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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Jefferson thought a lot of poo poo Some of it was even good! Anyway. I’ll leave it be with a Twitter thread that’s far more educational than any of the shitposting in here (mine included) on this topic. https://twitter.com/MattPShaw/status/1539268132967133187
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 05:13 |
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Yeah, Espinoza and Trinity were both backwards nonsense and really set the foundation. Something to look forward to over the next few decades.
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 06:00 |
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This just finished the circle that was begun with brown. Segregationists white flighted out of newly integrated schools into evangelical segregation academies. Guys like Buchanan in Virginia were supporting state support of these schools way back during the massive resistance days. It just took a 6-3 court to make it happen.
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 06:35 |
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Didn't see this one mentioned: United States v. Taylor and the decision was 7-2, Thomas and Alito dissenting. Gorsuch wrote the majority opinion. Supreme Court says certain gun crimes are not 'crimes of violence' under federal law quote:The Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Virginia man who is seeking to challenge one of his convictions for using a firearm in an attempted robbery. The ruling will allow the man to attempt to reduce his sentence by 10 years. quote:In United States v. Taylor, Justin Taylor was charged with “conspiracy to commit Hobbs Act robbery and attempted Hobbs Act robbery,” which is robbery that affects interstate commerce. Taylor planned to steal money from Martin Sylvester with a co-conspirator. However when the co-conspirator met with Sylvester, the co-conspirator showed his gun to Sylvester demanding money. Sylvester did not comply with the co-conspirators demand and was fatally shot.
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 15:08 |
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Didn’t the conservative majority narrowed some of congress’s poorly defined sentence enhancements somewhat recently?
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 15:14 |
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Going to go out on a limb and guess Thomas's dissent opens with a detailed recounting of the crime.
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 17:33 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:Going to go out on a limb and guess Thomas's dissent opens with a detailed recounting of the crime. Yes but only a paragraph. I guess he doesn’t have quite the same energy in non capital cases. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-1459_n7ip.pdf
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 17:39 |
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The Court is releasing decisions Thursday and Friday this week
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 17:58 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:The Court is releasing decisions Thursday and Friday this week Based on the number of cases left and how many they usually release a day, the abortion decision is most likely coming next week sometime.
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 18:06 |
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Yes it will 100% be the last one they put out
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 19:54 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes it will 100% be the last one they put out After the justices are safely 500 miles away from DC with their phones turned off.
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 19:58 |
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So, I guess the answer to my question awhile back about if SCOTUS sits on decisions is that while they don't "sit" on them per se, they are willing to be all, "We'll finish this one LAST."
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 20:00 |
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The gun case will be second to last on the same day as the abortion case too Also lol at studying for the bar exam right now when they are set to overturn the right to privacy
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 20:04 |
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Not strictly SCOTUS yet, but loving gee I wonder how they'll rule on this one: https://twitter.com/juliabacha/status/1539673763658317824 e. https://twitter.com/juliabacha/status/1539676949215313921 Sydin fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Jun 22, 2022 |
# ? Jun 22, 2022 21:38 |
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If money = speech, then obviously not spending money is not speech, that's just math, bing bong so simple!
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 22:17 |
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What is the penalty for signing the pledge and then not doing business with Israel?
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 22:35 |
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I mean we are like a week away from SCOTUS saying that abortion now gets to be a free-for-all depending on the state you happen to live in, so these bonkers decisions don’t surprise me at all anymore
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 22:36 |
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I am honestly surprised by this decision, because it seemed like such a clear violation of the first amendment that I didn't think any court would uphold the law. American appeal courts are crazy.
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 22:44 |
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It's a completely lunatic Trump judge writing the opinion, so yeah. There are now a lot of total cranks on the appellate courts thanks to the GOP essentially doing court packing once Trump came into office with all of these vacancies the GOP Senate held for him.
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# ? Jun 22, 2022 22:50 |
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"Ok so there is a rule that dogs can't play basketball, but he already scored all those points. We can't take them off the board"
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 01:58 |
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Cimber posted:After the justices are safely 500 miles away from DC with their phones turned off. Won't matter. They're not going to be able to run from this. History will show them to be monsters, and this decision is going to haunt them the rest of their careers. Frankly, I'm fine with them being hounded for the rest of their time on the bench. Not like they feel there is a right to privacy.
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 09:17 |
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Liquid Communism posted:Won't matter. not only will they be able to easily run from this, history might very well treat them as saviors. in fact this may be the shining pinnacle of their careers. they'll never experience any consequences for this for their entire lives, and to their skewed moral framework it is not only entirely justified but empirically righteous.
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 09:26 |
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Oh, they'll absolutely experience no meaningful consequences. The only people who'd ever be in a position to hold them to account in literally any way are too decorum obsessed to conceptualize the Court might not deserve the deference it grants itself.
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 10:26 |
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Today and tomorrow are going to be release days. Don't expect any R v. W decisions today, they are going to release that tomorrow or in July.
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 13:10 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:It's a completely lunatic Trump judge writing the opinion, so yeah. There are now a lot of total cranks on the appellate courts thanks to the GOP essentially doing court packing once Trump came into office with all of these vacancies the GOP Senate held for him. 33 states have that law, so there's an awful lot of Americans who were cranks before even him.
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 13:25 |
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Cimber posted:Today and tomorrow are going to be release days. Don't expect any R v. W decisions today, they are going to release that tomorrow or in July. There are fourteen cases left. Hemphill v. New York New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization Becerra v. Empire Health Foundation Concepcion v. United States West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency (Consolidated with North American Coal Corporation v. Environmental Protection Agency, Westmoreland Mining Holdings v. Environmental Protection Agency, and North Dakota v. Environmental Protection Agency) Ruan v. United States (Consolidated with Kahn v. United States) Berger v. North Carolina State Conference of the NAACP Torres v. Texas Department of Public Safety Kennedy v. Bremerton School District Vega v. Tekoh Nance v. Ward Oklahoma v. Castro-Huerta Biden v. Texas At the current pace of 5 opinions/day, they're not going to go much longer unless we get some single opinion days.
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 13:51 |
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Monaghan posted:I am honestly surprised by this decision, because it seemed like such a clear violation of the first amendment that I didn't think any court would uphold the law. Especially since there's no way to ban not buying certain brands of consumer products, so it can only possibly apply to boycotts accompanied by speech. This isn't good for anyone, even conservatives, and it makes no goddamn sense. I honestly don't see Roberts or Gorsuch biting.
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 14:27 |
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Especially since there's no way to ban not buying certain brands of consumer products, so it can only possibly apply to boycotts accompanied by speech. This isn't good for anyone, even conservatives, and it makes no goddamn sense. I honestly don't see Roberts or Gorsuch biting. Calling my shot: State and Local Governments have Free Speech rights. Individuals can choose to boycott Israel. But then State and Local Governments can choose to boycott contractors who choose to boycott Israel.
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 14:41 |
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I'd have less of a problem (only slightly so but still) if these people were at least consistent with their insane positions. You can't say money is speech and then say boycotts aren't protected speech that's totally incoherent.
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 14:42 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:I'd have less of a problem (only slightly so but still) if these people were at least consistent with their insane positions. You can't say money is speech and then say boycotts aren't protected speech that's totally incoherent. No, you see, donating money is free speech. Spending, or conversely, not spending money is purely commercial activity and thus not speech. If the anti-BDS law said they could not donate money to an anti-Israel PAC, it would be unconstitutional.
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 14:59 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:I'd have less of a problem (only slightly so but still) if these people were at least consistent with their insane positions. You can't say money is speech and then say boycotts aren't protected speech that's totally incoherent. They ARE consistent, the consistency is “gently caress you, obey us or suffer”
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 15:02 |
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I'll spot them Alito because he's a shameless partisan political hack, and maybe Thomas because its impossible to predict where his bizarre brand of moon law will go on a new issue, but I'm having trouble believing this will get more than 2 votes.
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 15:11 |
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Two cases so far today. 12 left in the term. At least one more case today.
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 15:17 |
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Next case of the day is an Alito joint that says you can't sue police for violating your miranda rights. Vega v. Tekoh. Police can do whatever and there is zero recourse! 11 cases left in the term. At least one more today. Final case is Bruen written by thomas 6-3. Reading now. Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Jun 23, 2022 |
# ? Jun 23, 2022 15:28 |
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Now now, that evidence can’t be used at trial! Sometimes.
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 15:29 |
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Bruen - the nation is now shall issue for CCWs. Hawaii, especially, is going to feel the sting of this.
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 15:35 |
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Consistent with this Nation's historical tradition of firearm regulation, or least how it's been for the last 12 years, not the 234 before that
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 15:39 |
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https://twitter.com/mjs_dc/status/1539980793963053056?s=21&t=nQ8vv9rwyFKvtjoSkeCeFw
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# ? Jun 23, 2022 15:42 |
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Why bother having any laws at all if people are just going to break them anyway
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By that standard why have laws against robbery and murder efb
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