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Kwyndig posted:You're drat right it is, both characters have to go through all the same content EXCEPT for whatever 8-man Savage is currently out. That's basically double the work with no payoff. One reason I can think of is because lalafels also don't really have a place in a lot of nightclub venues. So some people who play lalas, have their catgirl/lizard/bun alt for clubbing. If you go into any nightclub, 70% of the players will be female buns/lizards/cats. 25% will be male characters, and the last 5% will be female hyur/elezen/roe.
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Mordiceius posted:One reason I can think of is because lalafels also don't really have a place in a lot of nightclub venues. So some people who play lalas, have their catgirl/lizard/bun alt for clubbing. yes but https://mobile.twitter.com/skexchs/status/1270444987990360067
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The clubs I've been too there has always been a good amount of Lalas there, and usually they come as a big group. I went to one recently where the club was like space themed and they did something with the building inside so that they could build the club outside the boundaries of the inside (you have to take an "elevator" to get up there) and so it made it look like the club was in a big black space void. It was extremely cool. But anyway it was max capacity so you had to wait in line for others to leave. In line with us were a group of like 8 Lalafells in their clubbing outfits. And there were like 5 at first and then a few showed up and it was like seeing some friends meet up at a bar downtown. It was great. And then they were dancing as a group inside the club. Or there was a Lala in one that was in an all gold outfit and they were dancing with a crowd in a circle around them cheering him on.
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Hyper Inferno posted:Yeah, there's something special about the period of time when people are hitting a game blind and don't have years of documentation spelling everything out. Not necessarily from a mechanical optimization perspective, but more from a "hey, what's going on over there?" perspective. It's not just hitting a game blind since you can always do that by simply not looking up stuff for a single player game, it's the group experience of everyone playing the game also experiencing the game new. You get the same experience every expansion though? New zones with who knows what hiding in them, and new boss fights where no one knows the mechanics yet. What's the difference?
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Inzombiac posted:Also, holy poo poo I am loving how customizable the HUD is. I've never played a game that let you get this granular. One of the best things this game does is let you make your own metaphorical piano to play.
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Warmachine posted:I don't, but I've also heavily tempered my nostalgia for when things like WoW, SWTOR, and Guild Wars 2 were the new hotness by also remembering things like Warhammer Online, Wildstar, and Firefall. I'd much rather spend my time in something established that I can reasonably expect to still be here a year from now. I get my "the shine wears off quickly and I can see all the warts" rush from mobile games these days. They have so many ways to occupy your time that the feeling when I delete one after getting into it is intoxicating. Seriously, I've played some thinking "I can't wait to quit this, it's gonna be great." If I were at all inclined to spend anything other than time on those I'd consider it a serious problem.
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Control Volume posted:One of the best things this game does is let you make your own metaphorical piano to play. And then a literal one you can bust out anywhere if you’re a bard.
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SettingSun posted:I expect the game to nosedive once YoshiP leaves the project--a day I hope is far off. Part of what makes him such a good producer is that he's crazy good at developing talent and ensuring there's always someone in line for a position who is at least as good as the person they're replacing. I have no doubt he can do that for his own position as well. So, left to their own devices, I think it would take a few years of turnover within the team before you see a quality decline solely due to Yoshi P leaving. On the other hand, the loss of a rockstar producer who is also on the squeenix board of directors opens the door for the kind of executive meddling that ruins basically every squeenix product that isn't XIV, so it might not matter how good the remaining team is.
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Inzombiac posted:So, aside from fashion, is there any reason to have more than one character? This game has a massive number of options and customizable things. The downside is that they're spread across something like three or four different places and don't always have intuitive names so even peopole who have played since 2.0 will get blindsided when others say they turned off ally spell effects or something. Every time I want to turn something on or off I have to google it. Is it in the Character Options menu? Account Options menu? Which tab on there? Did I need to use a console command to change it instead?
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Clarste posted:You get the same experience every expansion though? New zones with who knows what hiding in them, and new boss fights where no one knows the mechanics yet. What's the difference? yeah this is the secret for FFXIV. every expansion is like being on the ground floor of a new MMO, because there is almost no datamining or developers spoiling what's going to happen in the story. you turn off your chat box, avoid threads/discord/twitter and just loving play that poo poo for like 4 days straight and experience it. it's the loving best.
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The sublime experience of going through a new leveling dungeon the first time in stone-cold silence until the last boss, where it wipes the party in the first mechanic and everyone goes "wtf was that lmfao"
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the absolute best communal activity you can participate in playing this game is logging on at the exact moment an odd patch goes up and ramming into the new alliance raid with 23 other headless chickens
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Kerrzhe posted:yeah this is the secret for FFXIV. every expansion is like being on the ground floor of a new MMO, because there is almost no datamining or developers spoiling what's going to happen in the story. you turn off your chat box, avoid threads/discord/twitter and just loving play that poo poo for like 4 days straight and experience it. it's the loving best. Em, I've seen a lot of datamining whenever a new patch/expansion comes out. People are just like, kind enough to spoiler that stuff/only talk about it in specific places at least.
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There is no greater joy in this MMO than enjoying day 0 patch content with everyone else. Party chat at the end of the duty is just variations of "That ruled".
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Kerrzhe posted:yeah this is the secret for FFXIV. every expansion is like being on the ground floor of a new MMO, because there is almost no datamining or developers spoiling what's going to happen in the story. you turn off your chat box, avoid threads/discord/twitter and just loving play that poo poo for like 4 days straight and experience it. it's the loving best. Oh totally. Ground floor MMOs are just that to a greater extent. There's a level of unknowing with FFXIV expansions, but there still is a level of known quantity to it. We're already familiar with the classes. We know each expansion will be 6 zones, with a dungeon every two levels, probably three trials during. There is a formula, even if the moment to moment isn't known. The pleasure of getting in on a new MMO launch is just not knowing what to expect at any point. And getting to poke around and discover. It's not for everyone, but I enjoy it.
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SettingSun posted:There is no greater joy in this MMO than enjoying day 0 patch content with everyone else. Party chat at the end of the duty is just variations of "That ruled". I had an absolute blast seeing half the raid wipe (myself very much included) in the newest alliance raid. It was especially cool when the lyrics kicked in on final boss.
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Vitamean posted:the absolute best communal activity you can participate in playing this game is logging on at the exact moment an odd patch goes up and ramming into the new alliance raid with 23 other headless chickens
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hazardousmouse posted:if you don't play the lotto you have 0 chance of getting one. if you win, you can always transfer plots later if you like a location True, but relocations still go through the lottery now. So you'd effectively have to win two plots. Housing is fun. I wasn't crazy about my spot in the Goblet, but it's grown on me and now I don't think I'd move even with a guaranteed plot.
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The Walrus posted:anyone having issues? I get this on login and now got a technical error trying to log a support ticket Do you have the Steam version? I've got the same error, and I was thinking it had to do with the launch of the Steam Summer Sale slamming their servers. I could be wrong, though, if you're also having a problem submitting a ticket.
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If you're on steam, yeah, this is getting reported elsewhere. Something to do with messing with their setup as of the just-starting sale.
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Em, I've seen a lot of datamining whenever a new patch/expansion comes out. People are just like, kind enough to spoiler that stuff/only talk about it in specific places at least. yeah, there USED to be almost no datamining, but it's getting more prevalent now especially with the game only gaining popularity. but there's no public test server, and the devs (and community for the most part!) go out of their way to hide spoilers. it's very easy to go into an expansion completely blind, and it's wonderful.
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SettingSun posted:There is no greater joy in this MMO than enjoying day 0 patch content with everyone else. Party chat at the end of the duty is just variations of "That ruled". My favorite moment of all time is doing e5n day 1 and the entire group wiping to the very first mechanic and everyone just busting out laughing. Day 1 content rules.
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Kerrzhe posted:yeah, there USED to be almost no datamining, but it's getting more prevalent now especially with the game only gaining popularity. but there's no public test server, and the devs (and community for the most part!) go out of their way to hide spoilers. it's very easy to go into an expansion completely blind, and it's wonderful. Oh yeah, those aspects are 100% true.
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Datamining is done mere hours before the content goes live, when it's being pushed to the client. Doesn't leave a lot of time for that info to get disseminated to many except those in the know.
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I used to always scrape the music from patches but I stopped after running headfirst into the ruby weapon second phase theme
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Theris posted:On the other hand, the loss of a rockstar producer who is also on the squeenix board of directors opens the door for the kind of executive meddling that ruins basically every squeenix product that isn't XIV, so it might not matter how good the remaining team is. I think this is the bigger factor for exactly the reason you state. Yoshida is, at this point, a living legend. If they try and mess with his work, they're only punching themselves in the balls. Though I don't think things would be an immediate downhill spiral out of malice/greed. The whole "living" part of that would probably make Square shy away from doing anything that might spark vocal opposition from a retired YoshiP, since that would be just as terrible as having him inside the organization and opposed to you, with the added bad optics of "wow the dude retired and you immediately pissed on his legacy." I think slow decay via incompetence 5-10 years after he leaves is the more likely scenario for how FFXIV dies. Consummate Professional posted:I had an absolute blast seeing half the raid wipe (myself very much included) in the newest alliance raid. It was especially cool when the lyrics kicked in on final boss. I lost my drat mind and it instantly became my favorite song in the game. Yes, better than your favorite and whatever the community canonized as the best. It's perfect in every way. edit: Actually, is there a way to toggle instance cutscenes on and off via text command? I'm 100% read to make a macro to turn cutscenes back on after Azemya just so that the music synchs properly with the boss intro because yeah, worth. Warmachine fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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I just want to say the The Sorrow of Werlyt was some of my favorite patch content, I love giant robots and giant robot drama and the return of ARR Badass Gaius and the unlocks for extreme mode tickled my fancy quite a bit even if I haven't actually done the Extreme fights yet.
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Kwyndig posted:I just want to say the The Sorrow of Werlyt was some of my favorite patch content, I love giant robots and giant robot drama and the return of ARR Badass Gaius and the unlocks for extreme mode tickled my fancy quite a bit even if I haven't actually done the Extreme fights yet. I want more Gundams, yes. This too.
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Truga posted:that's just respecting the lalafell lore Most of the Lalafell you meet are horny, yes.
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Erg posted:Is yoshida not already taking a step back from ff14? I thought he was producing 16 as well, and I have to imagine that has taken away at least some of the time he’d normally dedicate It's not like he's posted a strict schedule he adheres to or anything, but he definitely has split his time between the two games. The difference is that FFXVI work will eventually end and unless he takes a job making FFXVII after he'll be back on FFXIV full time.
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Consummate Professional posted:As long as Yoshi-P keeps wearing like 20 rings I have full confidence he can carry the Final Fantasy franchise to new heights. He knows very well that the real world doesn't have gear slots and thus can equip as much as he wants. Thus his power grows.
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I know we all love watching new people as they play, found an amazing artist going through HW right now https://twitter.com/juvijourneys/status/1539707706411429888?t=MChWrB3CxZngAWVWPWPRpw&s=19
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