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crispix posted:luv 2 break international law The strong PM we need to handle what no one else will* *Rampant crimes and sex scandals* WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Jun 27, 2022 |
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Lungboy posted:https://twitter.com/schwitzyoo/status/1540992801055334402?s=21&t=BXECc5agHxRKhkq0Cr0BBQ What really gets me about this is that it’s just saying “a serious government doesn’t side with workers” and as much mockery as the Tories got for their brief “we’re the real party of the workers” they did t even let the mask slip off that much. Saying nothing would be better, and yet the stance is… this.
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Jun 27, 2022 02:59
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You have to understand that david lammy can just vote to pay himself more money and then it happens, he doesn't understand that people with real jobs can't do that, poor lad.
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Jun 27, 2022 03:20
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The one that really gets me is tech bros whos reply to that is that people should get a better job where it is acceptable to negotiate your wage. Even if you put aside for a second how broadly poo poo a thing that is to say, that job still exists. It still has to be done. Someone has to be getting hosed over by it.
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Jun 27, 2022 03:37
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A serious party uses an aging populace to enslave workers. Obviously its working for the Tories.
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Jun 27, 2022 03:41
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It continues to be very grating when people just espouse their personal preferences, and then say "yes but I just have to say this you see because it's what the public wants" even when it measurably is not what the public wants. It must be very nice to go around externalizing all your bad takes onto the mysterious public like you're in a very weird dom/sub relationship with the made up median voter in your head. Centrists invented plural systems change my mind.
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Jun 27, 2022 03:56
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If only there’s been a way to guarantee we’d operate under the same rules as the countries in the EU.
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Jun 27, 2022 07:24
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It’s an extension of the same WTO-illegal tariffs the EU and US already apply. Brexit is dumb and all but that doesn’t mean you have to advocate for Britain bankrupting it’s strategic heavy industry out of psychotic purist commitment to free trade.
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Jun 27, 2022 08:01
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peanut- posted:It’s an extension of the same WTO-illegal tariffs the EU and US already apply. Brexit is dumb and all but that doesn’t mean you have to advocate for Britain bankrupting it’s strategic heavy industry out of psychotic purist commitment to free trade. Yeah, it's just harder for small nations to get away with it, unlike the EU and US, which is lol brexit. But still, don't really disagree with Boris on this one, free trade is not an automatic good.
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Jun 27, 2022 08:11
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I think the point is more that, my brother in christ, you put the UK under WTO rules.
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Jun 27, 2022 08:14
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So BJ has made his plan pretty clear at G7, which is to put absolutely everything he has on being an absolute pro Ukraine hawk. It means he can pretend to be Churchill at international conferences, hoping it will distract the world and the British public from the fash and scandals at home, and then if Ukraine wins then he can bask in reflected glory, riding that wave to the next election, and if Russia wins then he can resign and call supporting Ukraine his great misjudgement, securing his status as a martyr to freedom and democracy.
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Jun 27, 2022 08:29
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https://twitter.com/SloaneFragment/status/1541180975299923968 I must admit, I joined in on the mass reporting of said profile image, resulting in: https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1541330262604259328 He's no doubt going to be attempting to push the boundaries, and no doubt will break them at some stage over this, so please keep your report fingers ready for when he does.
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Jun 27, 2022 09:25
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What's funny is I think that's probably just because he has a swastika in his avatar lol.
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Jun 27, 2022 09:30
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This is real and in The Times.
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Jun 27, 2022 09:53
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I was pretty certain Fox will have said something along the lines of "the problem with the left is they call everyone fascists," but I could only read one and a half interviews with him before giving up. Even aside from his terrible, terrible opinions, the man is just so relentlessly, rabidly angry that it's utterly exhausting to read. This was the closest I got Laurence Fox posted:It’s so easy to just throw your charge of racism at everybody and it’s starting to get boring now
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Jun 27, 2022 10:01
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His Divine Shadow posted:Yeah, it's just harder for small nations to get away with it, unlike the EU and US, which is lol brexit. But still, don't really disagree with Boris on this one, free trade is not an automatic good. Maybe the best course of action for the world in general would be for Britain to go down swinging about what a clown car the whole thing is.
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Jun 27, 2022 10:04
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Laurence Fox: it’s starting to get boring now
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Jun 27, 2022 10:05
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Lawrence Fox is what Dennis Reynolds would be if he was insufferably English and boring.
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Jun 27, 2022 10:09
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Niric posted:I was pretty certain Fox will have said something along the lines of "the problem with the left is they call everyone fascists," but I could only read one and a half interviews with him before giving up. Even aside from his terrible, terrible opinions, the man is just so relentlessly, rabidly angry that it's utterly exhausting to read. It would be funny if it wasn't so tiring that these weirdos imagine that everyone in the world is living in constant terror of being called racist when I in fact do not worry about that at all, because I don't think it has ever happened and I am sure I would survive if it did. If everyone is calling you a twat maybe that's a you problem.
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Jun 27, 2022 10:09
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Just ~not failing country~ things
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Jun 27, 2022 10:16
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sinky posted:Just ~not failing country~ things Would that make her a scab
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Jun 27, 2022 10:27
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Not sure that China or the US qualify as 'small nations' in that steel tariff spat. It remains the case since Doha that if you are principally worried about the global south, what the global south would most like is for Europe to lower its agricultural protections. The real sticking point, I would say, is that the UK is not really a 'steel economy'; steel occupies a much smaller share of output and employment than other comparable European nations, and the postwar UK has a long and glorious history in promising to protect these industries at the negotiating table right up until the moment it prioritizes something else. And this administration's promises are hardly trustworthy, to say the least... https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1539486731510194178 One of the weirder gaps in UK collective self-narrative is how "bin-men" resonates but "sick man of Europe"/"If I were a younger man, I would emigrate" doesn't seem to (save as a subordinated confabulation with said bin-men, when arguably the former was a symptom of a wider industrial paralysis that the UK political class struggled to navigate no matter which party or party faction was in power). In fact the UK has never been very good at navigating its own domestic political paralyses; many Western democracies neoliberalized, but the UK's political experience of doing so was particularly confrontational and traumatic. In the meanwhile, a take: quote:This can also be put in a different way. Brexit isn’t automatically good territory for the Tories. No doubt it’s true that Johnson believes it would help him to pull Labour on to it, hence they resist going there, but that doesn’t mean he is right. It is not 2016 or even 2019 anymore. Of course the hard core of Tory leave voters will be galvanized by Brexit coming up the agenda again, but opinion polls show a clear and consistent lead for the view that Brexit was a mistake over those thinking it was right, and that many voters, including at least some who voted leave in 2016 and/or Tory in 2019, are now disillusioned by the way it has been done by Johnson including, as the NIPB amply shows, the emptiness of his promise to ‘get Brexit done’. It’s notable that yesterday, the anniversary of the referendum, two leave-voting seats rejected the Tories in by-elections. That may be more about Johnson than Brexit, but either way it is very far from clear that Labour will be monstered if they hold his Brexit record up for scrutiny. But to do that they need to a have a good and suitably crafted answer to the inevitable question: what would you do differently? The whole blogpost is interesting (and is from where I found that O'Brien twitter thread). I don't know that I agree.
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Jun 27, 2022 10:28
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I think the only reliable prediction to date is that Johnson will behave like a feral polecat when cornered (also maybe when just drunk), and so turning the entire country into a Shinyo motorboat against the WTO is probably the funniest and most fitting possible outcome of that.
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Jun 27, 2022 10:40
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Guavanaut posted:Surely that's more a sign that the WTO is just imperialism with extra steps than that banding together in big whites-only clubs to ignore selective parts of it that other people can't is a justified thing. I salute you who are about to die.
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Jun 27, 2022 11:01
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sinky posted:Just ~not failing country~ things Surely, day one: Mlud, I've been denied proper representation, please throw out this trial? Mlud? Mlud!!
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Jun 27, 2022 11:12
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Step 1: Bring a private prosecution against the judge for perverting the course of justice by allowing someone credibly charged with perverting the course of justice to act as a representative in their court.
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Jun 27, 2022 11:16
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Niric posted:This was the closest I got What I hope for Fox is that he has a moment of clarity and that for even one second he realises that his career and marriage are over not because the woke left cancelled him, but because he was average at best in both arenas, and his time in the sun is rightly over. Except he never will because he's a narcissist who's absolutely in love with huffing his own farts.
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Jun 27, 2022 11:42
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https://twitter.com/BBCNewsNI/status/1541172738618019840 Break one international law, why not break them all I guess?....
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Jun 27, 2022 11:46
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Bobby Deluxe posted:What I hope for Fox is that he has a
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Jun 27, 2022 11:49
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/BBCNewsNI/status/1541172738618019840 I... Yeah I guess a world with an independent Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and England, none of whom were EU members, would be able to trade under whatever agreements they wanted. It's fun to play imagination.
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Jun 27, 2022 11:56
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fuctifino posted:This is real and in The Times. Lib Dem resurgence continues, taking over the newspapers now. Winning Here!
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Jun 27, 2022 12:05
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ronya posted:One of the weirder gaps in UK collective self-narrative is how "bin-men" resonates but "sick man of Europe"/"If I were a younger man, I would emigrate" doesn't seem to (save as a subordinated confabulation with said bin-men perhaps the younger men, who are now older men, did indeed emigrate? hard to get excited about the international law stuff, it's being played up becasue it fits the 'johnson the criminal narrative' which is fine whatever i don't care. trying to draw a comparison between countries and international law and individual citizens and criminal law is a duff move not dissimilar to national credit card type stuff; they're not the same and they never will be. if we don't like a particular 'international law' then we can, will and should negotiate a different one
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Jun 27, 2022 12:33
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fuctifino posted:This is real and in The Times. That seems weird, because that’s not what I see: 
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Jun 27, 2022 12:34
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Jeherrin posted:That seems weird, because that’s not what I see: Let's play British Media, where everything is made up and the numbers don't matter!
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Jun 27, 2022 12:37
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The fun game for grown-ups and children  Rustybear posted:trying to draw a comparison between countries and international law and individual citizens and criminal law is a duff move not dissimilar to national credit card type stuff; they're not the same and they never will be. if we don't like a particular 'international law' then we can, will and should negotiate a different one
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Jun 27, 2022 12:43
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Guavanaut posted:https://twitter.com/KRafteryauthor/status/1541310223331299329 Pssst. I heard a rumour that Ireland is already an independent nation. And that they are EU members. And that they don't want to trade under non-EU Protocols.
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Jun 27, 2022 12:44
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Yes but they seem to want a 32 County non-EU Ireland and an independent Scotland and Wales that are also not in the EU and then they all make trade deals with one another to accommodate England. I'm not sure that there's anyone else in the world that wants that particular series of events.
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Jun 27, 2022 12:47
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Jeherrin posted:That seems weird, because that’s not what I see: The guy responsible for it was in the replies. Fsr one specific version of that article had the all-population numbers on that chart instead of the Tory voted numbers. The bar lengths are correct for Tories. It should be fixed now.
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Jun 27, 2022 12:51
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Guavanaut posted:Yes but they seem to want a 32 County non-EU Ireland and an independent Scotland and Wales that are also not in the EU and then they all make trade deals with one another to accommodate England. Northern Ireland leaves the UK and the republic joins it and becomes Large Ulster.
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Jun 27, 2022 13:01
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A large ulster sounds like something on a medieval peasants butt that needs to be lanced.
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