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Someone else saying the same as Rentoul, the result was not much of a cause for celebration for Labour. https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1540242921722707968?s=20
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Zalakwe posted:Starting to wonder if the ray of political light we're looking for is nothing to do with parties at all but the rivival of the unions. Always has been
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Rustybear posted:i fuckin hate keith but if your immediate response to labour gaining a seat at a byelection for the first time in ten years and by double digits points is 'this is bad for keir' then you might have other motives than simply commenting on the situation It's not being gloomy for the sake of it: the swing was due much more to Tory voters staying at home than it was people being enthused to come out and vote Labour. The implication is: that with a new leader and a new approach, the Tories can bounce straight back at the next election, as Labour's weak lead evaporates once again.
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https://twitter.com/AunMohammed90/status/1540102679061565441 People are saying this woman is Carrie's mum. lmao. My facial recognition circuits got a bit fried with the illness, but this is she:  Be hilarious if true. lol
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peanut- posted:Someone else saying the same as Rentoul, the result was not much of a cause for celebration for Labour. Not sure how much this comparison applies. Milliband lost in 2015, yes. However the main reasons for this loss were the complete collapse of the Labour vote/rise of the SNP in Scotland and the collapse of the Lib Dems being more beneficial to the Conservatives than Labour.
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Qt audience members are some of the most brainwormed people I've ever seen, I swear to christ
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Qt audience members are some of the most brainwormed people I've ever seen, I swear to christ I don't want to sound racist, but they all look and sound alike to me.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Qt audience members are some of the most brainwormed people I've ever seen, I swear to christ There was a guy at our CLP just after the last General who stood up and read a speech off a page of A4 he'd printed, yammering on about how Corbynism was dead and a return to the values of Tony Blair was the only sane choice and it was just like... a spool of unbroken words words words. This is the kind of person who goes on QT, the people who have OPINIONS that MUST BE SHARED. Doesn't matter if they're true, doesn't matter if anyone listens, just vomiting them out into the aether for no other reason than it's Their Right. Unhinged and pointless
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Jun 24, 2022 13:04
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Pff, I gave my unhinged speech at the CLP entirely off the cuff.
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BBC - Inform, Educate, Entertain has become Bad-form, Dictate, Enterta Bad Zone.
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Pistol_Pete posted:It's not being gloomy for the sake of it: the swing was due much more to Tory voters staying at home than it was people being enthused to come out and vote Labour. The implication is: that with a new leader and a new approach, the Tories can bounce straight back at the next election, as Labour's weak lead evaporates once again. Remember: the "Red Wall" falling to begin with was relatively few direct Labour->Tory switches, but Boris basically keeping all May's 2017 vote while Labour bled votes all over the place (Lib Dems, "Brexit Party", abstainers etc).
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OwlFancier posted:Also re: this byelection while the tories are probably all nonces I don't think you can count on all of them going to prison for it before the next GE so I do not know if the strategy is especially repeatable. 
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https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/1540311832035991552?s=20&t=kDGwwHmMY95ZSrFeHqXeOg did i nap through 9 world wars?
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peanut- posted:https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/1540311832035991552?s=20&t=kDGwwHmMY95ZSrFeHqXeOg Those were The Sekret Wars You were never meant to know about them
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I have an important question about the strikes/picket lines. Are the workers singing union songs? Do the British unions have different union songs?
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There's a bunch of different songs, Chumbawumba of Tubthumping fame did an album of protest songs including my favourite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA4FTIz2Zrw
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I mostly know the american ones, which are good if sometimes dated, though for a rail strike they are probably fairly apt.
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OwlFancier posted:Pff, I gave my unhinged speech at the CLP entirely off the cuff. Eh, guy's a dumbass but not everyone's a good public speaker when they speak off the cuff. Notes can be very helpful to keep you on track, though there's a way of using them while also speaking engagingly as if they weren't there. I find it very difficult to speak with none, my mind just races and my thoughts end up garbled and I sound pretty incoherent when I try, and that's even with a decent amount of experience. If I use notes however I usually get a decent response. Except on zoom, gently caress zoom. Conference talks over the internet are the devil's work. Genuinely wondering if I have undiagnosed ADHD given my working style tbh.
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Well yes that's part of why it was unhinged. I didn't actually know speeches were happening and only gave one cos some blairite wanker did and nobody on the cool side wanted to.
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peanut- posted:https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/1540311832035991552?s=20&t=kDGwwHmMY95ZSrFeHqXeOg How the gently caress is "History tells us how useless by election results are as an indication of absolutely anything at all" the SECOND most deranged thing in that tweet
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Failed Imagineer posted:Has anyone checked wet wipe island for twisto I am chosing to imagine he got that tour business off the ground and is currently too busy to post and nobody can convince me otherwise. 
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Worth noting that the Wakefield result for Labour % was lower than what they got in 2017.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Worth noting that the Wakefield result for Labour % was lower than what they got in 2017. The party have tweeted that it's their best result there since 2001 and Labour MPs are saying the same on TV. 2017 is being written out of history, it can't ever be acknowledged.
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peanut- posted:The party have tweeted that it's their best result there since 2001 and Labour MPs are saying the same on TV. 2017 is being written out of history, it can't ever be acknowledged. Lmao what a bunch of absolute clowns.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Worth noting that the Wakefield result for Labour % was lower than what they got in 2017.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Lmao what a bunch of absolute clowns.    just in case anyone needs these e; also labour got 4000 votes less than mary creagh's personal worst attempt in 2015 (although by voteshare her worst campaign was 2010). 13k against the legacy of a convicted paedophile in an election where the lib dems lost their deposit is dreadful and you have to go back to 2001 to even come second with that turnout. Spangly A fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Jun 24, 2022 |
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peanut- posted:The party have tweeted that it's their best result there since 2001 and Labour MPs are saying the same on TV. 2017 is being written out of history, it can't ever be acknowledged. i went to check this because it couldn't be true or is some % swing versus total votes cherry picking thing and nope!!!!! worth noting 2017 remains the biggest victory since 1997 (and every election previous to that) what possible watershed event could have happened to cause such a permanent depression
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Rustybear posted:i went to check this because it couldn't be true or is some % swing versus total votes cherry picking thing and nope!!!!! Largest majority (in %) since 2001. So, yeah, cherry-picking but technically correct.
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holy poo poo the US supreme court only went and did it the absolute madlads but no, this is genuinely a really loving awful thing and the existence of the USA is one of the few things that makes me glad to have been born on tiny hell island rather than in giant hell superpower
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Same, really. Could always be worse, could always have been american. I posted the same thought in the LGBT thread but I just don't get how the US can work with half their electorate just 100% dedicated to making everything worse in every way. It's like the brexit brigade turned up to 11.
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