Chicken was man door hand hook car door? That's right, the mascara snake.
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Jun 20, 2022 12:57
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Coolness Averted posted:I seriously read that wondering "is this a gag thread with intentionally bad readings of the movie?" That would actually be a pretty good gag thread. "Intentionally misunderstand the subtext of a movie in review form".
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Jun 20, 2022 13:15
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snergle posted:mayo is hated in the us pretty much everywhere outside of potato / macaroni salad. east asia is putting mayo on pizza Do you hear the phrase "anecdotal experience" often?
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Jun 20, 2022 13:29
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please don't take condiment elitism away from me, it's all I have
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Jun 20, 2022 13:44
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I like Kewpie mayo
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hooman posted:That would actually be a pretty good gag thread. "Intentionally misunderstand the subtext of a movie in review form".
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SCheeseman posted:I like Kewpie mayo 
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hooman posted:That would actually be a pretty good gag thread. "Intentionally misunderstand the subtext of a movie in review form". Half of CineD reads like this most days.
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Tiggum posted:There was a discussion of the movie Idiocracy earlier this year (I forget which thread but probably somewhere in PYF) in which one person's take was basically that there's no political subtext, it's just a funny movie about what if everyone was dumb and everyone else was reading too much into it. Ah, the fabled antithesis to "Idiocracy was a documentary"
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Jun 20, 2022 14:37
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Karma Comedian posted:Do you hear the phrase "anecdotal experience" often? I mean people have said it to me, but I don’t think I should expand those instances into any kind of general statement.
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Torchlighter posted:When large portions of media are built specifically to appeal to you and your sense of superiority, the need for actual media literacy falls heavily. Also I would assume anyone who thought Homelander was a good guy until now would also not see anything wrong with him acting like Trump, who they probably voted for. Also it probably makes more sense if the most 'political' thing they ever watched was Game of Thrones, at which point The Boys becomes 'the struggles of Butcher and Homelander to get away from all these systems keeping them down from having a knock down drag out fight that ends it all' and no one is a hero or good person. Eh I think your trying way to hard here, people like for the stuff they like to tell them what they want to hear. The Boys makes fun of rainbow capitalism so you see that not as that but as them making fun of woke leftists. It isn’t very hard or uncommon
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I will never get over how Idiocracy depicts a world absolutely ravaged by capitalism, in which corporations have destroyed every facet of functional government, eradicated education, commercialized executions, and brainwashed the masses with marketing to the point they destroyed the biosphere... and yet the narration just keeps saying "this is because we didn't stop the poors from breeding".
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Jun 20, 2022 15:32
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Vib Rib posted:I will never get over how Idiocracy depicts a world absolutely ravaged by capitalism, in which corporations have destroyed every facet of functional government, eradicated education, commercialized executions, and brainwashed the masses with marketing to the point they destroyed the biosphere... and yet the narration just keeps saying "this is because we didn't stop the poors from breeding". Mike Judge isn't actually that smart, he's just funny sometimes.
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Jun 20, 2022 16:02
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Been forever since I saw it, but wasn’t the problem stated more as “smart people stopped having kids” rather than “poor people should have been forcibly sterilized”? Not saying that it’s isn’t still very problematic, but maybe a little less disgustingly horrible.
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Jun 20, 2022 16:07
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chglcu posted:Been forever since I saw it, but wasn’t the problem stated more as “smart people stopped having kids” rather than “poor people should have been forcibly sterilized”? Not saying that it’s isn’t still very problematic, but maybe a little less disgustingly horrible. Guess which one people took away from that movie?
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Jun 20, 2022 16:10
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Not trying to absolve Mike Judge, but wasn't the voice over and the introduction sequence tacked on by Fox? Remove those and the movie reads pretty differently.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Eh I think your trying way to hard here, people like for the stuff they like to tell them what they want to hear. Which ties back into general political illiteracy where you have alarming numbers of people who will tell you with the deepest sincerity in their poor little hearts that MSNBC and CNN "The Left" and think that because the Nazi party had the word "Socialist" in it that it too was "The Left." Those people aren't dumb, but their worldview of what's normal is so warped by propaganda and a distinct lack of challenging assumptions that they interpret right-wing coded characters like The Seven as "The Left" until the direct parallels to the Far Right are too obvious to ignore. And that's understandable... but also genuinely illiterate. Functionally illiterate, but still illiterate. That can sting as much as you want, call me an Egghead (fair) or even an Ivory Tower whatever (lmao), but it's not said out of malice or to prop up "liberals" or "leftists" or myself in any way. It's not a dig to bring others low in some societal hierarchy. It's acknowledging why communication is fundamentally impossible and while there's no one hard to blame, it's playing by the Right Wing hyper-individual meritocracy values to say "It was your job to learn this in the first place like the rest of us did." General literacy has been dropping across demographics in various areas (political, media, civic, scientific) for a long while now-- try to explain to any random sample of kids under 18 that their favorite YouTuber has a staff working for them and a third will say "sure" a third will say "oh" and a third will fight you and say "no they can't they film from their house"--and while it's lol to watch CHUDs struggle to understand the live action edgelord cartoon, it does speak to a wider problem that can't just be handwaved by "oh well you see when you look through their eyes it makes sense." Sure it does, and recognizing the underlying mechanisms is a fantastic way to keep it from continuing to happen, like a good neighbor is supposed to want for their community. Vib Rib posted:I will never get over how Idiocracy depicts a world absolutely ravaged by capitalism, in which corporations have destroyed every facet of functional government, eradicated education, commercialized executions, and brainwashed the masses with marketing to the point they destroyed the biosphere... and yet the narration just keeps saying "this is because we didn't stop the poors from breeding". To bring it back to Starship Troopers, one of the underrated things that makes that movie work is that it has a remarkable sense of empathy for its subjects. We're given the sense that the system they have is loving awful, but the actors don't wink at the camera and do their best to embody the teenage "coming of age through war" story that they can, and that's what allows the dark stuff to pop so well. All of the true fascist powerholders are invisible throughout the movie, glimpsed only via throwaway asides, the "would you like to know more" UI, or things like Doogie Howser's SS uniform bleeding in at the margins, creating a sense that everyone in that world is perfectly capable of being better... they're stuck in a system (and a crappy movie within that system) that encourages the worst for them and valorizes the process. Meanwhile Idiocracy is just... arrogant and mean, and can't even be bothered to be that funny in the process. SCheeseman posted:Not trying to absolve Mike Judge, but wasn't the voice over and the introduction sequence tacked on by Fox? Remove those and the movie reads pretty differently. I agree without the narration it's way less eugenics-y... but Mike Judge and his team still had to produce and sign off on it even if it was studio mandated. Just because it may not have been Judge's original idea doesn't mean the end result isn't Judge's creation.
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chglcu posted:Been forever since I saw it, but wasn’t the problem stated more as “smart people stopped having kids” rather than “poor people should have been forcibly sterilized”? Not saying that it’s isn’t still very problematic, but maybe a little less disgustingly horrible. Kinda, but there's more going on. In the opening where they show the "smart" couple not having kids, they show a "dumb" couple having like eight. So, they really hit on "the dumbs are out breeding us" within the first 14 minutes.
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I've never seen Idiocracy, and at this point it's hard to be interested in it.
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RoboRodent posted:I've never seen Idiocracy, and at this point it's hard to be interested in it. Watching Idiocracy in 2022 is like going back and expecting to guffaw at 2004 Jon Stuart bits.
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Jun 20, 2022 16:19
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go ahead and watch it but keep in mind that if you laugh you're a Hitler
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Torchlighter posted:When large portions of media are built specifically to appeal to you and your sense of superiority, the need for actual media literacy falls heavily. I accidentally stumbled into watching Don't Look Up with my extremely fox news right wing mom while visiting who giggled at the "patriot news" crazy who was screaming the comet isn't real while my dad literally consumes ivermectin without realizing that's just them. The cognitive dissonance is wild.
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Gonna guess they see themselves as the smart reality-grounded sciencey people and it's the Loony Left who refuse to see the asteroid for what it is and want to just sit around and complain about student loans and avocado toast and genders. The "patriot news" thing is just a very subtle metaphor for the left
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https://twitter.com/Breck_Worsham/status/1538697387828469762 Cool. Now do one about how the right treated Chelsea Clinton or the Obama daughters!
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Watching Idiocracy in 2022 is like going back and expecting to guffaw at 2004 Jon Stuart bits. wait, did I say "great"
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subpar anachronism posted:I accidentally stumbled into watching Don't Look Up with my extremely fox news right wing mom while visiting who giggled at the "patriot news" crazy who was screaming the comet isn't real while my dad literally consumes ivermectin without realizing that's just them. The cognitive dissonance is wild. If they don't have any self awareness about it and it doesn't make them uncomfortable at all then they're in fact not experiencing cognitive dissonance.
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Idiocracy is very early 2000s humor and like a lot of that stuff it’s not even terribly offensive it’s just really dumb
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Clearly, Office Space is the superior Mike Judge film.  This scene is evergreen (and no, it's not the printer smashing scene): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XASNM1XEQPs
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mind the walrus posted:The rub here is that with The Boys and many other examples is that you have to be so disengaged from the framing that the only explanations that could explain that level of sustained dissonance are "you genuinely weren't paying any attention because you had it on in the background while you did other things," "you're functionally illiterate," and/or "you're genuinely kind-of stupid." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rezu5ZFKsC0
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chglcu posted:Been forever since I saw it, but wasn’t the problem stated more as “smart people stopped having kids” rather than “poor people should have been forcibly sterilized”? Not saying that it’s isn’t still very problematic, but maybe a little less disgustingly horrible. It absolutely was. I actually argue it's a step beyond that every time people discuss Idiocracy. It wasn't just dumb vs smart breeding, it was about ineffectual libs being self absorbed and leaving no impact on society while working on vanity projects. Meanwhile 'the hogs' were 4 generations deep in the same timespan and absolutely passing on their values too. Like it's close to a 'both sides' thing, but wasn't just about births, it was about their bubble. That said, yeah it's comedy from 15 years ago, so gonna have a lot of stuff that doesn't age well. Data Graham posted:Gonna guess they see themselves as the smart reality-grounded sciencey people and it's the Loony Left who refuse to see the asteroid for what it is and want to just sit around and complain about student loans and avocado toast and genders. Similarly they could view techlords like Bezos, Jobs, and Musk (depending on when they watched) as liberal, so are fine guffawing at that guy being weird and out of touch. Coolness Averted has a new favorite as of 18:27 on Jun 20, 2022 |
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Holy poo poo there’s a lot of words here recently. I only take issue with one part:mind the walrus posted:Those people aren't dumb, loving yes they are. I grew up in small town Ohio, and every loving idiot who puts a JPG-artifacted American flag and a misspelled inspirational quote on their Facebook page for 9/11, or parrots whatever Fox News tells them to think about “The Left,” or screams at anyone who will listen about “The Steal” and “Let’s Go Brandon” is dumber than a goddamn brick. They would be handily outsmarted by inanimate building materials, and probably many of the lesser dirts and gravels. They failed pre-algebra and social studies 9 times before switching to the car-repair vocational school for the last quarter of their senior year, and their ill-gotten high school diploma remains the absolute pinnacle of achievement that they will ever obtain. I can’t even back this up with a great example, even though this is the thread in which to do so, because there are so many copies of this exact same “I hate anyone who doesn’t wear a men’s Trump-face tank top and backwards Oakleys to church” personality among the people I grew up with. I can’t pick the biggest idiot, and I guarantee that anyone reading this who was raised in America in the past 40 years already knows exactly what their Internet scrawlings look like without me needing to post them.
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Smart people not breeding is functionally the same as poor people overbreeding I don’t see much a point in pretending there is a difference.
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chglcu posted:wasn’t the problem stated more as “smart people stopped having kids” rather than “poor people should have been forcibly sterilized”? Idiocracy (2006) posted:Narrator: As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.
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Chipotle Tests New Mexican Cauliflower RiceOne of the comments posted:It won't be long before they start serving bugs. It's part of the agenda. 
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Read After Burning posted:https://twitter.com/Breck_Worsham/status/1538697387828469762 Never mind that. Didn’t you hear? The laptop of Hunter Biden can start WWIII if we don’t send him to Gitmo in time!
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quote:But the English language had deteriorated into a hybrid of hillbilly, valleygirl, inner-city slang and various grunts. Hoooooly crap, the dog whistle classism and racism there.
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OwlFancier posted:Very hard to imagine how someone who cannot make a cup of coffee could possibly have anything to offer in the field of art criticism. What’s that tweet by sone critic no one cares about that says something like “actually critics are more important than those who actually create things. Anyone can create, it is up to the critics to tell people about that stuff!”
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