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Can't believe nobody has made the obvious connection between popclaw, mesmer, the Whigs and the Know Nothings. Like, once they brought in Lamplighter I figured it was too on the nose and everyone would catch it but  This season's done a pretty solid job of showing Hughie's transformation from the canary to being the problem... and that if he thought he could have been as good at being a Boy as he was a bureaucrat, he probably wouldn't have objected from the start. I was concerned that they were going to position him more selflessly but thought they've done well in hammering how selfserving his descent has been (and how empty his justifications are). Moments have been too blunt for my taste, but Boys fandom makes a compelling case against nuance in media.
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Jun 22, 2022 15:35
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Since I first saw Ashley, I thought I must have seen the actress in something else and she wasn't just reminding me of Heike Makatsch. But after looking at Colby Minifie's filmography, it turns out I've seen none of it. So I guess she just really reminded me of Heike Makatsch (pictured below)! 
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Jun 22, 2022 15:39
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Yeah they both have those wide almond shaped cat eyes, easy mistake to make Jesus I thought Antony’s accent was thick but Claudia Doumin is an INCREDIBLE actress she sounds like a 100% completely different person!
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Jun 22, 2022 15:41
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Noam Chomsky posted:homelander didn't want the muslim or black woman into the seven and let the deep in instead and people are still wondering if he's a racist sexist super incel hE'S nOt RaCiSt He'S jUsT sElFiSh
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Jun 22, 2022 15:56
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Rushputin posted:Since I first saw Ashley, I thought I must have seen the actress in something else and she wasn't just reminding me of Heike Makatsch. She and Erin Moriarty are both in Jessica Jones. Minifie is VERY different than Ashley in that.
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Jun 22, 2022 16:05
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Rushputin posted:Since I first saw Ashley, I thought I must have seen the actress in something else and she wasn't just reminding me of Heike Makatsch. she was virginia in fear the walking dead, if you watch/ed that trash
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Jun 22, 2022 16:32
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Homelander serves a taco bowl and talks in some broken Spanish to Supersonic just because he has an Spanish name. “No Muslims in the 7” *lots of other scenes* How the hell are people saying it’s not that he’s racist, he doesn’t see color lmao
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Jun 22, 2022 16:48
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Homelander fucks, ok?!
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Jun 22, 2022 16:58
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A lot is getting lost in jumping on low hanging fruit and quoting people who are quoting others. People were making the point that Homelander's main goal is not white supremacy, it's his own supremacy and secondarily superhero supremacy, which is his difference with Stormfront. But like any bully - once you have something in particular for him to pick on about you that makes you different in any way, he's going to just focus on that, it's not like how won't do the same with any white hero that he feels like bullying either, it's just easy for him to go on visuals before he actually knows someone. They were making an action and motivation differential, not saying his actions weren't racist. He's going to say and do racist, sexist, homophobic, and abelist stuff constantly because he's a gigantic insecure bully that tries to find your weakness and poke at it.
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Jun 22, 2022 16:59
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bobjr posted:What’s kind of funny is the Muslim hero has mind reading powers, so outside of the racism aspects it’s something Homelander really doesn’t like, if his interaction with Mesmer is any indication And yet she didn’t see the Deep twist coming so how good can she be?
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Jun 22, 2022 17:04
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Darko posted:A lot is getting lost in jumping on low hanging fruit and quoting people who are quoting others. People were making the point that Homelander's main goal is not white supremacy, it's his own supremacy and secondarily superhero supremacy, which is his difference with Stormfront. But like any bully - once you have something in particular for him to pick on about you that makes you different in any way, he's going to just focus on that, it's not like how won't do the same with any white hero that he feels like bullying either, it's just easy for him to go on visuals before he actually knows someone. They were making an action and motivation differential, not saying his actions weren't racist. He's going to say and do racist, sexist, homophobic, and abelist stuff constantly because he's a gigantic insecure bully that tries to find your weakness and poke at it. quoting this because its the only completely correct post RE the topic so far and i dont want it to get skipped
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Jun 22, 2022 17:04
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Darko posted:A lot is getting lost in jumping on low hanging fruit and quoting people who are quoting others. People were making the point that Homelander's main goal is not white supremacy, it's his own supremacy and secondarily superhero supremacy, which is his difference with Stormfront. But like any bully - once you have something in particular for him to pick on about you that makes you different in any way, he's going to just focus on that, it's not like how won't do the same with any white hero that he feels like bullying either, it's just easy for him to go on visuals before he actually knows someone. They were making an action and motivation differential, not saying his actions weren't racist. He's going to say and do racist, sexist, homophobic, and abelist stuff constantly because he's a gigantic insecure bully that tries to find your weakness and poke at it. Agreed, I said earlier that he's like a middle school girl managing her clique. No one really likes the ringleader, but they all hang on that approval and put up with the insults, and for some reason escaping that toxicity either never occurs to them or they think they can't leave (and in this case, that's probably true).
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Jun 22, 2022 17:06
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Bust Rodd posted:quoting this because its the only completely correct post RE the topic so far and i dont want it to get skipped Gotta look at the writing crew, but any minority/LGBTQ+ person/etc. on that crew probably had a million microtransactions with people making fun of their difference. Some of those people are just ignorant of the context and the amount people here the same stuff, and how grating that is, some are just bullies, others are just actual bigots and hiding it behind jokes. They know these differences, and are writing it well on this show. Homelander is basically a Danny McBride character without the deeply buried humanity and missing any hubris at all, which really is an ultra-scary thing. Even a lot of us that were bullied when young, grew up to a point where we can immediately shut any bully up in a social sense - but when it's a boss (and you can't quickly get another job or go to HR), a husband in a situation you can get out of, or the President, then it gets scary. Homelander works that way for every person on the planet.
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Jun 22, 2022 17:13
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Rushputin posted:Since I first saw Ashley, I thought I must have seen the actress in something else and she wasn't just reminding me of Heike Makatsch. I did the same but I realized she was just reminding me of a young Martha Plimpton.
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Jun 22, 2022 17:19
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Darko posted:A lot is getting lost in jumping on low hanging fruit and quoting people who are quoting others. People were making the point that Homelander's main goal is not white supremacy, it's his own supremacy and secondarily superhero supremacy, which is his difference with Stormfront. But like any bully - once you have something in particular for him to pick on about you that makes you different in any way, he's going to just focus on that, it's not like how won't do the same with any white hero that he feels like bullying either, it's just easy for him to go on visuals before he actually knows someone. They were making an action and motivation differential, not saying his actions weren't racist. He's going to say and do racist, sexist, homophobic, and abelist stuff constantly because he's a gigantic insecure bully that tries to find your weakness and poke at it. Exactly. Homelander doesn't give a poo poo about anybody but himself and if you happen to be a minority, he will use your own racial awareness against you. He served tacos to Supersonic as an insult not because he gave a poo poo that he was hispanic, but because Homelander knew it would work as a power play to piss Supersonic off and make him uncomfortable. There's a difference. Homelander is also not anti-Octopus simply because he made Deep eat Timothy. He doesn't give a poo poo about octopuses, but he knows Deep does, so Homelander leveraged that against Deep to force a meaningful gesture of fealty. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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Jun 22, 2022 17:50
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it's only racist if you do it racistly in your mind on purpose
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Jun 22, 2022 17:59
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christmas boots posted:And yet she didn’t see the Deep twist coming so how good can she be? Clearly she saw that coming but thought,"Man they're really good at shielding their thoughts, they're deliberately projecting the stupidest loving thing anybody could ever do to the forefront of their minds so I can't see what is really happening. The 7 really are on a whole other level, it's so inspiring."
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Jun 22, 2022 17:59
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Khanstant posted:it's only racist if you do it racistly in your mind on purpose Homelander performed a racist action specifically to offend a person who happened to he hispanic, but Homelander harbors no specifically reserved negative biases towards hispanic people, so Homelander is not a hispanic racist. Homelander is not racist. He's an rear end in a top hat. Hope that helps. edit: conflating actual racism with general assholery is a bad idea. It makes it easier for actual racism to exist. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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Jun 22, 2022 18:04
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Jerusalem posted:Clearly she saw that coming but thought,"Man they're really good at shielding their thoughts, they're deliberately projecting the stupidest loving thing anybody could ever do to the forefront of their minds so I can't see what is really happening. The 7 really are on a whole other level, it's so inspiring." She also read "if you spoil my fun I'll murder you to death" from Homelander.
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Jun 22, 2022 18:06
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Whole lotta posters itt weirdly dedicated to thinking a person is racist only if they intend to be but not if they just happen to say and do racist things. Interesting. Homelander is racist. He's also a big baby man dipshit. These two things are not exclusionary of the other. tokin opposition fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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Jun 22, 2022 18:20
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Darko posted:Gotta look at the writing crew, but any minority/LGBTQ+ person/etc. on that crew probably had a million microtransactions with people making fun of their difference. Some of those people are just ignorant of the context and the amount people here the same stuff, and how grating that is, some are just bullies, others are just actual bigots and hiding it behind jokes. They know these differences, and are writing it well on this show. You mean like having a guy sneer at you for being visibly queer on a public street? Also why do bullies target those things if not for racism/homophobia/takeyourpickisms?
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Jun 22, 2022 18:22
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Respectfully, I think if someone does racist and sexist things it’s fair to consider them a racist or sexist even if their motivations for doing those things arises out of some pragmatic power-play and not simply a personal feeling.
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Jun 22, 2022 18:30
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Homelander is neither made of land or a home, something if off here.
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Jun 22, 2022 18:54
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Shima Honnou posted:Homelander is neither made of land or a home, something if off here. The big twist at the end of season 4 is that he's been a homestead the whole time.
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Jun 22, 2022 18:57
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Hughie and Starlight adopt one of those superkids and finally make this houselander a homelander.
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Jun 22, 2022 19:00
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Shima Honnou posted:Homelander is neither made of land or a home, something if off here. Wait till they introduce his rival from the comics, Business Ocean
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Jun 22, 2022 19:01
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Bussamove posted:Hughie and Starlight adopt one of those superkids and finally make this houselander a homelander. Teddy's going to teleport inside of Homelander and wear his skin like a suit. crazy stupid theory time: Homelander had spiked Stillwell's pumped breastmilk with V for his own consumption but she gave Teddy the wrong bottle, hence the powers.
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Jun 22, 2022 19:04
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This thread has enough BO
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Jun 22, 2022 19:04
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The posting of the “who goes Nazi?” article a while back is good at making the implicit point that there isn’t one type of racist/Nazi, there are just people with enough rot in their souls that they say “sure, why not?”
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Jun 22, 2022 19:14
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Bussamove posted:Hughie and Starlight adopt one of those superkids and finally make this houselander a homelander. My actual speculation for the series finale: Hughie and Starlight adopt Ryan.
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Jun 22, 2022 19:28
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I'm kinda surprised they haven't made mention of a supe named Tesla with some kind of electric powers, just to make a joke at Elon's expense.
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Jun 22, 2022 19:29
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Shooting Blanks posted:I'm kinda surprised they haven't made mention of a supe named Tesla with some kind of electric powers, just to make a joke at Elon's expense. “So there’s this supe cahnt roight? Finks he’s king poo poo,calls himself noel skum…”
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Jun 22, 2022 19:37
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thankyou racism understanders your contribution to racism taxonomy will not be forgotten
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Jun 22, 2022 19:39
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They're gonna use sign language to bypass Homelander's super hearing aren't they?dodgeblan posted:thankyou racism understanders Homelander still isn't Semenese or an Areopagite, so he still has a way to go before he's really on top.
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Jun 22, 2022 19:41
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Shooting Blanks posted:I'm kinda surprised they haven't made mention of a supe named Tesla with some kind of electric powers, just to make a joke at Elon's expense. If the supes name is Tesla then that kinda reads more as a Nikola Tesla=electricity thing bypassing Elon entirely. What I’d like to see is Tech-Knight. The Batman/Iron man supe from the comics who has no powers beyond being a billionaire playing dress up.
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Jun 22, 2022 19:46
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massive spider posted:If the supes name is Tesla then that kinda reads more as a Nikola Tesla=electricity thing bypassing Elon entirely. I would not want to see the odds on whether more people immediately associate 'Tesla' with Nikola Tesla than with the car company.
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Jun 22, 2022 19:49
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 Always reminds me of 
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Jun 22, 2022 19:50
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massive spider posted:If the supes name is Tesla then that kinda reads more as a Nikola Tesla=electricity thing bypassing Elon entirely. Tek-Knight is mentioned briefly on MM’s conspiracy wall in a headline. I’d like to see how they handle that because outside of Compound V being a thing actual technology in the show has been more or less comparable to actual stuff. No real super-style tech to be seen.
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Jun 22, 2022 19:51
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Shooting Blanks posted:I'm kinda surprised they haven't made mention of a supe named Tesla with some kind of electric powers, just to make a joke at Elon's expense. Didn't they already make a supe with electricity powers with a backstory linked to a country with really problematic racial issues?
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GreatGreen posted:Homelander performed a racist action specifically to offend a person who happened to he hispanic, but Homelander harbors no specifically reserved negative biases towards hispanic people, so Homelander is not a hispanic racist. "It's just heated gamer moments" the post. 
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